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The Champions Feedback Thread

General Warning: Do not caster bash in this thread. If there's something specific you don't like about OGN's casting, use the Feedback thread above for constructive criticism. Otherwise, don't comment about it.
~ Neo, 30.03.12, 20:25 KST
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
April 04 2012 12:18 GMT
#2021
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?

Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?

No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
IntoTheWow
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
is awesome32274 Posts
April 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#2022
gg
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vasculaR
Profile Joined March 2011
Malaysia791 Posts
April 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#2023
good game. was fun to watch
Song Ji Hyo hwaiting!
Goshawk.
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United Kingdom5338 Posts
April 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#2024
Such poor itemization by NEB really cost them imoimo.
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 12:20:22
April 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#2025
On April 04 2012 21:17 IntoTheWow wrote:
Why did ryze get a revolver, Lulu has a WOTA already

Double WotA, pro tactics


Najin finally pulling themself together "just fucking go kill them"-style


€: That game was actually entertaining, with all the WTF moments
A backwards poet writes inverse.
shrinkmaster
Profile Joined May 2010
Germany947 Posts
April 04 2012 12:19 GMT
#2026
funny game
Voltaire: The true triumph of reason is that it enables us to get along with those who do not possess it.
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 04 2012 12:20 GMT
#2027
Nautilus initiating on a backline target again. He rly managed to make the worst decisions possible the last 2 fights.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
justiceknight
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Singapore5741 Posts
April 04 2012 12:21 GMT
#2028
how many ACE did najin got for this game? 4?
Inflicted
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia18228 Posts
April 04 2012 12:21 GMT
#2029
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?

Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?

No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base


This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana.
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sob3k
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States7572 Posts
April 04 2012 12:21 GMT
#2030
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?

Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?

No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base


Its very bad, opening tear makes ryze very squishy and weak early....adding chalice makes him worthless. He should have so much mana anyway with runes and cata that it really isnt an issue, he will run out of health way before mana.

they also ran him in a soraka lane.....tear and chalice and soraka infuse....obscenely overkill on the mana.
In Hungry Hungry Hippos there are no such constraints—one can constantly attempt to collect marbles with one’s hippo, limited only by one’s hippo-levering capabilities.
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 12:22:23
April 04 2012 12:22 GMT
#2031
Spiral Cats :3 cute
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
pschiu
Profile Joined April 2010
Singapore410 Posts
April 04 2012 12:23 GMT
#2032
Well, that was fun to watch, but it looked more like a lulzy showmatch than a serious game. Dem Koreans cheering made things sound so epic though. Also a small part of me died inside as I witness Ryze's build through the game. And that Kat cosplayer looks a little awkward, lacks a little flair.
Caphe
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Vietnam10817 Posts
April 04 2012 12:25 GMT
#2033
Lulu is quite good at the protect the AD carry game. I wonder if we're gonna see her in protect the Kogmar team comp.
Terran
Longshank
Profile Joined March 2010
1648 Posts
April 04 2012 12:27 GMT
#2034
Nautilus managed to take the worst engagements when his team were out of position or even moving back. Poor initiations lost them the game, then again, he did ninja that baron in style so yeah...
Schwopzi
Profile Joined August 2010
Netherlands954 Posts
April 04 2012 12:32 GMT
#2035
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?

Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?

No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base


This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana.


nega doesn't build into ga ...
But ye, negatron or null-magic mantle (ga, merc threads) are fine for some early magic res.
Only the dead have seen the end of war
Mios
Profile Joined April 2010
United States686 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-04-04 12:40:49
April 04 2012 12:36 GMT
#2036
is it over? forgot about this today

edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs?
no LAN and intercontinental bnet = T_T
DonKey_
Profile Joined May 2010
Liechtenstein1356 Posts
April 04 2012 12:50 GMT
#2037
On April 04 2012 21:36 Mios wrote:
is it over? forgot about this today

edit: hmm I guess so, do you guys recommended any matches when they become VODs?


Do not watch Super Star vs. Team OP. Not exciting or Insightful.
`Oh, you can't help that,' said the Cat: `we're all mad here. I'm mad. You're mad.'
Jamial
Profile Joined October 2010
Denmark1289 Posts
April 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2038
Where are the vods located? Are they free to watch?
Flaf?
Dandel Ion
Profile Joined November 2010
Austria17960 Posts
April 04 2012 12:52 GMT
#2039
On April 04 2012 21:21 Inflicted_ wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2012 21:18 Shikyo wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:16 Dandel Ion wrote:
On April 04 2012 21:15 -Kato- wrote:
What is this Ryze doing with Chalice?

Chalice really strong on ryze. What do you mean?

No it's not, it delays his core by far too much. He has all 6 slots filled by 20min anyway, Chalice's a completely wasted slot. Ryze has 4500 mana and unless he spams all his spells on creeps he's never going to run out of mana before having to go back to base


This. If you wanted mres, you can just build Negatron Cape which goes into a Banshee's Veil or perhaps GA later on. With a Tear of the Goddess and Soraka, you'll never run out of mana.

Well, no. You'll still run out of mana with only tear and Soraka. Ryze was given no blue at all (which you normally get when you're Ryze mid), so he had to build something that gives tons of manareg.

Soraka's infuse is very overrated on APs, moreso on Ryze. While the manapool increase is noticeable on ADs with 300 max mana, Ryze eats through Sora's mana with half a basketball.

He might as well have gone for Catalyst, but in the end, both do the same thing, and he wanted to get (double) WotA + SV up asap. So while chalice doesn't build into anything, it's way cheaper, so he would have reached his goto build faster. Game ended even before that, though.


Chalice was not the problem, and in that position probably the right decision.
Thing is, I don't see a way to build Ryze out of the hole NEB dug themself with their comp and bad engages.
A backwards poet writes inverse.
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
April 04 2012 13:03 GMT
#2040
I can think of literally no situation where I would ever get a chalice on ryze and not have it be an absolutely retarded choice.
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