EPT[Patch 1.0.0.140: Darius] General Discussion - Page 78
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Craton
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Jumbled
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On June 01 2012 09:50 Parnage wrote: How to never get banned: Don't be a dick. Let's move on shall we? I want to talk about Draven. Why? Because he's a guy who throws Axes at people. Not just any kind of axe, AXE arangs. I'am not sure if it's an 8bit theatre reference to swordchucks or what but I really like Axe tossing. Hell his ult sounds like a real Axe cannon as it appears to be global. So let me Axe you a question, do you think we really need another AD ranged carry? Even if his kit is so very, interesting in potential awesomeness of complexity something I don't think we've ever seen with a ranged carry(closest going to Ezreal's skillshot only toolset) I mean didn't we just get Varus? I'm just surprised we didn't see a string of AD carry releases earlier. Of all the roles in the standard team setup, it had the fewest viable champs. As for | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
On June 01 2012 10:56 0123456789 wrote: Classic. I failed my driving test twice! Once because I didn't stop for a pedestrian at a crosswalk (She was actually a good 20 meters away from the crosswalk, but whatever, quotas) and once 'cause I genuinely sucked and hadn't practiced in a long time. | ||
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0123456789
United States3216 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
On June 01 2012 10:44 Node wrote: Huh, that is weird. In NY it's take a written test and receive permit -> take 5 hr class -> take driving test and get license. If the class in NJ is anything like NY it's nothing to worry about, just try not to fall asleep. If you've read through the manual once you'll pass the written test. I got my drivers license here in Florida after driving a car literally three in my life. It's that sad. Good thing I'm not a shitty driver. As long as you can take a car out of park and step on the gas you're eligible to drive in Florida, though. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
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Craton
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:22 Craton wrote: Looks like CLG is scrimming 4Not atm. Stream? | ||
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GreenManalishi
Canada834 Posts
1st game is almost over. Here is jiji's: http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
On June 01 2012 10:21 Requizen wrote: In a cool way, he makes me think of Darius, which makes sense given their lore. He looks like an AD caster, where you're going to focus just as much on his abilities as you are his auto attacks, probably a lot like Urgot and more than Ezreal does even. Lot of flair and finesse makes his kit kind of iffy to me (I prefer to play more straightforward characters), but neat. Also, there are really only 15 (and yes that includes Teemo) ranged AD champs in the game, which puts them at the lowest aside from support, so I don't really see a problem with a new ranged AD so soon. (unless you get into separating bruisers/tanks/tanky dps, at which point "pure tanks" have the lowest representation, but that argument has come up way too much) 15??? wtf no way that seems bizarrely high gonna count 'em out ashe cait corki ez graves kennen (?) kogmaw MF sivir teemo (?) trist TF (?) urgot varus vayne interesting, 15, though i wouldn't really count 3 of those. wow i never knew it was that high. i had totally forgotten about sivir and MF tbh. and varus sucks. so that's why i could only think of 8 or 9. also i don't know why you guys let brees trollbait you like that. or how he can still post here. i remember he asked for a perma and got perma'd then like 2 weeks later made this acct to troll with lol. thought TL banned those posters \o/ i guess neo has a soft spot for him | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
A buddy of mine started playing Pantheon after seeing me dominate with him. However, he does silly stuff with him that is just... silly. Case in point, he rushes Trinity force and starts E (EWEWER, R>E>W>Q) because it "does more damage" and spears "waste mana." When I told him that a smart opponent will just run out of HSS so he'll do little to no damage and just pointlessly push the lane during the lane phase he told me that you just need to wait for the W stun every trade. (which uses costs more mana for the same damage as two spears with a longer CD, is much easier to return damage too, and has like zero follow up) I guess my point is, how does one go about telling their friends they are playing subotimally? Or do you just let them do stupid shit? | ||
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overt
