EPT[Patch 1.0.0.147: Syndra] General Discussion - Page 127
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:16 wei2coolman wrote: I never said they were going to change their strategy of standard play, but at least now they're going to adapt certain comps/strategies that keep their farm til late game strat, while counteracting korean meta. Ok then we will see how effectively they "adapt" given their practice habits and given the comparatively weak pool of teams they're practicing against. | ||
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:12 wei2coolman wrote: TSM facing new meta, it's happened before in EU vs NA matches, where one develops a new meta, and it either dominates other teams, or it doesn't work. Clearly, Korean meta was something TSM not use to, got wrecked. I'm sure they're gunna be a lot more weary of other strategies now. CLG lost a lot of fans going to Korea, they didn't stream very much during their stay there. Probably more of a marketing thing, than practice thing. After watching the EU qualification for season 2 final and the US qualification, and the champions used, I'm pretty sure the meta switch is still on. The us seems to be still behind : only playing soraka ahri mid, sometime karthus, and their champion pool in most lane is way less diversified (Dyrus said his Jayce top was an idea he took from the eu qualification). | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:03 TheYango wrote: Pretty dominant against what? NA teams? Again, easy to look good when you're stomping bad teams. TSM vs. Blaze is the only recent game we've seen where TSM played against a relevant team in another region and they were very clearly outclassed. By that time TSM/Blaze will be over 3 months old. Given that it looked like they had NO idea what they were getting into. Seeing that they were able to stall out two games for significant amounts of time, I don't think it's outlandish to say they have a shot. Would I call it a stone cold mortal lock TSM will win? No, but saying they have no chance doesn't give them their due. Do they look good trashing on bad teams? Yeah, but you can only play the team in front of you. | ||
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:12 wei2coolman wrote: TSM facing new meta, it's happened before in EU vs NA matches, where one develops a new meta, and it either dominates other teams, or it doesn't work. Clearly, Korean meta was something TSM not use to, got wrecked. I'm sure they're gunna be a lot more weary of other strategies now. CLG lost a lot of fans going to Korea, they didn't stream very much during their stay there. Probably more of a marketing thing, than practice thing. CLG lost alot of fan not because they were in Korea, if anything they should earn alot more fans since Korean at first really love CLG. They lost their popularity because of all the bad results they dish out. I have to agree with Yango here since tbh NA scene is quite weak compare to EU/Korea. TSM is at most the 4th or 5th seed in this season final. | ||
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TheKefka
Croatia11752 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:07 Mogwai wrote: clg.eu still seems like Froggen + 4 other dudes to me. we'll see how things go, but I think speculation at this point is pretty difficult since there hasn't been a whole lot of recent cross-continent play (that I've seen). Sometimes Froggen is pretty underwhelming as well.He wasn't really the shining star of the ogn finals for clg,it was krepo lol.CLG.eu seems pretty hit and miss often,when they win the stomp people and it seems unfair,but when they aren't doing well it's pretty strange to watch. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:20 Caphe wrote: CLG lost alot of fan not because they were in Korea, if anything they should earn alot more fans since Korean at first really love CLG. They lost their popularity because of all the bad results they dish out. I have to agree with Yango here since tbh NA scene is quite weak compare to EU/Korea. TSM is at most the 4th or 5th seed in this season final. Of course the NA scene is the weakest. Anyone who thinks otherwise is delusional. But TSM can hold their own amongst top teams if they're not being dominated by a new strat. They're pretty solid overall, just lacking diversity. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:20 Gahlo wrote: By that time TSM/Blaze will be over 3 months old. Given that it looked like they had NO idea what they were getting into. Seeing that they were able to stall out two games for significant amounts of time, I don't think it's outlandish to say they have a shot. Would I call it a stone cold mortal lock TSM will win? No, but saying they have no chance doesn't give them their due. Do they look good trashing on bad teams? Yeah, but you can only play the team in front of you. I'm not even saying they don't have a shot, just that they're not in the same tier as M5//Blaze. That doesn't mean that I think M5/Blaze are the only teams with a shot at winning the event. | ||
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AUGcodon
Canada536 Posts
They are M5, CLG EU, Blaze and Frost. Its pretty equal between the 4 and I will give the edge to M5 atm. The next Tier include IG, TSM and maybe TPA(not sure how good they are)? Everyone else is pretty much in the last tier I think. | ||
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Celial
2602 Posts
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h3r1n6
Iceland2039 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:23 TheKefka wrote: Sometimes Froggen is pretty underwhelming as well.He wasn't really the shining star of the ogn finals for clg,it was krepo lol.CLG.eu seems pretty hit and miss often,when they win the stomp people and it seems unfair,but when they aren't doing well it's pretty strange to watch. CLG.EU were travelling all over the place and playing different tournaments across the globe each on a different patch at that time. Not the best conditions to play. I will root for Dignitas to win, but there are many stronger teams. | ||
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Zdrastochye
Ivory Coast6262 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:25 AUGcodon wrote: Well not knowing the seeding arrangement, there are basically 4 favorites to take the entire thing. They are M5, CLG EU, Blaze and Frost. Its pretty equal between the 4 and I will give the edge to M5 atm. The next Tier include IG, TSM and maybe TPA(not sure how good they are)? Everyone else is pretty much in the last tier I think. Sure, if you move CLG.eu down to the TSM tier, I agree. | ||
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Gahlo
United States35173 Posts
Time to bust out the RP algorithms again. | ||
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:25 AUGcodon wrote: Well not knowing the seeding arrangement, there are basically 4 favorites to take the entire thing. They are M5, CLG EU, Blaze and Frost. Its pretty equal between the 4 and I will give the edge to M5 atm. The next Tier include IG, TSM and maybe TPA(not sure how good they are)? Everyone else is pretty much in the last tier I think. Tier 1: M5 Blaze Frost Tier 2: CLG.EU TSM IG Tier 3: everything gets muddled below those 6 teams TPA can be tier 2 if they stop slumping (but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen) otherwise they have no chance with the way they're playing now. | ||
ihasaKAROT
Netherlands4730 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:31 TheYango wrote: Tier 1: M5 Blaze Frost Tier 2: CLG.EU TSM IG Tier 3: everything gets muddled below those 6 teams TPA can be tier 2 if they stop slumping (but it doesn't look like it's gonna happen) otherwise they have no chance with the way they're playing now. CLG.EU is on par with Blaze / Frost / M5 and above TSM. Even TSM said some times ago they were really impressed with CLG.EU's game. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:49 ihasaKAROT wrote: Im not liking the sound of this honorsystem. What am I sposer to be saying to idiots in my team then? "pretty please choke on a pretty flower and get crushed by a falling rainbow of joy" ?? Or you could, you know, not flame them and move on with your life? If someone is playing bad or is just plain dumb, do you really feel like it's your civic duty to hurl insults at them? Grow up, dude. | ||
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OutlaW-
Czech Republic5053 Posts
makes me feel like a plant | ||
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sylverfyre
United States8298 Posts
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WhiteDog
France8650 Posts
On September 21 2012 00:55 Requizen wrote: Or you could, you know, not flame them and move on with your life? If someone is playing bad or is just plain dumb, do you really feel like it's your civic duty to hurl insults at them? Grow up, dude. I rarely flame, but how do you keep your cool when a guy is feeding and saying he is feeding because you didn't gank before lvl 3 ? | ||
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