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Dusty
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States3359 Posts
November 02 2012 03:25 GMT
#3481
On November 02 2012 12:18 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 11:54 Dusty wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/11/11-1-pbe-update.html

yaaaaay more pbe stuff

EDIT: MORE PBE STUFF http://www.reignofgaming.net/news/22228-unoffical-pbe-patch-notes-for-11-2-2012-zed

Kat nerfs (:D)!

2ND EDIT: SALCE MAYBE OFF CURSE? http://i.imgur.com/Otmpc.jpg

What did he type to Pobelter? Lonestar sub?


Pobelter resigned cause since he's in high-school he couldn't live at Curse house
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 02 2012 03:25 GMT
#3482
On November 02 2012 11:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 11:06 Kouda wrote:
On November 02 2012 11:00 SoulSever wrote:
On November 02 2012 09:16 Tooplark wrote:
On November 02 2012 06:23 Alaric wrote:
On November 02 2012 06:16 Tooplark wrote:
Trundle's pretty good at trades, has an ok source of sustain, and is fantastic at assisting ganks.

Well, he has to blow pillar, and probably contaminate, to be able to force his opponent to trades, which ends up costly in mana (and pillar a big cd unless you max it early), while he has no ranged harass, poke, nor ability to answer to those. Aren't, say, champs like Udyr, Olaf, Jayce and Nidalee tailored toward crushing him?

Oh, I agree that Trundle's a mediocre pick top, but he has those as his strengths.


WoDx trundle top also outplayed a Nidalee that made no glaring errors. It was impressive. The man is miles ahead of any other top laners NA imo


Yeah I get that feeling too, WoDx just gives me the insane vibes.

What's why I think it's a bummer he doesn't want to join another team. So much talent all going into soloq. Can't blame him though. Way less stress and I'm sure he makes good money streaming.

Edit: Polbelter hasn't been part of Curse since they moved into the gaming house. He plays AP Carry for Meat Playground.
Edit 2: Skills of the new champion Zed
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/zed-master-shadows-revealed
Sounds a lot like a top lane kit...

Since when is Wings this amazing top lane destroyer? I've watched his stream plenty and he is definitely good, but I don't think there is a massive separation between him and other NA top laners.

I've seen him in a few scrims and such and he did fine, but once again nothing special.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 02 2012 03:27 GMT
#3483
On November 02 2012 11:56 Sufficiency wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 11:54 Dusty wrote:
http://www.surrenderat20.net/2012/11/11-1-pbe-update.html

yaaaaay more pbe stuff



This:

+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Enough said.

Add me if you wanna test stuff. SN = ancillary


No romance of the three kingdoms skins yet

I WANT LU BU JARVAN. I've actually been playing xin and jarvan lately just so I don't suck with them when those skins come out lol.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
onlywonderboy
Profile Joined August 2012
United States23745 Posts
November 02 2012 03:29 GMT
#3484
On November 02 2012 12:25 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 11:16 onlywonderboy wrote:
On November 02 2012 11:06 Kouda wrote:
On November 02 2012 11:00 SoulSever wrote:
On November 02 2012 09:16 Tooplark wrote:
On November 02 2012 06:23 Alaric wrote:
On November 02 2012 06:16 Tooplark wrote:
Trundle's pretty good at trades, has an ok source of sustain, and is fantastic at assisting ganks.

Well, he has to blow pillar, and probably contaminate, to be able to force his opponent to trades, which ends up costly in mana (and pillar a big cd unless you max it early), while he has no ranged harass, poke, nor ability to answer to those. Aren't, say, champs like Udyr, Olaf, Jayce and Nidalee tailored toward crushing him?

Oh, I agree that Trundle's a mediocre pick top, but he has those as his strengths.


WoDx trundle top also outplayed a Nidalee that made no glaring errors. It was impressive. The man is miles ahead of any other top laners NA imo


Yeah I get that feeling too, WoDx just gives me the insane vibes.

What's why I think it's a bummer he doesn't want to join another team. So much talent all going into soloq. Can't blame him though. Way less stress and I'm sure he makes good money streaming.

Edit: Polbelter hasn't been part of Curse since they moved into the gaming house. He plays AP Carry for Meat Playground.
Edit 2: Skills of the new champion Zed
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/news/zed-master-shadows-revealed
Sounds a lot like a top lane kit...

Since when is Wings this amazing top lane destroyer? I've watched his stream plenty and he is definitely good, but I don't think there is a massive separation between him and other NA top laners.

I've seen him in a few scrims and such and he did fine, but once again nothing special.

I've been under the impression most people thought he was really good. Maybe not a massive separation between him and other NA top laners, but I think he could be one of the best NA top laners.
RIP Ryan Davis / TL or Die / @onlywonderboy
Navi
Profile Joined November 2009
5286 Posts
November 02 2012 03:31 GMT
#3485
Wings is not by any means a dominant toplaner. He is good, but the state of NA toplaners in general is not that strong especially compared to other regions.
Hey! Listen!
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
November 02 2012 03:34 GMT
#3486
http://na.leagueoflegends.com/board/showthread.php?t=2751910

Seems like they fixed some skillshot logic which meant that all skillshot ranges had to be reduced by 50 in order to keep things the way they were. So all the random skillshot range nerfs probably mean nothing,

Some additional context on this: We found out that previously the math was flawed in that a champion's model size was taken into consideration only if the missile was hitting from the side, but not from the front. This means that previously if you shoot a skillshot right at an enemy, it would only hit when it hit the center of the target; but if you aim it at target's side it would hit if it touches the target's bounding circle. This was pretty inconsistent.

