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Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:21:48
June 01 2012 01:59 GMT
#1541
I dunno what's up with Twitch.TV lately. Streams will occasionally go offline, intentionally I think, but will never reconnect themselves unless you refresh the page. Happens a lot with ipllol.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Jumbled
Profile Joined September 2010
1543 Posts
June 01 2012 02:00 GMT
#1542
On June 01 2012 09:50 Parnage wrote:
How to never get banned: Don't be a dick.

Let's move on shall we?

I want to talk about Draven. Why? Because he's a guy who throws Axes at people. Not just any kind of axe, AXE arangs. I'am not sure if it's an 8bit theatre reference to swordchucks or what but I really like Axe tossing. Hell his ult sounds like a real Axe cannon as it appears to be global.

So let me Axe you a question, do you think we really need another AD ranged carry? Even if his kit is so very, interesting in potential awesomeness of complexity something I don't think we've ever seen with a ranged carry(closest going to Ezreal's skillshot only toolset) I mean didn't we just get Varus?

I'm just surprised we didn't see a string of AD carry releases earlier. Of all the roles in the standard team setup, it had the fewest viable champs.

As for Draven Thorkell, his kit looks different and fairly interesting, but it's hard to say how it will turn out. I'm wondering what determines where the axes fall, and whether it just drops at a random position near him or what. I hope the animation for it is distinctive though, otherwise I'd hate trying to catch axes while dodging Kog's artillery.
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
June 01 2012 02:01 GMT
#1543
On June 01 2012 10:56 0123456789 wrote:

Classic.
I failed my driving test twice! Once because I didn't stop for a pedestrian at a crosswalk (She was actually a good 20 meters away from the crosswalk, but whatever, quotas) and once 'cause I genuinely sucked and hadn't practiced in a long time.
twitch.tv/waveofshadow ||| Winner of AHGL's So You Think You Can Cast! ||| Juicy Dad for lyfe ||| 'idk i get a kick out of stupid things' - Jarms Yarng
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:11:16
June 01 2012 02:03 GMT
#1544
Time to say RIP to Neoillusions. Time to think of a way he died. Most funny and creative one wins.
BlackPaladin
Profile Joined May 2010
United States9316 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:07:17
June 01 2012 02:06 GMT
#1545
On June 01 2012 10:44 Node wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 10:28 Jaso wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:23 Navi wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:21 Jaso wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:10 0123456789 wrote:
There's no neo, so no forum moderation. Even though I don't think he never gives out warnings, PARTY TIME!!! Time to talk about the DMV!!!! How many times do people take their driving test before they pass. I only took the test once.


Have to do my 6 hours soon to get my permit, tips? ._.

dont u have to just take the written test to get a permit?


I had to take the written test (passed) in order to take a class for a permit. NJ yayyyyyy.
(actually, maybe you're talking about the permit where you can drive alone. i'm talking about the permit where I have to be with someone who already has their license)


Huh, that is weird. In NY it's take a written test and receive permit -> take 5 hr class -> take driving test and get license. If the class in NJ is anything like NY it's nothing to worry about, just try not to fall asleep. If you've read through the manual once you'll pass the written test.


I got my drivers license here in Florida after driving a car literally three in my life. It's that sad. Good thing I'm not a shitty driver. As long as you can take a car out of park and step on the gas you're eligible to drive in Florida, though.
"Your full potential does not matter if you do not use all 100% of it."
SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
June 01 2012 02:18 GMT
#1546
Whore house heart attack. It was a tranny too.
Craton
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States17303 Posts
June 01 2012 02:22 GMT
#1547
Looks like CLG is scrimming 4Not atm.
twitch.tv/cratonz
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 01 2012 02:29 GMT
#1548
On June 01 2012 11:22 Craton wrote:
Looks like CLG is scrimming 4Not atm.

Stream?
It's your boy Guzma!
GreenManalishi
Profile Joined July 2009
Canada834 Posts
June 01 2012 02:32 GMT
#1549
On June 01 2012 11:29 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:22 Craton wrote:
Looks like CLG is scrimming 4Not atm.

Stream?

1st game is almost over. Here is jiji's:
http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
June 01 2012 02:33 GMT
#1550
On June 01 2012 10:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 09:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On June 01 2012 09:49 BlackPaladin wrote:

So I heard of this game called League of Legends. It's kind of cool. Maybe you should play it.


LoL sucks pretty bad, not sure what you're talking about.

