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On October 31 2012 22:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
is it just me or is the bot lane brush closer to blue side bugged in terms of vision. i swear i could have a ward inside and people would still pop in and out of vision for a millisec. TELL ME IT'S NOT JUST ME PLEASE
Yeah, pretty sure a ward at one of the ends of the bush won't give you vision of the entire bush.
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Korea (South)11232 Posts
On October 31 2012 22:39 thenexusp wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 22:30 nyxnyxnyx wrote:
is it just me or is the bot lane brush closer to blue side bugged in terms of vision. i swear i could have a ward inside and people would still pop in and out of vision for a millisec. TELL ME IT'S NOT JUST ME PLEASE Yeah, pretty sure a ward at one of the ends of the bush won't give you vision of the entire bush.
thats correct
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On October 31 2012 21:36 Sufficiency wrote:
I understand the basic principle, but I probably would not push as lvl 5 Morde against morg and lee sin jungle when I do not have Flash nor ward coverage. Maybe I am overly cautious, or he saw (or he thought he saw) something I didn't see, or he just didn't care.
Against a Morgana, you can almost freely push in the first levels, the cage is near from impossible to catch you since you push way harder than her, and with that, it's only you against lee sin for the most part. Only thing you have to worry, in my opinion, is Morg's ult, and maybe flash-cage if you are not well positionned.
Edit : And if you take a little advantage in the earlier levels, it becomes way easier to push after that.
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If my team has a Morde mid I always pick a good counterganking jungler (Skarner is amazing for this). I tell him to be careful when I'm on red/golems, especially since a lot of Lee ganks mid come around that time, but otherwise I'm always ready to zoom in at 10000 MS and perma slow to turn it into a 2v2 that greatly favors us.
After the first jungle clear we each buy a ward, and he can freely push 24/7.
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United States23745 Posts
I knew I could come here to get some level headed responses to the Froggen incident. All the people that say they can never root for CLG.EU again are crazy. Froggen has one outburst and people are done? Guess everyone should hate TSM for Dyrus soloq rage. The double standards are crazy.
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Netherlands21351 Posts
On October 31 2012 23:04 onlywonderboy wrote:
I knew I could come here to get some level headed responses to the Froggen incident. All the people that say they can never root for CLG.EU again are crazy. Froggen has one outburst and people are done? Guess everyone should hate TSM for Dyrus soloq rage. The double standards are crazy.
Oo what incident?
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
Cheer for maknoon and the man toss, never deal with this kind of drama :p.
On a more important note WE JUST PICKED TF SHUT UP AND WATCH
http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia
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guess people are upset because froggen used to be this mistyrious guy who buys random items on anivia and kills everyone.
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Oh shit, we got TF mirror-matches.
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United States23745 Posts
I like how how his response is heavily downvoted because he told everyone his honest opinion on the situation instead of just apologizing. I guess my point is, if people stopped rooting for teams solely based on one player raging in soloq, they wouldn't have any teams to root for.
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On October 31 2012 23:10 Fusilero wrote:Cheer for maknoon and the man toss, never deal with this kind of drama :p. On a more important note WE JUST PICKED TF SHUT UP AND WATCH http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia
Was watching the whole time. Still very disappointed in WE. It feels that they have not grown at all after replacing their support and jungle. They're playing a bit better but every game where they've been behind they have been unable to make any plans to come back from. The closest thing they had of a comeback was Misaya catching Zzitai (who historically is the no. 1 thrower on his team) in Game 1.
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On October 31 2012 23:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
I like how how his response is heavily downvoted because he told everyone his honest opinion on the situation instead of just apologizing. I guess my point is, if people stopped rooting for teams solely based on one player raging in soloq, they wouldn't have any teams to root for.
Because redditors are retarded and don't understand what the downvote button actually means.
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United Kingdom50293 Posts
On October 31 2012 23:14 Kavas wrote:Was watching the whole time. Still very disappointed in WE. It feels that they have not grown at all after replacing their support and jungle. They're playing a bit better but every game where they've been behind they have been unable to make any plans to come back from. The closest thing they had of a comeback was Misaya catching Zzitai (who historically is the no. 1 thrower on his team) in Game 1.
Fzzf is a great blitzcrank but I wish he got a little bit better on other supports he hasn't impressed me too much off blitz and Chinese junglers suck there's not much WE can do about it :p.
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On October 31 2012 23:13 onlywonderboy wrote:
I like how how his response is heavily downvoted because he told everyone his honest opinion on the situation instead of just apologizing. I guess my point is, if people stopped rooting for teams solely based on one player raging in soloq, they wouldn't have any teams to root for.
I think you'll find that most people do in fact root for individual players in teams rather than the teams themselves. A subtle difference but a big difference nonetheless.
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Lets have a sample of one game to determine whos an ass and who is not. Oh wow he was BM against someone else. Heres a little secret, every progamer is BM at times. 1 game does not make a good sample to determine who is an ass and who is not.
For the sake of argument lets say he is a BM player, that would put him on par in BMness with:
Any TSM, CLGna and Korean player....
so
what
Wish people would stop wasting their lives on finding flaws in others
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Blind pick is so stupid in a tournament setting. I actually cant believe riot hasn't fixed for sides and first pick to be able to be decided beforehand and independently
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On October 31 2012 23:16 Fusilero wrote:Show nested quote +On October 31 2012 23:14 Kavas wrote:On October 31 2012 23:10 Fusilero wrote:Cheer for maknoon and the man toss, never deal with this kind of drama :p. On a more important note WE JUST PICKED TF SHUT UP AND WATCH http://www.twitch.tv/eslasia Was watching the whole time. Still very disappointed in WE. It feels that they have not grown at all after replacing their support and jungle. They're playing a bit better but every game where they've been behind they have been unable to make any plans to come back from. The closest thing they had of a comeback was Misaya catching Zzitai (who historically is the no. 1 thrower on his team) in Game 1. Fzzf is a great blitzcrank but I wish he got a little bit better on other supports he hasn't impressed me too much off blitz and Chinese junglers suck there's not much WE can do about it :p.
It's not support or jungle. It's generally a team and their game plan. For example Clg.eu when behind tries to make things happen (usually mid because froggen is like the only one on their team who isn't completely obliterated.) or group for objectives. Maybe it's because of the team comp but WE's plan when behind seems to be farm more.
In other news it seems Zzitai is the better laner between the two but Misaya is still better at teamfighting.
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The best part is how the Eve pretended to not know him. Then proceed to troll him all game and realize, shit yea karma goldmine! The guys has been streaming constantly the past couple of weeks, this is the first noticeable incident if its even an incident. Reddit, is pretty shit.
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