United States9006 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:00 Jumbled wrote: I'm just surprised we didn't see a string of AD carry releases earlier. Of all the roles in the standard team setup, it had the fewest viable champs. I disagree entirely with this sentiment. AD carry is probably the only role in the game where every champ designed to fit that role is 100% totally viable at all levels of play. From MF to Urgot to Ezreal to Caitlyn to Vayne. They're all viable choices and they all wax and wane in popularity in the pro scene. And as for the post above, yeh I agree in that I don't think Kennen, Teemo, or TF should be counted as AD carries. Sure you can play all three of them as ADs but Teemo is totally different from every single AD carry while Kennen and TF are both stronger and more commonly built AP imo. When I think about it a bit more though, should Urgot really be considered an AD carry? I mean, I guess it depends on how we define ADs but to me an AD carry is a champ that's going to build AD+crit chance+attack speed to do crazy damage late game. Urgot only builds AD. He's like Teemo in that he's completely different from the rest of the AD carries. So I would probably argue that there's like 11 true AD carries. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:33 gtrsrs wrote: 15??? wtf no way that seems bizarrely high gonna count 'em out ashe cait corki ez graves kennen (?) kogmaw MF sivir teemo (?) trist TF (?) urgot varus vayne interesting, 15, though i wouldn't really count 3 of those. wow i never knew it was that high. i had totally forgotten about sivir and MF tbh. and varus sucks. so that's why i could only think of 8 or 9. also i don't know why you guys let brees trollbait you like that. or how he can still post here. i remember he asked for a perma and got perma'd then like 2 weeks later made this acct to troll with lol. thought TL banned those posters \o/ i guess neo has a soft spot for him It's easy to miss some. TF is usually played AP, Teemo is usually bruiser, Sivir never really sees play, and you missed Twitch altogether (because he's Twitch). Kennen is the only real "non-standard" ranged AD that sees a lot of play until AD Malz or Annie catches on. Still, there's less AD picks than mids, tops, or jungles, so I'm ok with there being another one. | ||
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Zooper31
United States5714 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:37 iCanada wrote: So... A buddy of mine started playing Pantheon after seeing me dominate with him. However, he does silly stuff with him that is just... silly. Case in point, he rushes Trinity force and starts E (EWEWER, R>E>W>Q) because it "does more damage" and spears "waste mana." When I told him that a smart opponent will just run out of HSS so he'll do little to no damage and just pointlessly push the lane during the lane phase he told me that you just need to wait for the W stun every trade. (which uses costs more mana for the same damage as two spears with a longer CD, is much easier to return damage too, and has like zero follow up) I guess my point is, how does one go about telling their friends they are playing subotimally? Or do you just let them do stupid shit? You've done all you can. Let him do stupid shit and he will eventually have a WTF moment when he realizes that he's been playing totally wrong and will change stuff up and play better. If you want him to change his play faster, simply 1v1 him and wreck him. Making him change his play if he wants to beat you lol. | ||
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iCanada
Canada10660 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:45 Zooper31 wrote: You've done all you can. Let him do stupid shit and he will eventually have a WTF moment when he realizes that he's been playing totally wrong and will change stuff up and play better. If you want him to change his play faster, simply 1v1 him and wreck him. Making him change his play if he wants to beat you lol. I did 1v1 him already, he just said I won because I am better at the game in general. Zzz... | ||
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Phrost
United States4008 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:06 BlackPaladin wrote: I got my drivers license here in Florida after driving a car literally three in my life. It's that sad. Good thing I'm not a shitty driver. As long as you can take a car out of park and step on the gas you're eligible to drive in Florida, though. That is pretty sad, coming from NY. I live in Florida, but now I know why everyone without NY plates sucks at driving. | ||
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Slusher
United States19143 Posts
On June 01 2012 11:32 GreenManalishi wrote: 1st game is almost over. Here is jiji's: http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji Hot Shautilis | ||
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Dark_Chill
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On June 01 2012 12:10 Dark_Chill wrote: How do you categorize ad carries anyways? I mean, it should come down to characters that are better ad carries than they would be in other roles at least, so ken and TF don't really seem to make sense. I don't know if we could turn this into another thread (defining what roles there are, who falls under these roles, why they do, how they play, etc), but it could prove to be pretty interesting, and even help to understand which champs are viable for what roles. I'd just say someone who is feasible to put in a role at a competitive level without being a burden to their team. AD Viktor hurts his team because he has nothing useful aside from his gravity field, so he's not a ranged AD. And wonky shit doesn't count. AS/OH Teemo or Kog can work, but isn't really feasible if you want to be good. | ||
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Bladeorade
United States1898 Posts
On June 01 2012 12:21 Requizen wrote: I'd just say someone who is feasible to put in a role at a competitive level without being a burden to their team. AD Viktor hurts his team because he has nothing useful aside from his gravity field, so he's not a ranged AD. And wonky shit doesn't count. AS/OH Teemo or Kog can work, but isn't really feasible if you want to be good. Ah...AS/OH Bruiser Teemo is like the best way to play him. | ||
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