On June 01 2012 09:50 Parnage wrote:
How to never get banned: Don't be a dick.

Let's move on shall we?

I want to talk about Draven. Why? Because he's a guy who throws Axes at people. Not just any kind of axe, AXE arangs. I'am not sure if it's an 8bit theatre reference to swordchucks or what but I really like Axe tossing. Hell his ult sounds like a real Axe cannon as it appears to be global.

So let me Axe you a question, do you think we really need another AD ranged carry? Even if his kit is so very, interesting in potential awesomeness of complexity something I don't think we've ever seen with a ranged carry(closest going to Ezreal's skillshot only toolset) I mean didn't we just get Varus?


He reminds me of more of an Urgot somehow. Not a true AD carry, but similar.

In a cool way, he makes me think of Darius, which makes sense given their lore. He looks like an AD caster, where you're going to focus just as much on his abilities as you are his auto attacks, probably a lot like Urgot and more than Ezreal does even. Lot of flair and finesse makes his kit kind of iffy to me (I prefer to play more straightforward characters), but neat.

Also, there are really only 15 (and yes that includes Teemo) ranged AD champs in the game, which puts them at the lowest aside from support, so I don't really see a problem with a new ranged AD so soon. (unless you get into separating bruisers/tanks/tanky dps, at which point "pure tanks" have the lowest representation, but that argument has come up way too much)



15??? wtf no way
that seems bizarrely high

gonna count 'em out
ashe
cait
corki
ez
graves
kennen (?)
kogmaw
MF
sivir
teemo (?)
trist
TF (?)
urgot
varus
vayne



interesting, 15, though i wouldn't really count 3 of those. wow i never knew it was that high. i had totally forgotten about sivir and MF tbh. and varus sucks. so that's why i could only think of 8 or 9.




also i don't know why you guys let brees trollbait you like that. or how he can still post here. i remember he asked for a perma and got perma'd then like 2 weeks later made this acct to troll with lol. thought TL banned those posters \o/ i guess neo has a soft spot for him
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-06-01 02:39:06
June 01 2012 02:37 GMT
#1551
So...

A buddy of mine started playing Pantheon after seeing me dominate with him. However, he does silly stuff with him that is just... silly.

Case in point, he rushes Trinity force and starts E (EWEWER, R>E>W>Q) because it "does more damage" and spears "waste mana." When I told him that a smart opponent will just run out of HSS so he'll do little to no damage and just pointlessly push the lane during the lane phase he told me that you just need to wait for the W stun every trade. (which uses costs more mana for the same damage as two spears with a longer CD, is much easier to return damage too, and has like zero follow up)

I guess my point is, how does one go about telling their friends they are playing subotimally? Or do you just let them do stupid shit?
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
June 01 2012 02:38 GMT
#1552
On June 01 2012 11:00 Jumbled wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 09:50 Parnage wrote:
How to never get banned: Don't be a dick.

Let's move on shall we?

I want to talk about Draven. Why? Because he's a guy who throws Axes at people. Not just any kind of axe, AXE arangs. I'am not sure if it's an 8bit theatre reference to swordchucks or what but I really like Axe tossing. Hell his ult sounds like a real Axe cannon as it appears to be global.

So let me Axe you a question, do you think we really need another AD ranged carry? Even if his kit is so very, interesting in potential awesomeness of complexity something I don't think we've ever seen with a ranged carry(closest going to Ezreal's skillshot only toolset) I mean didn't we just get Varus?

I'm just surprised we didn't see a string of AD carry releases earlier. Of all the roles in the standard team setup, it had the fewest viable champs.


I disagree entirely with this sentiment. AD carry is probably the only role in the game where every champ designed to fit that role is 100% totally viable at all levels of play. From MF to Urgot to Ezreal to Caitlyn to Vayne. They're all viable choices and they all wax and wane in popularity in the pro scene.

And as for the post above, yeh I agree in that I don't think Kennen, Teemo, or TF should be counted as AD carries. Sure you can play all three of them as ADs but Teemo is totally different from every single AD carry while Kennen and TF are both stronger and more commonly built AP imo.

When I think about it a bit more though, should Urgot really be considered an AD carry? I mean, I guess it depends on how we define ADs but to me an AD carry is a champ that's going to build AD+crit chance+attack speed to do crazy damage late game. Urgot only builds AD. He's like Teemo in that he's completely different from the rest of the AD carries. So I would probably argue that there's like 11 true AD carries.
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 01 2012 02:41 GMT
#1553
On June 01 2012 11:33 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 10:21 Requizen wrote:
On June 01 2012 09:54 Cloud9157 wrote:
On June 01 2012 09:49 BlackPaladin wrote:

So I heard of this game called League of Legends. It's kind of cool. Maybe you should play it.


