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gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
May 31 2012 06:52 GMT
#1361
On May 31 2012 15:16 zulu_nation8 wrote:
haoz's team is pretty good at 5s lol, talks a lot of shit though


eh
i mean they're decent
last time we scrimmed them i made their jungler ragequit because i was stomping him so hard
but we played them in ranked 5s today and they beat us by a bit
so 1-1 with SG, that's the level they're at
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 07:25:41
May 31 2012 07:25 GMT
#1362
On May 31 2012 13:53 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 12:11 HazMat wrote:
On May 31 2012 10:59 Jaso wrote:
Froggen doesn't need to play full-time.
Always "one hell of a player" according to Alex Ich.

Also, anyone know what happened to that guy who used to be #1 all the time on TT rankings?

Haoz?
He still plays TT. Makes a team, gets it to rank 1 and deletes it and restarts. His ranked stats are hilar due to this.


o_o

lol too ez for him I guess. Why doesn't he ever get seen in competitive play? LoL needs more 3v3 tournaments :o, though even I hate it because it's boring.


Because the map is fucking broken, there's way too much pressure on dragon and it's far too difficult to defend against early ganks. Jungle routes are subject to major RNG as well.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
1ntrigue
Profile Joined May 2012
Australia948 Posts
May 31 2012 07:37 GMT
#1363
On May 31 2012 15:12 zulu_nation8 wrote:
taiwan people so fucking good at this game, just played with lantyr high elo taiwan streamer, best lee sin ever.

http://www.twitch.tv/lantyr/b/319895419

Dunno about Taiwanese, but I think we gotta look out for the top Chinese teams very soon. WE is so damn strong. They had a relatively poor showing in the Go4LoL Asia tournament, but they were playing on 200ms ping.
PeZuY
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
935 Posts
May 31 2012 08:00 GMT
#1364
Do tell, what is the best pick against Darius:X
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 31 2012 08:01 GMT
#1365
On May 31 2012 17:00 PeZuY wrote:
Do tell, what is the best pick against Darius:X

i like talon personally.
JackDino
Profile Joined July 2010
Gabon6219 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 08:03:24
May 31 2012 08:02 GMT
#1366
On May 31 2012 17:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On May 31 2012 17:00 PeZuY wrote:
Do tell, what is the best pick against Darius:X

i like talon personally.

Can't darius just Q you when you try to W him, and even pull you? He should win every auto trade.
This isnt Broodwar so I dont owe anyone respect for beating me. -arb
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 08:08:44
May 31 2012 08:06 GMT
#1367
On May 31 2012 17:02 JackDino wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 17:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 31 2012 17:00 PeZuY wrote:
Do tell, what is the best pick against Darius:X

i like talon personally.

Can't darius just Q you when you try to W him, and even pull you? He should win every auto trade.

you can catch W at an angle that darius can't respond to it but it's at the corner of the arc not directly in front. if he goes to pull you, it's pretty obvious, and you can just silence him and run, once you both hit 6, darius should NEVER be able to do anything. since your ult allows you to take half his life for free, and is on such a low CD. Also, being able to just W a wave and clear it means you can ignore darius altogether for parts of the game, which severely hurts him, since in order for him to get cs he has to put himself in W range, which you will be using to clear the waves anyway. as for auto attack trades, attack Q after a W for talon will deal more than attack W after pull for darius.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 31 2012 08:08 GMT
#1368
I think it was 5HIT that said Shyvana wrecks Darius, and in the 1 time I've played the matchup as Shyshy, this held true.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
May 31 2012 08:09 GMT
#1369
On May 31 2012 17:08 iCanada wrote:
I think it was 5HIT that said Shyvana wrecks Darius, and in the 1 time I've played the matchup as Shyshy, this held true.

yep, any character that has good disengages, can kite, or can clear waves rapidly hurt darius. he has so many bad match-ups top.I feel he won't be viable for long up there, still decent in the jungle i guess.
iCanada
Profile Joined August 2010
Canada10660 Posts
May 31 2012 08:14 GMT
#1370
I dunno, I just free farmed and then pressed W every time Darius tried to fight me. Auto->Q and the dude ran away because he lost the trade.

I could see it being more difficult against a good Darius because I got a lot of free chasing damage in almost every time, but I feel like Shyvana traded well with him assuming W is up and just slaughtered him when E's armor shred on him.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
May 31 2012 08:23 GMT
#1371
they say 1900 on US server is like 1600 on taiwan server
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
May 31 2012 08:30 GMT
#1372
Taiwanese players are insanely good
|LoL & SC2 IGN both my username| Just livin' the baylife| Hearthstone ID: MooMooMugi#1544| Dank Memer since 2011
AsnSensation
Profile Joined April 2011
Germany24009 Posts
May 31 2012 08:39 GMT
#1373
Oh wow that new Panth skin is pretty beasty too bad i dont play Panth that often and already have the awesome perseus skin.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 09:03:07
May 31 2012 09:00 GMT
#1374
On May 31 2012 17:06 PrinceXizor wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 17:02 JackDino wrote:
On May 31 2012 17:01 PrinceXizor wrote:
On May 31 2012 17:00 PeZuY wrote:
Do tell, what is the best pick against Darius:X

i like talon personally.

