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NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 01 2012 03:29 GMT
#21
it's all going to come down to his ratios
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 03:40:00
February 01 2012 03:30 GMT
#22
yeah the thing with parrrley is that it only has a 1:1 AD ratio but the whole dmg crits so basically at lvl 1 you get 40 extra dmg to a crit in comparison to autoing

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TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
February 01 2012 03:37 GMT
#23
On February 01 2012 12:28 asianskill wrote:
wow that ulti looks... broken

Looks like a long range gragas ult

How is that comparison apt at all? Ziggs' ult only does damage.
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Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 03:38:10
February 01 2012 03:38 GMT
#24
Quick note:

The ult where it looks like ziggs does a billion damage with his ult

Phreak is level 17 with 500 ap.

Malphite is level 11
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Akinokaze
Profile Joined March 2011
Australia326 Posts
February 01 2012 03:38 GMT
#25
On February 01 2012 12:04 Ryuu314 wrote:
Show nested quote +
Blitzkrieg0 wrote:
I hope this is just a tooltip oversight and Riot isn't stupid enough to make it apply to minions.

what's wrong with it applying to minions? locket seems to be a port of dota's pipe of insight and that one applies to minions without breaking the game.

the big issue with locket is if you can stack locket shields. my guess is multiple uses of locket won't stack the shield, but will refresh the duration. so you can still have 1k+ total shield on your team with 5 lockets but you'll need to be more coordinated about activating 'em.


Is the shield amount really gonna be per ally? Recipe seems to come out to about 1.8k and a ~750 team shield in a mid-game team fight sounds a bit ridiculous.
In the Emperor we trust
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 03:40 GMT
#26

On February 01 2012 12:29 NotSorry wrote:
it's all going to come down to his ratios

bouncing bomb 540 dmg with 437 AP on golem.

Assuming a standard 260 base dmg, ratio is 0.64, so I guess it's 0.65 and he only has 29 mpen. Could also be 0.7 or 0.6 with different base dmg.



What mostly worries me is that the first hit of minefield did like 537 dmg and the rest like 130 or whatever... that's crazy
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rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
February 01 2012 03:42 GMT
#27
brees how 2 get perma-banned in LoL?
FADC
I_Love_Bacon
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States5765 Posts
February 01 2012 03:43 GMT
#28
Forget the ult, his passive looks like it hits pretty damn hard. It looks like against the gragas, who has his W up, he lands an auto w/ the proc for around 200 damage.
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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
February 01 2012 03:48 GMT
#29
On February 01 2012 12:43 I_Love_Bacon wrote:
Forget the ult, his passive looks like it hits pretty damn hard. It looks like against the gragas, who has his W up, he lands an auto w/ the proc for around 200 damage.

And then there's the thing that bouncing bomb has like 1400 range
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asianskill
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States289 Posts
February 01 2012 03:48 GMT
#30
On February 01 2012 12:37 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:28 asianskill wrote:
wow that ulti looks... broken

Looks like a long range gragas ult

How is that comparison apt at all? Ziggs' ult only does damage.


Long range ult with large radius of damage, Cd of only 60 seconds at level 3 similar to Gragas
Sure it lacks the displacement but the range looks like it makes up for it
herrro
overt
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States9006 Posts
February 01 2012 03:50 GMT
#31
Ashe and Ez ults granting sight as they travel is an interesting change. Could be used as a desperation CV.
rwrzr
Profile Joined February 2010
United States1980 Posts
February 01 2012 03:50 GMT
#32
On February 01 2012 12:48 asianskill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:37 TheYango wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:28 asianskill wrote:
wow that ulti looks... broken

Looks like a long range gragas ult

How is that comparison apt at all? Ziggs' ult only does damage.


Long range ult with large radius of damage, Cd of only 60 seconds at level 3 similar to Gragas
Sure it lacks the displacement but the range looks like it makes up for it


Satchel charge looks like it has a mini-stun effect if you get bounced into a wall (ala alistar) or am i crazy?
FADC
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
February 01 2012 03:52 GMT
#33
On February 01 2012 12:50 rwrzr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:48 asianskill wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:37 TheYango wrote:
On February 01 2012 12:28 asianskill wrote:
wow that ulti looks... broken

Looks like a long range gragas ult

How is that comparison apt at all? Ziggs' ult only does damage.


Long range ult with large radius of damage, Cd of only 60 seconds at level 3 similar to Gragas
Sure it lacks the displacement but the range looks like it makes up for it


Satchel charge looks like it has a mini-stun effect if you get bounced into a wall (ala alistar) or am i crazy?


I think so; I saw that as well. I'm not sure if it's actually a stun or just prevents you from moving.
derp
Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 03:56:52
February 01 2012 03:56 GMT
#34
I dunno why youd compare it to gragas ulti, it's clearly a poor man's ezreal ult (or pantheon trolo)
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SnK-Arcbound
Profile Joined March 2005
United States4423 Posts
February 01 2012 03:57 GMT
#35
He'll probably be either obviously op, or up right at the start, similar to ahri. First she sucked, then she was OP and needed to be banned, and now she's just a normal ap.

Also I love yordles, short things are cute.
NotSorry
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States6722 Posts
February 01 2012 03:58 GMT
#36
I love killing yordles, short things are creepy.
We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men. - Orwell
Jaso
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States2147 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-02-01 04:01:51
February 01 2012 04:01 GMT
#37
On February 01 2012 12:58 NotSorry wrote:
I love killing yordles, short things are creepy.


Annie is not creepy. Even though she's not a yordle she's short.

Ok maybe a little bit.
Little girl who shoots fire and makes bear is kinda scary.

edit: btw, does Shake still play LoL? haven't seen him online lately or on these forums.. but he has been playing a lot of TF2 haha.
derp
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
February 01 2012 04:02 GMT
#38
On February 01 2012 13:01 Jaso wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2012 12:58 NotSorry wrote:
I love killing yordles, short things are creepy.


Annie is not creepy. Even though she's not a yordle she's short.

Ok maybe a little bit.
Little girl who shoots fire and makes bear is kinda scary.

edit: btw, does Shake still play LoL? haven't seen him online lately or on these forums.. but he has been playing a lot of TF2 haha.

But what about a girl who shoots a flaming bear?
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
Ryalnos
Profile Joined July 2010
United States1946 Posts
February 01 2012 04:03 GMT
#39
Ziggs sure looks fun, but we'll have to see how he fares when his numbers aren't based on a 14 minute deathcap...
littlejunior
Profile Joined April 2011
Brazil50 Posts
February 01 2012 04:04 GMT
#40
How about Sivir nerfs? You guys think it hurt her alot?
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