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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
October 05 2012 09:47 GMT
#2141
Did servers just completely crash?
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
FR4CT4L
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia697 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 09:50:28
October 05 2012 09:50 GMT
#2142
On October 05 2012 18:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Did servers just completely crash?


Everything seems stable to me in client. With that said http://isleagueoflegendsup.com/ says they are down so I don't know what to believe :S
Veni, vidi, vici!
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 10:51:19
October 05 2012 09:50 GMT
#2143
I'm with spine on this one and items are the only difference.

< 750g when back = Buy ruby crystal (into guise later) and pots. If you have to b this early, you're taking a beating and need the crystal. If you've already surrendered the lane, get Q over W for safer farm.

750g> but <1200g = Get sorcs and pots. Running around is what you do.

>1200g = Get revolver. You're probably doing great already, time to go nuts. Never EVER buy part of revolver as Kat scales bad off of AP and they won't do you much good on their own.

Add guise when possible.

To me it's a tossup between abyssal and death cap for first real item. AP isn't all that awesome on Kat and you're not going to 100-0 anyone anyway so I'd go for versatility in abyssals. If you're really far ahead cap might be worth it though.
DFG is tricky because it might make you bursty enough to kill a carry but that's not really how I play Kat so I haven't tested it enough. Eitheway both GA and hourglass are good picks (i prefer hourglass).
RogerX
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
New Zealand3180 Posts
October 05 2012 11:39 GMT
#2144
On October 05 2012 15:27 xes wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 13:31 HazMat wrote:
On October 05 2012 13:13 Craton wrote:
Oh god, War Janna almost looks as bad as Victorious Jarvan ingame.

I don't think that's possible.

At least her animations are ok.

Championship Riven is alright. Kind of like a "pulsefire" Riven. But her ult form sword... wtf

I really hope they change that ult form...

Like really.
Stick it up. take it up. step aside and see the world
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
October 05 2012 11:52 GMT
#2145
On October 05 2012 18:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Did servers just completely crash?


It said unavailable a few minutes ago when I wanted to log on, but could login fine just now so it seems to be solved.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
ihasaKAROT
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Netherlands4730 Posts
October 05 2012 11:52 GMT
#2146
On October 05 2012 18:50 Cuddle wrote:

750g> but <1200g = Get sorcs and pots. Running around is what you do.


Id buy lucky pick tbh
KCCO!
D u o
Profile Joined October 2011
Canada381 Posts
October 05 2012 13:11 GMT
#2147
Alright I just picked up gragas, wtf do i do? LOL @__@ I am slowly getting enough runes for him but I'm not sure where to cut off getting AP and instead go for MPen one of the guides I've looked at says flat ap quint, mpen mark, armor seals, 2 mpen glyph and 7 ap/level glyph. Is this good, if so can someone explain why? I fail to see why I would get armor seals, is it because early game I'll be taking a lot of harass because of me being melee and my opponent not?
wot?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 05 2012 13:13 GMT
#2148
HoG on Lee Sin

Yay or Nay?
A backwards poet writes inverse.
StateAlchemist
Profile Joined January 2011
France1946 Posts
October 05 2012 13:16 GMT
#2149
Randuin is not a bad item on lee i'd say, so why not.
Cuddle
Profile Joined May 2010
Sweden1345 Posts
October 05 2012 13:16 GMT
#2150
On October 05 2012 20:52 ihasaKAROT wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 18:50 Cuddle wrote:

750g> but <1200g = Get sorcs and pots. Running around is what you do.


Id buy lucky pick tbh


If you're going for DFG this probably the right thing.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 05 2012 13:21 GMT
#2151
On October 05 2012 22:13 Dandel Ion wrote:
HoG on Lee Sin

Yay or Nay?


definite nay
you're playing a champ with the highest offensive capability for the first 3-6 levels, that also has one of the most mediocre/bad lategames, and who gets an HP shield anyway
20 HP is NOT worth it
get d-blades or bruta instead
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
October 05 2012 13:25 GMT
#2152
only if you plan for randuins if not dont
thenexusp
Profile Joined May 2009
United States3721 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-10-05 13:32:31
October 05 2012 13:31 GMT
#2153
On October 05 2012 22:11 D u o wrote:
Alright I just picked up gragas, wtf do i do? LOL @__@ I am slowly getting enough runes for him but I'm not sure where to cut off getting AP and instead go for MPen one of the guides I've looked at says flat ap quint, mpen mark, armor seals, 2 mpen glyph and 7 ap/level glyph. Is this good, if so can someone explain why? I fail to see why I would get armor seals, is it because early game I'll be taking a lot of harass because of me being melee and my opponent not?

What other seal are you going to get? And yeah, any opponent who knows what they're doing is going to abuse the fact you're melee.

Think about it this way: the autoattack of an AP mid is just as good as one from an AD carry at the beginning of the game.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
October 05 2012 13:42 GMT
#2154
I don't even play Lee, but I just saw one build HoG as the first item (after boots opening), and commented on it ingame.
He then went on and on about how good hog is on Lee.

Since I figured he plays Lee, and I don't, who am I to judge that. 'S why I asked here.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
October 05 2012 13:45 GMT
#2155
if you get like a double kill at level 1 and you can afford HoG while you're at a point that you can wreck kids without any additional AD, it might be worth it

but in like 80% of cases i wouldn't even bother

i don't get hog on anyone with a blink, if that means anything. only junglers i still get it on are nunu, udyr, shyv, and skarner, and only cause they all do so much damage/utility that they scale better with defensive items primarily
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2012 15:23 GMT
#2156
On October 05 2012 18:47 ZERG_RUSSIAN wrote:
Did servers just completely crash?


I AFKed through the night and I got DC'ed, so probably yes.
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
Sufficiency
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada23833 Posts
October 05 2012 15:25 GMT
#2157
On October 05 2012 16:51 koreasilver wrote:
wut.

Unless it's a lane you're getting fucked at, you max W first on the new Kat.


Hard to say. Tiensinoakuma actually advocates maxing Q first. Basically the difference is whether or not you want a poke in lane or a waveclear (at nearly melee range).
https://twitter.com/SufficientStats
clickrush
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Switzerland3257 Posts
October 05 2012 15:27 GMT
#2158
On October 05 2012 22:25 AsnSensation wrote:
only if you plan for randuins if not dont


if you lan to buy randuins then wardens mail is the strongest buildup for virtually anyone. hog is only interesting if you want to bank some kill gold on a jungler/support and upgrade it waaaaaay later. warden mail itself allready does wonders has a very nice buildup and is very costeffective for the passive.
oGsMC: Zealot defense, Stalker attack, Sentry forcefieldu forcefieldu, Marauder die die
seanisgrand
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1039 Posts
October 05 2012 15:33 GMT
#2159
Received my first ban today. Didn't even receive an e-mail.
This is well below quality expected of a post in any forum. -Empyrean
Offhand
Profile Joined June 2010
United States1869 Posts
October 05 2012 16:01 GMT
#2160
On October 05 2012 20:39 RogerX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 05 2012 15:27 xes wrote:
On October 05 2012 13:31 HazMat wrote:
On October 05 2012 13:13 Craton wrote:
Oh god, War Janna almost looks as bad as Victorious Jarvan ingame.

I don't think that's possible.

At least her animations are ok.

Championship Riven is alright. Kind of like a "pulsefire" Riven. But her ult form sword... wtf

I really hope they change that ult form...

Like really.

It's like a silly version of the Final Fantasy Masamune. That's right, a SILLY version of a FF weapon.
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