EPT[Patch 1.0.0.140: Darius] General Discussion - Page 70
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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JackDino
Gabon6219 Posts
On May 31 2012 18:51 Alaric wrote: Jax's E would prevent autos and W to apply passive stacks, I guess, and he can disengage with Leapstrike, but that would force him to play very defensively to keep his spells up, and even then Jax is better in drawn-out fights where Darius' passive shine, and his ult isn't mitigated by anything. I dunno, I didn't play against Darius at all yet (except on a level 6 smurf, and I was in another lane every time) but it seems like Jax would at best have a rough time, especially early levels. Played against a jax once, we were pretty even but eventually he got some big items and then it's just jax you know. | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
 ^Unrelated: Saintvicious bashing HotShot jungle on his stream, it's pretty funny. ''Do you realize you have only ONE pink ward? THE greatest jungler HotShotGG will come and gank you.'' ''Hotshot has 3 kills? What the fuck, how did that even happen?'' | ||
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NeedsmoreCELLTECH
Netherlands1242 Posts
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
Also a lot of champs beat him top lane (I've still seen a Tryndamere with TP do nothing but splitpush and he managed to farm thus even tho I beat him soundly in lane because the rest of the team lost and thus couldn't 4v4, but none except me could go stop Tryn 1v1 either). | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On May 31 2012 21:04 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Why isn't tryn seen more in high elo play? He still seems like a fking monster, especially once he starts snowballing. Because his role is filled better by others. If you want someone who just splitpushs the shit out of a lane, pick Nidalee, if you want a lategame monster, pick Jax. At no point in my last 100 champ selects I felt like ''damn, thank god I can pick Trynd in this situation'' | ||
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arb
Noobville17922 Posts
On May 31 2012 18:00 Shiv. wrote: How do you ever get a single CS? Also, how do you deal with him just pulling you after the silence wore off? There's nothing stopping him from just following you. Talon is great against a lot of AP champions because most of them lack the tools to punish you for E-AA-Q-Wing them. Darius can simply wreak havoc on you after your combo and there's little you can do. Also, I'd like to see how your ultimate takes half of his health and how that would be relevant with it being on a 75s CD at 6. You can't clear waves with your W for a long time, and even if you could, you lack the mana to do so frequently if you ever plan on fighting Darius. Not sure what to say. I thought it was pretty common knowledge a lot of bruisers flat out counter Talon because of their tendency to build armor. What are you going to do after he got Tabi+Wriggle's? Please name 3 of those matchups. Yorick excluded, because fuck that guy. I can see Kennen winning easily, but then again, Kennen has no BAD matchups per say. I'm genuinely interested, because you seem to have no issues with Darius while the rest of the world is complaining about his retarded laning phase against Melees. I still think Rivens really strong against him | ||
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Alaric
France45622 Posts
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On May 31 2012 21:49 Alaric wrote: Well who isn't Riven strong against, apart from Kennen? Olaf if you're as bad as me at timing your E against his E, and Kayle. Unless your name is goldfather8, I'd say Kayle is a really tough matchup for Riven. | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 31 2012 21:04 NeedsmoreCELLTECH wrote: Why isn't tryn seen more in high elo play? He still seems like a fking monster, especially once he starts snowballing. I saw a tourney where he was picked (can't remember the team), and the casters kept saying how smart of a pick it was and how Trynd would carry once he got some items. Long story short, Trynd got shut down in lane, did diddly squat all game, and their team lost. He has his moments, but he has plenty of weaknesses to take advantage of. | ||
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Numy
South Africa35471 Posts
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Sermokala
United States14187 Posts
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 31 2012 22:34 Numy wrote: Didn't Alex ich play Trynd mid some games and carried hard? Mid Trynd is good if you get the right pick, because he can crap on people with low mobility or who can't burst him down. There are plenty of mids who would do well against him, but not as many as there are tops who can lane against him. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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Torchise
Canada245 Posts
Their homepage itself seems normal, but clicking on any of the links redirect you to another website (hacking.rs). I got NoScript on my browser so I think I'm okay. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
To be honest, just get jungler to gank for you early. Darius will inherently just push if he wants to bully you and if he doesn't bully you then that's on him. Though....I guess I also have to say that if you're solo queuing then you might not be able to rely on those ganks..... | ||
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Requizen
United States33802 Posts
On May 31 2012 23:51 Zergneedsfood wrote: I personally would just choose Irelia every time I face a Darius, but then again I'm comfortable playing Irelia against any top laner in the ELO I'm currently in, and since I don't have that much experience facing him, I can't say for sure what's good against him. To be honest, just get jungler to gank for you early. Darius will inherently just push if he wants to bully you and if he doesn't bully you then that's on him. Though....I guess I also have to say that if you're solo queuing then you might not be able to rely on those ganks..... I've seen a lot of Irelias get wrecked by Darius, and others do well. It's an odd matchup, because she has more staying power and CC, while he can burst her down in a combo with a couple items. As a jungler, ganking Darius is actually really easy early on, until he starts getting tankier or stacks AD, at which point you risk a double kill top. I try to shut him down and grab some armor. | ||
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Zergneedsfood
United States10671 Posts
And the reason why I say gank early is because Darius will want to bully me (if I pick Irelia) early, which means my E will stun, and if the jungler has good enough cc/bursty spells, it shouldn't be that hard. If I can get a kill, I'd like to think that I don't lose the advantage easily. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
I don't understand chinese (i'd assume that's the language they're speaking), but man you could hear how they made fun of toyz not hitting anybody with that galio ult :p | ||
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Eppa!
Sweden4641 Posts
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