LoL sucks pretty bad, not sure what you're talking about.

On June 01 2012 09:50 Parnage wrote:
How to never get banned: Don't be a dick.

Let's move on shall we?

I want to talk about Draven. Why? Because he's a guy who throws Axes at people. Not just any kind of axe, AXE arangs. I'am not sure if it's an 8bit theatre reference to swordchucks or what but I really like Axe tossing. Hell his ult sounds like a real Axe cannon as it appears to be global.

So let me Axe you a question, do you think we really need another AD ranged carry? Even if his kit is so very, interesting in potential awesomeness of complexity something I don't think we've ever seen with a ranged carry(closest going to Ezreal's skillshot only toolset) I mean didn't we just get Varus?


He reminds me of more of an Urgot somehow. Not a true AD carry, but similar.

In a cool way, he makes me think of Darius, which makes sense given their lore. He looks like an AD caster, where you're going to focus just as much on his abilities as you are his auto attacks, probably a lot like Urgot and more than Ezreal does even. Lot of flair and finesse makes his kit kind of iffy to me (I prefer to play more straightforward characters), but neat.

Also, there are really only 15 (and yes that includes Teemo) ranged AD champs in the game, which puts them at the lowest aside from support, so I don't really see a problem with a new ranged AD so soon. (unless you get into separating bruisers/tanks/tanky dps, at which point "pure tanks" have the lowest representation, but that argument has come up way too much)



15??? wtf no way
that seems bizarrely high

gonna count 'em out
ashe
cait
corki
ez
graves
kennen (?)
kogmaw
MF
sivir
teemo (?)
trist
TF (?)
urgot
varus
vayne



interesting, 15, though i wouldn't really count 3 of those. wow i never knew it was that high. i had totally forgotten about sivir and MF tbh. and varus sucks. so that's why i could only think of 8 or 9.




also i don't know why you guys let brees trollbait you like that. or how he can still post here. i remember he asked for a perma and got perma'd then like 2 weeks later made this acct to troll with lol. thought TL banned those posters \o/ i guess neo has a soft spot for him

It's easy to miss some. TF is usually played AP, Teemo is usually bruiser, Sivir never really sees play, and you missed Twitch altogether (because he's Twitch). Kennen is the only real "non-standard" ranged AD that sees a lot of play until AD Malz or Annie catches on.

Still, there's less AD picks than mids, tops, or jungles, so I'm ok with there being another one.
It's your boy Guzma!
Zooper31
Profile Joined May 2009
United States5713 Posts
June 01 2012 02:45 GMT
#1554
On June 01 2012 11:37 iCanada wrote:
So...

A buddy of mine started playing Pantheon after seeing me dominate with him. However, he does silly stuff with him that is just... silly.

Case in point, he rushes Trinity force and starts E (EWEWER, R>E>W>Q) because it "does more damage" and spears "waste mana." When I told him that a smart opponent will just run out of HSS so he'll do little to no damage and just pointlessly push the lane during the lane phase he told me that you just need to wait for the W stun every trade. (which uses costs more mana for the same damage as two spears with a longer CD, is much easier to return damage too, and has like zero follow up)

I guess my point is, how does one go about telling their friends they are playing subotimally? Or do you just let them do stupid shit?


You've done all you can. Let him do stupid shit and he will eventually have a WTF moment when he realizes that he's been playing totally wrong and will change stuff up and play better.

If you want him to change his play faster, simply 1v1 him and wreck him. Making him change his play if he wants to beat you lol.
Asato ma sad gamaya, tamaso ma jyotir gamaya, mrtyor mamrtam gamaya
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
June 01 2012 02:47 GMT
#1555
On June 01 2012 11:45 Zooper31 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:37 iCanada wrote:
So...

A buddy of mine started playing Pantheon after seeing me dominate with him. However, he does silly stuff with him that is just... silly.

Case in point, he rushes Trinity force and starts E (EWEWER, R>E>W>Q) because it "does more damage" and spears "waste mana." When I told him that a smart opponent will just run out of HSS so he'll do little to no damage and just pointlessly push the lane during the lane phase he told me that you just need to wait for the W stun every trade. (which uses costs more mana for the same damage as two spears with a longer CD, is much easier to return damage too, and has like zero follow up)

I guess my point is, how does one go about telling their friends they are playing subotimally? Or do you just let them do stupid shit?


