EPTIts a werid idea that he would want to start jungeing. Hotshot was never good in the early to mid game and only truely shined by being clutch when it finaly came time for a 5v5 teamfight.
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Sermokala
United States14187 Posts
Its a werid idea that he would want to start jungeing. Hotshot was never good in the early to mid game and only truely shined by being clutch when it finaly came time for a 5v5 teamfight. | ||
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Sabin010
United States1892 Posts
Like where I live in America, if some one pushes me, and I hit him in the face and knock his teeth out. I end up going to jail. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
As for Darius, while his ult is amazing, I just havn't been impressed with his laning. I'm terrible toplane, but if there's a Darius top, using Warwick hasn't had an issue for me. So long as I'm not retarded and ward, I can just lane bully by starting cloth 5. He spins, I claw. He builds MR, I build attack damage and... well, howl then attack. I think now that people are better figuring out how to fight against him, the initial "New Hero, wat do?" effect is diminishing heavily. | ||
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QuakerOats
United States1024 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:17 wei2coolman wrote: Watching HSGG stream. O my god, he's the worst fucking jungler I've ever fucking seen. He goes up for a gank on bot lane, gets only 1 kill. but him and botlane die. And it's not like it was even a counter gank. How is this guy still on a pro team ??? >.>, so baddy. I've seen him do some dumb stuff but if you look at his match history he's won 9 of his past 10 games, and the only game he lost was the only game he didn't jungle. Of course, this is solo queue, but I'd say he's doing pretty well now. | ||
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Sponkz
Denmark4564 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:47 Sabin010 wrote: I apologize for my language, but lets look at this from a third person's perspective. I see person a, say in all chat, fucking (insert racist/homophobic adjective) noob twitch gg, please report. Then I see person B goes, hey fuck you buddy go fuck off. I see no reason why either one of those people shouldn't be punished. Like where I live in America, if some one pushes me, and I hit him in the face and knock his teeth out. I end up going to jail. I agree to some extent, except that in League of Legends, people genereally have a negative attitude towards other people they don't relate very well with (nationality, champions, builds etc.). If someone flames you, you MAY flame back, but you should also beware of the fact that it won't solve nothing. I myself, tend to rage alot, but lately i've been trying not to flame back and so far with the result that the flaming stops. Don't feed trolls, don't feed flamers/ragers. | ||
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SnK-Arcbound
United States4423 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:50 QuakerOats wrote: I've seen him do some dumb stuff but if you look at his match history he's won 9 of his past 10 games, and the only game he lost was the only game he didn't jungle. Of course, this is solo queue, but I'd say he's doing pretty well now. He literally gets carried by his lanes. There is a reason why he's a non factor in solo queue and wins, but in 5's he's a nonfactor and gets fucking crushed. I've said before hotshot should make a new account and start jungling at 1200. He isn't learning anything when his team carries him, and he will literally never get better at jungling. He builds wrong, he levels his skills wrong, he literally does everything wrong, yet he still wins (in solo queue anyways). | ||
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Roffles
Pitcairn19291 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:46 Sermokala wrote: do we have a case study on someone else switching roles and how fast they got decent at it to see what to expect from hotshot? Its a werid idea that he would want to start jungeing. Hotshot was never good in the early to mid game and only truely shined by being clutch when it finaly came time for a 5v5 teamfight. Doublelift learned AD pretty well. Used to only play like niche champs like Blitz/Poppy, and was supporting at Dreamhack a year ago. | ||
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Fuzzmosis
Canada752 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:56 SnK-Arcbound wrote: He literally gets carried by his lanes. There is a reason why he's a non factor in solo queue and wins, but in 5's he's a nonfactor and gets fucking crushed. I've said before hotshot should make a new account and start jungling at 1200. He isn't learning anything when his team carries him, and he will literally never get better at jungling. He builds wrong, he levels his skills wrong, he literally does everything wrong, yet he still wins (in solo queue anyways). I don't get it. That implies at 2k+ elo, games are decided by 4 players only. So either Hotshot is amazingly lucky and almost always gets the team with 4 players who are greater than the sum of the 5 2k+ elo players... or he has an impact. Because what that implies is that at that ELO, most opposing junglers don't have an impact and HSGG is lucky, or HSGG is so lucky that he can't lose. I know junglers get blamed a lot, but to be logically told it's valueless? That's harsh. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:35 jacosajh wrote: Saint said it best: "As it turns out, he owns CLG" But soon, CLG will fade into nothing so rest easy young one. I thought jiji owned CLG? and that hsgg was just manager/face of it? I don't want to see CLG go down though, especially if it means it'll drag down Chauster and Doublelift (my favorite botlane pair, though nhat and aphromoo are growing on me) | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