Can't darius just Q you when you try to W him, and even pull you? He should win every auto trade.

you can catch W at an angle that darius can't respond to it but it's at the corner of the arc not directly in front. if he goes to pull you, it's pretty obvious, and you can just silence him and run, once you both hit 6, darius should NEVER be able to do anything. since your ult allows you to take half his life for free, and is on such a low CD. Also, being able to just W a wave and clear it means you can ignore darius altogether for parts of the game, which severely hurts him, since in order for him to get cs he has to put himself in W range, which you will be using to clear the waves anyway. as for auto attack trades, attack Q after a W for talon will deal more than attack W after pull for darius.

How do you ever get a single CS? Also, how do you deal with him just pulling you after the silence wore off? There's nothing stopping him from just following you.

Talon is great against a lot of AP champions because most of them lack the tools to punish you for E-AA-Q-Wing them. Darius can simply wreak havoc on you after your combo and there's little you can do. Also, I'd like to see how your ultimate takes half of his health and how that would be relevant with it being on a 75s CD at 6.

You can't clear waves with your W for a long time, and even if you could, you lack the mana to do so frequently if you ever plan on fighting Darius.

Not sure what to say. I thought it was pretty common knowledge a lot of bruisers flat out counter Talon because of their tendency to build armor. What are you going to do after he got Tabi+Wriggle's?


On May 31 2012 17:09 PrinceXizor wrote:
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On May 31 2012 17:08 iCanada wrote:
I think it was 5HIT that said Shyvana wrecks Darius, and in the 1 time I've played the matchup as Shyshy, this held true.

yep, any character that has good disengages, can kite, or can clear waves rapidly hurt darius. he has so many bad match-ups top.I feel he won't be viable for long up there, still decent in the jungle i guess.

Please name 3 of those matchups. Yorick excluded, because fuck that guy. I can see Kennen winning easily, but then again, Kennen has no BAD matchups per say. I'm genuinely interested, because you seem to have no issues with Darius while the rest of the world is complaining about his retarded laning phase against Melees.
currently rooting for myself.
Alaric
Profile Joined November 2009
France45622 Posts
May 31 2012 09:05 GMT
#1375
Renekton and Fiora have been mentioned here, I guess you could add Lee Sin as he has the tools to dictates how and when to engage/disengage, amongst others.
Cant take LMS hipsters serious.
wussleeQ
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
United States3130 Posts
May 31 2012 09:32 GMT
#1376
i got wrecked vs a nidalee as darius so she might count >_>
BW -> League -> CSGO
Redox
Profile Joined October 2010
Germany24794 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 09:46:14
May 31 2012 09:41 GMT
#1377
Lot of stange stuff has been going on at aAa and Sypher. Reports about splitting up, player leaving etc.
Now I read a post on reddit about how this could have ended up:

http://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/uc67p/in2lol_kickoff_tournament_featuring_clgeu_m5_navi/c4u94lu

aAa = SWEGIRLX(top),sOAZ(mid),Linak(jungle),lyumi(ad),Lounter(sup) Sypher = MoMa,nRated,YellOw,hydrq, and last one changed couple of times.

nothing is official tho


Very interesting if true. We will see at the next tournaments.


edit: posted in wrong thread, sry
Off-season = best season
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 09:44:03
May 31 2012 09:42 GMT
#1378
Ren,fiora,Lee,wu,Talon (IMO), Swain,Shy, Yorick, Mundo, GP, jax, Kenn, Malphite.

don't know too much about how nid lanes, since i never see her. but knowing spear and her heal, maybe.

of course these pick ranges from viable and powerful, to putting a character in a less useful lane than normal, to bad characters.
Shiv.
Profile Joined January 2011
3534 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 09:49:05
May 31 2012 09:45 GMT
#1379
On May 31 2012 18:05 Alaric wrote:
Renekton and Fiora have been mentioned here, I guess you could add Lee Sin as he has the tools to dictates how and when to engage/disengage, amongst others.

Renekton I can see, Fiora I haven't tried yet, even though I guess if she manages to parry his W that would work out well. I still don't see her outdamaging him, but I wouldn't know for sure. I've played against Lee twice and managed to tear him apart, just because it didn't seem to matter he can pick his engagements well because there simply was no good time for him to engage at all. That doesn't neccessarily say much about the MU per say, but that's how it went for me.

I have no idea how Wukong, GP and Jax wouldn't get trashed, though, especially GP. Thanks for providing those matchups nontheless, I'm sure some of them work just fine. Swain, Kennen probably trash him, but then again, it was the melees I saw struggling. Nidalee is probably better off going AD instead of AP, which puts her in the awkward position that she HAS to get near him to deal any significant damage post 6.
currently rooting for myself.
PrinceXizor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States17713 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-05-31 09:51:12
May 31 2012 09:50 GMT
#1380
On May 31 2012 18:45 Shiv. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 31 2012 18:05 Alaric wrote:
Renekton and Fiora have been mentioned here, I guess you could add Lee Sin as he has the tools to dictates how and when to engage/disengage, amongst others.

Renekton I can see, Fiora I haven't tried yet, even though I guess if she manages to parry his W that would work out well. I still don't see her outdamaging him, but I wouldn't know for sure. I've played against Lee twice and managed to tear him apart, just because it didn't seem to matter he can pick his engagements well because there simply was no good time for him to engage at all. That doesn't neccessarily say much about the MU per say, but that's how it went for me.

I have no idea how Wukong, GP and Jax wouldn't get trashed, though, especially GP.

Wu and jax can disengage at will, and avoid attacks altogether

wu and GP do extremely well building tanky, which gives them advantages over darius. winning you lane and having positive matchups aren't always about kills you know. GP has an added advantage of being able to kite darius.
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