We changed it so that it will always use the target's bounding circle, but this means the potential reach of a skillshot is extended, and we have to slightly reduce the range of skillshots.
Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 03:40:51
November 02 2012 03:38 GMT
#3487
Whoa that's an interesting kit on Zed.

Passive: That's just asking for 21/9 or 21/x/x. 14% bonus damage to people below 40% makes for some good tower diving.

Q. Kennen shuriken's with pass-through >.>. I don't like this.

Rest of the kit I'm alright with, it'll take some play to feel how it works
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 03:55:42
November 02 2012 03:41 GMT
#3488
After trying him briefly, I feel that there is no point to play Zed when you can just play Talon as far as the kit is concerned. Talon has a much better gap closer and his only skillshot is a cone (pretty much fool proof). I have to look at his ratio more carefully though.

nvm, I think I misunderstood.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
November 02 2012 03:42 GMT
#3489
Are the % bonus damage additive?
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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
November 02 2012 03:42 GMT
#3490
Is there an event soon in Texas?
twitch.tv/cratonz
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 02 2012 03:46 GMT
#3491
On November 02 2012 12:42 ShaLLoW[baY] wrote:
Are the % bonus damage additive?


Executioner lets you do 6% more damage. 6% extra of 8% is minimal. It's like asking whether or not Havec stacks with Executioner: no one knows because no one cares.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
petered
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1817 Posts
November 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#3492
On November 02 2012 12:41 Sufficiency wrote:
After trying him briefly, I feel that there is no point to play Zed when you can just play Talon as far as the kit is concerned. Talon has a much better gap closer and his only skillshot is a cone (pretty much fool proof). I have to look at his ratio more carefully though.

Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 12:38 Lmui wrote:
Whoa that's an interesting kit on Zed.

Passive: That's just asking for 21/9 or 21/x/x. 14% bonus damage to people below 40% makes for some good tower diving.

Q. Kennen shuriken's with pass-through >.>. I don't like this.

Rest of the kit I'm alright with, it'll take some play to feel how it works


8% * 1.06 = 8.48%.


His kit doesn't seem to resemble talon's at all, so I don't see why talon overlaps with the new champ. Maybe their roles are similar but everyone has a preference for certain skill sets over others so I don't see why there would be no point to playing him.
This, my friends, is the power of the Shikyo Memorial for QQ therapy thread. We make the world a better place, one chainsaw massacre prevention at a time.
Cloud9157
Profile Joined December 2010
United States2968 Posts
November 02 2012 03:49 GMT
#3493
Pssh, nerfing Katarina... Noobs qq too much when they don't realize that Viktor op vs her.
"Are you absolutely sure that armor only affects the health portion of a protoss army??? That doesn't sound right to me. source?" -Some idiot
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 02 2012 03:51 GMT
#3494
On November 02 2012 12:42 Craton wrote:
Is there an event soon in Texas?

Two, MLG Dallas 18 hours and the Lonestar Clash, November 10th.
Koenig99
Profile Joined July 2011
Canada904 Posts
November 02 2012 03:52 GMT
#3495
Anyone know if the first round games tomorrow at MLG Dallas Bo1 or Bo3?
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
November 02 2012 03:54 GMT
#3496
On November 02 2012 12:49 petered wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 02 2012 12:41 Sufficiency wrote:
After trying him briefly, I feel that there is no point to play Zed when you can just play Talon as far as the kit is concerned. Talon has a much better gap closer and his only skillshot is a cone (pretty much fool proof). I have to look at his ratio more carefully though.

On November 02 2012 12:38 Lmui wrote:
Whoa that's an interesting kit on Zed.

Passive: That's just asking for 21/9 or 21/x/x. 14% bonus damage to people below 40% makes for some good tower diving.

Q. Kennen shuriken's with pass-through >.>. I don't like this.

Rest of the kit I'm alright with, it'll take some play to feel how it works


8% * 1.06 = 8.48%.


His kit doesn't seem to resemble talon's at all, so I don't see why talon overlaps with the new champ. Maybe their roles are similar but everyone has a preference for certain skill sets over others so I don't see why there would be no point to playing him.


It's just that his gap closer is really weak. His R is targeted, but the range is very short (Syndra R level kind of short).

His role is definitely similar to Talon. His R provides damage amplification on a single target; his Q does reduced damage for multiple targets (like Caitlyn's Q), and his E is kind of like Katarina's W.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Irave
Profile Joined October 2010
United States9965 Posts
November 02 2012 03:55 GMT
#3497
Every set at the tournament will be best of three.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
November 02 2012 04:01 GMT
#3498
Weird Varus, Soraka, and Nidalee nerfs lol
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
November 02 2012 04:02 GMT
#3499
On November 02 2012 12:41 Sufficiency wrote:
After trying him briefly, I feel that there is no point to play Zed when you can just play Talon as far as the kit is concerned. Talon has a much better gap closer and his only skillshot is a cone (pretty much fool proof). I have to look at his ratio more carefully though.

nvm, I think I misunderstood.

Na, cones are the worst kind of skills to smartcast (along with Ashe/Ezreal/Draven's ult obv.), they tend to fire backwards sometimes, really frustrating. :< Especially when you want to cast your combo in a short time span.

Also Talon can't jungle as well as him I believe, and you can beat him by running him oom and his poke (W) is on a much longer cooldown than Zed's (Q, or WE if you will but that one's long).
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-11-02 04:04:29
November 02 2012 04:04 GMT
#3500
Double damage on all Zed's abilities sounds nice if he can pull it off with his ult. Though syndra was a champ that sounds nice except it's just needlessly hard to pull anything off with her. Lack of hard CC on a melee sounds bad though.
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