On June 01 2012 03:08 wei2coolman wrote: I thought jiji owned CLG? and that hsgg was just manager/face of it? I don't want to see CLG go down though, especially if it means it'll drag down Chauster and Doublelift (my favorite botlane pair, though nhat and aphromoo are growing on me) no hsgg was always the owner/founder of CLG | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 01 2012 03:04 Fuzzmosis wrote: I don't get it. That implies at 2k+ elo, games are decided by 4 players only. So either Hotshot is amazingly lucky and almost always gets the team with 4 players who are greater than the sum of the 5 2k+ elo players... or he has an impact. Because what that implies is that at that ELO, most opposing junglers don't have an impact and HSGG is lucky, or HSGG is so lucky that he can't lose. I know junglers get blamed a lot, but to be logically told it's valueless? That's harsh. Solo queue wins is almost always determined by snowballing lane, and jungle don't make as big of an impact in those lanes as soon as they start the snowball. | ||
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bmn
886 Posts
(Even if the people who start it *should be* banned too, the tribunal only votes on reports, so if nobody reports them, they won't be sanctioned, fair or not.) On June 01 2012 02:41 AsnSensation wrote: But if it's infact like he posted he's prolly not banned because of flaming but because everytime he loses people automatically blame Top Twitch it ain't his fault which is ridiculous. Thats what I understood. I agree with you though that flame shouldnt be countered with flame, like a few days ago Wickd played against M5 toplaner and he flamed him hard in the chat while Wickd only laughed in his mic and didnt write a single workd back. Thats the right attitude. There is no reason to assume it's because he plays top twitch. He admits as much in his post. If picking Twitch gets you into flamefests, it's probably the flamefest part that gets you banned -- picking Twitch, or even Eve, is expressly allowed, as long as you're not trolling. As mentioned earlier, your best option is to try to find out more about the reason. Perhaps asking explicitly whether you were banned simply for picking Twitch is more useful than a blanket question. | ||
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gtrsrs
United States9109 Posts
no, jiji is definitely the founder/owner | ||
Beyonder
Netherlands15103 Posts
Now what was the problem with HSGG as a top laner? Exactly those skills. If HSGG would be good at anything, if it is not bot lane, it'd be something at bot lane... It's a ridiculous choice.. I see him doing okay in agressive bot lane matchups. All i can think of T_T | ||
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storkfan
493 Posts
On June 01 2012 02:47 Sabin010 wrote: I apologize for my language, but lets look at this from a third person's perspective. I see person a, say in all chat, fucking (insert racist/homophobic adjective) noob twitch gg, please report. Then I see person B goes, hey fuck you buddy go fuck off. I see no reason why either one of those people shouldn't be punished. Like where I live in America, if some one pushes me, and I hit him in the face and knock his teeth out. I end up going to jail. Wait, isnt america supposed to be about good samaritans and citizen self defense? Like from the indian and cowboy days? | ||
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Shiv.
3534 Posts
On June 01 2012 03:12 wei2coolman wrote: Solo queue wins is almost always determined by snowballing lane, and jungle don't make as big of an impact in those lanes as soon as they start the snowball. Junglers play a huge role in starting said snowball effect. HotShot's been KSing everywhere he can to get himself fed to a point where it doesn't matter he can't farm for his life, he just reaches a certain point where his champion is about as strong as their top laner and he's able to 1v1 almost anyone on the map. At least that's what happened the two Nocturne games I have watched him play. | ||
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beefhamburger
United States3962 Posts
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TheYango
United States47024 Posts
No, no he's not. http://25minstosurrender.podomatic.com/entry/2011-04-07T01_32_14-07_00 Listened to this ages ago. Chauster basically explains in there how CLG came into existence. While jiji was organizing premades and stuff through beta, CLG as a competitive team was founded by Hotshot when Hotshot contacted Chauster about getting him and jiji to play competitively. | ||
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wei2coolman
United States60033 Posts
On June 01 2012 03:17 Shiv. wrote: Junglers play a huge role in starting said snowball effect. HotShot's been KSing everywhere he can to get himself fed to a point where it doesn't matter he can't farm for his life, he just reaches a certain point where his champion is about as strong as their top laner and he's able to 1v1 almost anyone on the map. At least that's what happened the two Nocturne games I have watched him play. but by ksing everywhere, is that he weakens is teammates lane phase. I think hsgg imo is the weakest pro-player jungler out of all the pro-teams. Even dan dinh was a better jungler, despite is "wtf are you building???" builds. | ||
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