You've done all you can. Let him do stupid shit and he will eventually have a WTF moment when he realizes that he's been playing totally wrong and will change stuff up and play better.

If you want him to change his play faster, simply 1v1 him and wreck him. Making him change his play if he wants to beat you lol.


I did 1v1 him already, he just said I won because I am better at the game in general.

Zzz...
Phrost
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States4008 Posts
June 01 2012 02:59 GMT
#1556
On June 01 2012 11:06 BlackPaladin wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 10:44 Node wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:28 Jaso wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:23 Navi wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:21 Jaso wrote:
On June 01 2012 10:10 0123456789 wrote:
There's no neo, so no forum moderation. Even though I don't think he never gives out warnings, PARTY TIME!!! Time to talk about the DMV!!!! How many times do people take their driving test before they pass. I only took the test once.


Have to do my 6 hours soon to get my permit, tips? ._.

dont u have to just take the written test to get a permit?


I had to take the written test (passed) in order to take a class for a permit. NJ yayyyyyy.
(actually, maybe you're talking about the permit where you can drive alone. i'm talking about the permit where I have to be with someone who already has their license)


Huh, that is weird. In NY it's take a written test and receive permit -> take 5 hr class -> take driving test and get license. If the class in NJ is anything like NY it's nothing to worry about, just try not to fall asleep. If you've read through the manual once you'll pass the written test.


I got my drivers license here in Florida after driving a car literally three in my life. It's that sad. Good thing I'm not a shitty driver. As long as you can take a car out of park and step on the gas you're eligible to drive in Florida, though.



That is pretty sad, coming from NY.

I live in Florida, but now I know why everyone without NY plates sucks at driving.
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Slusher
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
United States19143 Posts
June 01 2012 03:08 GMT
#1557
On June 01 2012 11:32 GreenManalishi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 11:29 Requizen wrote:
On June 01 2012 11:22 Craton wrote:
Looks like CLG is scrimming 4Not atm.

Stream?

1st game is almost over. Here is jiji's:
http://clgaming.net/live/3-clg-bigfatjiji


Hot Shautilis
Carrilord has arrived.
Dark_Chill
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada3353 Posts
June 01 2012 03:10 GMT
#1558
How do you categorize ad carries anyways? I mean, it should come down to characters that are better ad carries than they would be in other roles at least, so ken and TF don't really seem to make sense. I don't know if we could turn this into another thread (defining what roles there are, who falls under these roles, why they do, how they play, etc), but it could prove to be pretty interesting, and even help to understand which champs are viable for what roles.
CUTE MAKES RIGHT
Requizen
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States33802 Posts
June 01 2012 03:21 GMT
#1559
On June 01 2012 12:10 Dark_Chill wrote:
How do you categorize ad carries anyways? I mean, it should come down to characters that are better ad carries than they would be in other roles at least, so ken and TF don't really seem to make sense. I don't know if we could turn this into another thread (defining what roles there are, who falls under these roles, why they do, how they play, etc), but it could prove to be pretty interesting, and even help to understand which champs are viable for what roles.

I'd just say someone who is feasible to put in a role at a competitive level without being a burden to their team. AD Viktor hurts his team because he has nothing useful aside from his gravity field, so he's not a ranged AD.

And wonky shit doesn't count. AS/OH Teemo or Kog can work, but isn't really feasible if you want to be good.
It's your boy Guzma!
Bladeorade
Profile Joined August 2010
United States1898 Posts
June 01 2012 03:25 GMT
#1560
On June 01 2012 12:21 Requizen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2012 12:10 Dark_Chill wrote:
How do you categorize ad carries anyways? I mean, it should come down to characters that are better ad carries than they would be in other roles at least, so ken and TF don't really seem to make sense. I don't know if we could turn this into another thread (defining what roles there are, who falls under these roles, why they do, how they play, etc), but it could prove to be pretty interesting, and even help to understand which champs are viable for what roles.

I'd just say someone who is feasible to put in a role at a competitive level without being a burden to their team. AD Viktor hurts his team because he has nothing useful aside from his gravity field, so he's not a ranged AD.

And wonky shit doesn't count. AS/OH Teemo or Kog can work, but isn't really feasible if you want to be good.

Ah...AS/OH Bruiser Teemo is like the best way to play him.
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