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overt

United States9006 Posts

September 19 2012 23:19 GMT

#2263

I don't understand the Kha'Zix hate. He brings a new mechanic that no other champion has with the evolve points, he has an interesting assassin kit that seems like it'll make him really strong during early/mid game, and from his kit it seems like he'll be able to jungle pretty decently unless his numbers suck (AoE ability that also heals sounds pretty solid in the jungle unless the CD is too high). Will be interested to see what skill ends up being evolved first on him but just from the descriptions E and R seem like obvious choices to get at 6 and 11 unless the Q rank up is a super noticeable increase on auto-attack range.

Parnage

United States7414 Posts

September 19 2012 23:23 GMT

#2264

Until we get Invoker for League you'll never please everyone with champion releases. I can understand it, I mean I've hated Zyra, Syndra but I tend to hate mages in general and lately it's either been mages or meh junglers. Kha'zix will most likely be a champion I dislike because he's too squishy and his jungle is too slow(wild speculation) so he'll be another top lane or niche mid lane. I have hope nonetheless and I think his design is pretty neat.

HazMat

United States17077 Posts

September 19 2012 23:23 GMT

#2265

Oh wow Froggen is on NA server now. I took a small break from solo queue and suddenly, Froggen. Makes sense since they live in the gaming house now, ha.

AsnSensation

Germany24009 Posts

September 19 2012 23:24 GMT

#2266

Our resident Lee Sin player Hazmat is playing on Froggen's stream right now!!

€: Nvm he sniped me LOL

gl bro

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 19 2012 23:28 GMT

#2267

I think the void reader looks cool but I was hoping it would be like only the first max ability evolves or something that totally makes him a unique character kinda like tiger vs Phoenix but more pronounced.

Requizen

United States33802 Posts

September 19 2012 23:37 GMT

#2268

I tune into Froggen stream to see Shake kill Teemo top.

"Heehee, it's funny because Teemo got kicked in the head"

I like this stream. This is a nice stream.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

September 19 2012 23:38 GMT

#2269

On September 20 2012 08:37 Requizen wrote:
I tune into Froggen stream to see Shake kill Teemo top.

"Heehee, it's funny because Teemo got kicked in the head"

I like this stream. This is a nice stream.

When I tuned in, Teemo killed Shake top

Also a nice start.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

September 19 2012 23:41 GMT

#2270

On September 20 2012 08:11 Craton wrote:
Come again? They've been the exact opposite of "generally good."

I say generally because there were very few knee-jerk buffs/nerfs to new/revamped champions in the past 6 months.

Lulu received her first nerf a month and a half after her release.
Hecarim went a month before getting a couple of very minor buffs.
Varus went three months without changes.
Darius wasn't nerfed for nearly two weeks despite massive complaints about his balance.
Draven hasn't been changed, at all.
It's been two months since Jayce's release and people have been complaining about him for a month, but Riot is only now making any changes (and very conservatively at that).
Zyra, who was instaban upon release for being ridiculously overpowered, wasn't hotfixed for two weeks.
Diana went unnerfed for three weeks.
Rengar only now received buffs, a month after launch, despite having depressingly poor winrates early on.
There is talk of Syndra buffs, but no actual buffs yet.
Twitch, despite remaining wildly unplayed, has received token quality of life buffs three weeks after his rework, and further token buffs another month later.

I don't have any complaints about any of these timelines. Maybe Katarina got nerfed too quickly, and maybe they should have waited a little longer to buff Eve, but generally speaking the days when Riot would "insta buff/nerf" champions are past. We don't see hotfixes for champions one or two days after they release anymore, even when the community considers them out of whack. Maybe two weeks to two months is still too fast for your tastes, but it matches the pace of everything else and hardly constitutes knee-jerk.

There are separate debates to be had about slowing down Riot's pace as a whole or the accuracy of Riot's nerfs/buffs (e.g. Ezreal's "nerf"), but Riot is definitely far better about letting a champion sit a while than they were in the past.

Slusher

United States19143 Posts

September 19 2012 23:46 GMT

#2271

Twitch Taric is a sleeper if Taric gives twitch brush side to work with

kongoline

6318 Posts

September 19 2012 23:46 GMT

#2272

"Rengar only now received buffs, a month after launch, despite having depressingly poor winrates early on."
lolol i think general consensus is rengar was OP even before those retarded buffs, pretty much every pro agrees he is stupid right now

SidianTheBard

United States2475 Posts

September 19 2012 23:46 GMT

#2273

Plus Syndra desperately needs buffs, if you actually sit down on play her you will agree with that. Besides her Q, all her other abilities are either clunky as hell or don't do much even when you spend the 10+ seconds to set it up.

Seuss

United States10536 Posts

September 19 2012 23:48 GMT

#2274

On September 20 2012 08:46 kongoline wrote:
"Rengar only now received buffs, a month after launch, despite having depressingly poor winrates early on."
lolol i think general consensus is rengar was OP even before those retarded buffs, pretty much every pro agrees he is stupid right now

As far as this forum was concerned AP Rengar was OP, which incidentally was nerfed. No one really cared about AD Rengar.

Dandel Ion

Austria17960 Posts

September 19 2012 23:50 GMT

#2275

Riot is just bummed they made an item specifically for a champ and then everybody is buying DEATHCAPS.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

September 19 2012 23:51 GMT

#2276

Yeah I bet they were pretty surprised when riot checked stats and bonetooth necklace was lower than deathcap on the items bought for rengar ROFL

Gorsameth

Netherlands22485 Posts

September 19 2012 23:52 GMT

#2277

Shows you adding random ratios because you can is a bad way to design a champion.

TheYango

United States47024 Posts

September 19 2012 23:54 GMT

#2278

On September 20 2012 08:50 Dandel Ion wrote:
Riot is just bummed they made an item specifically for a champ and then everybody is buying DEATHCAPS.

I don't know why this is surprising to them when the item they made for the champion is basically a snowball item.

overt

United States9006 Posts

September 19 2012 23:55 GMT

#2279

On September 20 2012 08:52 Gorsameth wrote:
Shows you adding random ratios because you can is a bad way to design a champion.

I disagree. I don't think AD Rengar was as awful as some people said pre-buff and now he's even better while AP Rengar is worse. I think the ability to choose whether you build a champion as AD or AP is interesting and if anything Riot should encourage it more imo.

Slayer91

Ireland23335 Posts

September 19 2012 23:57 GMT

#2280

Yeah, it's like sion and kassadin when you look at the original abilities looks like kassadin was supposed to be like anti mage or something with his blink absorb magic damage and ad steriod and sion was supposed to be this lategame melee ad carry heh.