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The Champions Feedback Thread General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it. ~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote: Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean? No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base | ||
IntoTheWow
is awesome32275 Posts
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vasculaR
Malaysia791 Posts
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Goshawk.
United Kingdom5338 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:17 IntoTheWow wrote: Why did ryze get a revolver, Lulu has a WOTA already Double WotA, pro tactics Najin finally pulling themself together "just fucking go kill them"-style €: That game was actually entertaining, with all the WTF moments | ||
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shrinkmaster
Germany947 Posts
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
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justiceknight
Singapore5741 Posts
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Inflicted
Australia18228 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote: No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana. | ||
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sob3k
United States7572 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote: No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base Its very bad, opening tear makes ryze very squishy and weak early....adding chalice makes him worthless. He should have so much mana anyway with runes and cata that it really isnt an issue, he will run out of health way before mana. they also ran him in a soraka lane.....tear and chalice and soraka infuse....obscenely overkill on the mana. | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
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pschiu
Singapore410 Posts
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Caphe
Vietnam10817 Posts
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Longshank
1648 Posts
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Schwopzi
Netherlands954 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote: This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana. nega doesn't build into ga ... But ye, negatron or null-magic mantle (ga, merc threads) are fine for some early magic res. | ||
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Mios
United States686 Posts
edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs? | ||
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DonKey_
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:36 Mios wrote: is it over? forgot about this today edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs? Do not watch Super Star vs. Team OP. Not exciting or Insightful. | ||
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Jamial
Denmark1289 Posts
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Dandel Ion
Austria17960 Posts
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote: This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana. Well, no. You'll still run out of mana with only tear and Soraka. Ryze was given no blue at all (which you normally get when you're Ryze mid), so he had to build something that gives tons of manareg. Soraka's infuse is very overrated on APs, moreso on Ryze. While the manapool increase is noticeable on ADs with 300 max mana, Ryze eats through Sora's mana with half a basketball. He might as well have gone for Catalyst, but in the end, both do the same thing, and he wanted to get (double) WotA + SV up asap. So while chalice doesn't build into anything, it's way cheaper, so he would have reached his goto build faster. Game ended even before that, though. Chalice was not the problem, and in that position probably the right decision. Thing is, I don't see a way to build Ryze out of the hole NEB dug themself with their comp and bad engages. | ||
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Two_DoWn
United States13684 Posts
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