EPT[Patch 1.0.0.149: TF Update] General Discussion - Page 141
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MooMooMugi
United States10531 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
Aphromoo is the most awesome ad carry, I don't care if other dudes might be better. | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Viktor'll never be first pick material though, simply because he's got pretty obvious lane counters that also scale better than him lategame. So when I think about it I don't have any mid that I can fp... Hm, maybe Orianna, and Gragas if I decided to made use of the IP I invested in him. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 13:54 Cloud9157 wrote: One day meng, Viktor will be first pick/first ban material, and then we can sit there and say: "All these pros are meta sheep, gg" Just wait for pros to pick up on my support Naut. Thuper Duper stronk. | ||
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Bwaaaa
Australia969 Posts
On October 24 2012 13:19 Sufficiency wrote: Worst? If you are talking about worst, I don't think it's true... there is still Karma, Master Yi, and Urgot lurking somewhere there. Basically if you try to E him, he E you and runs away. Really frurstrating to play. Has urgot really gone full circle from being considered super op and ban worthy to karma tier of bad? What did I miss? Sure he got a few nerfs but he was dominating everyone at the time so they may have been justified but his ult still has too much utility for him to be considered as bad as karma. | ||
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FR4CT4L
Australia697 Posts
http://clgaming.net/live/154-clg-hotshotgg http://clgaming.net/live/4-clg-doublelift | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:11 FR4CT4L wrote: Navitar on Hotshot & Liftx2 stream :D http://clgaming.net/live/154-clg-hotshotgg http://clgaming.net/live/4-clg-doublelift Or watch SilSol (Froggen) and actually watch him lane. SilSol Fizz vs TF. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
partly cos most of us have a major boner for theorycrafting | ||
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Arekan
United States248 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:10 Bwaaaa wrote: Has urgot really gone full circle from being considered super op and ban worthy to karma tier of bad? What did I miss? Sure he got a few nerfs but he was dominating everyone at the time so they may have been justified but his ult still has too much utility for him to be considered as bad as karma. The nerfs that hurt Urgot the most were the lock on range for his Q (1500 down to 1200) and the range of his ult (700/775/850 to 550/700/850). They also nerfed the CD and range of his E as well as the resists of his ult and shield strength on his W. Those were very significant for what made him so powerful (fairly safe long range harass, as well as safety in positioning for the first rank ult). EDIT: Typing without making dumb mistakes gets tougher this late. | ||
Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
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TwoToneTerran
United States8841 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:10 Bwaaaa wrote: Has urgot really gone full circle from being considered super op and ban worthy to karma tier of bad? What did I miss? Sure he got a few nerfs but he was dominating everyone at the time so they may have been justified but his ult still has too much utility for him to be considered as bad as karma. His nerfs were numerous and absolutely brutal. | ||
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Parnage
United States7414 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:16 Tooplark wrote: partly cos most of us have a major boner for theorycrafting Theorycrafting is from my understanding a time honored tradition for Team Liquid users, no matter the topic given enough information it is in a TL'ers very nature to try and understand and predict the outcome and flow of events. I blame Liquibets. | ||
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WilDMousE
Chile1335 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:40 Parnage wrote: Theorycrafting is from my understanding a time honored tradition for Team Liquid users, no matter the topic given enough information it is in a TL'ers very nature to try and understand and predict the outcome and flow of events. I blame Liquibets. We should have a "next fotm champion" liquibet so we can do more theorycrafting! | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
On October 24 2012 14:36 Chexx wrote: yea hotshot so good at top. With a jax build which is 1 year old?! Lolwut? On October 24 2012 14:39 TwoToneTerran wrote: His nerfs were numerous and absolutely brutal. Also, he was never a traditional AD carry in the first place, he was all about zoning the other AD in lane, 1v2ing with blue buff, etc. These things are tough in soloQ compared to last hitting and right clicking during teamfights. So even if he is only underpowered for competitive play (he was nerfed because of competitive domination don't forget, not so much soloQ domination I think), he is going to have a bad time in soloQ. On October 24 2012 14:44 WilDMousE wrote: We should have a "next fotm champion" liquibet so we can do more theorycrafting! I agree with this. Too bad smash works for Riot now though. He will be a mole. | ||
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Tooplark
United States3977 Posts
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
was sarcasm | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
What build i mean. | ||
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Chexx
Korea (South)11232 Posts
2x doran, tabi, guinsoo, gunblade | ||
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cLutZ
United States19574 Posts
Well...its not...abysmal. | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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