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NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 23 2011 16:43 GMT
#2101
http://www.nosoi.co.uk/

Found this blog on /r/LoL. Pretty fun read if you're into other peoples' analyses, etc.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
August 23 2011 16:47 GMT
#2102
On August 24 2011 01:36 Southlight wrote:
Dunno what the point is, as the point of a game house it so consolidate practice partners *shrugs*


They probably want to improve on their godlike teamwork.....and they need to be in the same house for that to happen.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 23 2011 16:53 GMT
#2103
On August 24 2011 01:47 JBright wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 01:36 Southlight wrote:
Dunno what the point is, as the point of a game house it so consolidate practice partners *shrugs*


They probably want to improve on their godlike teamwork.....and they need to be in the same house for that to happen.


13:00 Regi needs a shoulder massage
when he pings twice it means he needs a tissue
15:30 Dyrus needs to go to the bathroom so DD will learn how to micro two mice at once.

etc?
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
STS17
Profile Joined April 2010
United States1817 Posts
August 23 2011 16:55 GMT
#2104
That sounds about right
Platinum Level Terran - Take my advice from that perspective
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
August 23 2011 17:03 GMT
#2105
Just hit level 30 and played some ranked games. First few were blowouts, next 3 were with horrible teams. In one of them I went Sion first to have some tanky dps, and then when I ask for more AP when the remaining picks are AD/hybrid at best, the guy goes Teemo. Teemo/Akali then feed for the next 20 minutes, Warwick has heal (should have dodged right then) and kind of is at top, kind of jungling while doing nothing productive, and my entire team bickers amongst itself while refusing to surrender. End score is like 14-44, and Teemo's only items are a Warmog's and a Giants' Belt. I think he had heal too. -_-

Also no one has any idea what to do against Shen at this level. They're all like: he's low on HP, let's dive a turret! I went Shen myself out of frustration and while I felt kind of useless early on, eventually the taunt and Ashe's frost arrows turned a few fights in our favor, culminating in my ward seeing them attempt Nashor's while extremely low on health, resulting in 4/5 of them dying when me and Nocturne ganked them and the rest of the team shows up for cleanup. If you told me my third ranked game win would be Shen I would have been like "hahaha, yeah right."

Reverse Annie looks pretty awesome!
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
August 23 2011 17:10 GMT
#2106
On August 23 2011 21:23 zalz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:17 -Zoda- wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:40 DrKlingmann wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Last week we had:
Since 4 rotations we've had 40 distinct champs (not even 1 repetition).
Since 6 rotations we've had 52 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 60)

58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick
57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong
56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Ryze, Singed, Taric, Trundle
55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Shen, Sion, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean
54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate
53 Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne
52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick
51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir
50 LeBlanc, Tristana
49 Irelia, Orianna
48 Nocturne
47 Lee Sin, Swain
46 Kennen
45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao
44
43 Sona
42 Karthus
41
40
39 Nidalee, Olaf
38 Karma, Twitch
37
36
35
34
33 Gragas
32 Tryndamere
.
.
.
\/
21 Shaco
13 Evelynn

And now we have:
Since 4 rotations we've had 39 distinct champs (just 1 repetition - Shen).
Since 6 rotations we've had 49 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 58)
And we have 2 champs that were unavailable for far too long (Nida - week 39, Gragas - week 33)
So those rotations are quite solid for smb who wants to try many champs.
And at the same time they provide good selection for new players.

59 Cho'Gath, Gragas, Nidalee, Ryze, Shen, Skarner, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean
58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick
57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong
56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Singed, Taric, Trundle
55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Sion
54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate
53 Cassiopeia, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne
52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick
51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir
50 LeBlanc, Tristana
49 Irelia, Orianna
48 Nocturne
47 Lee Sin, Swain
46 Kennen
45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao
44
43 Sona
42 Karthus
41
40
39 Olaf
38 Karma, Twitch
37
36
35
34
33
32 Tryndamere
.
.
.
\/
21 Shaco
13 Evelynn


Wow, they really don't like Evelynn. :O
Btw speaking of Shen avaliable this week, does anyone play him now ? Wouldn't he need a remake maybe ?


Imo Shen is still great. He can turn any fight into a 2v1 or a 3v2. People feel he isn't strong enough to hold that top lane that he needs and i suppose that is somewhat of a fair complaint but not every game is gonna have a top Udyr.

It doesn't matter--so long as the top laner has remotely any pushing ability (and incidentally most of the top laners that aren't good at pushing are the super-sustainable melees like Udyr and Warwick), they can force you into awkward situations post-6 where 1-2 ultis will result in losing your tower. This didn't happen in the tank+support bottom lanes on US because the support could hold the lane and try to limit tower damage even if you TPed mid or top.
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Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 23 2011 17:13 GMT
#2107
Shen is competent and can win games, the only question is whether it's really worth playing an underpowered hero, but people played stuff like Trynd so I dunno what's stopping them.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
TheYango
Profile Joined September 2008
United States47024 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-08-23 17:22:41
August 23 2011 17:22 GMT
#2108
On August 24 2011 02:13 Southlight wrote:
Shen is competent and can win games, the only question is whether it's really worth playing an underpowered hero, but people played stuff like Trynd so I dunno what's stopping them.

Even when he was overpowered, many people considered Shen fairly boring to play. I'm assuming that's why he's played less than similarly underpowered heroes.
Moderator
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 23 2011 17:27 GMT
#2109
On August 24 2011 02:10 TheYango wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 23 2011 21:23 zalz wrote:
On August 23 2011 21:17 -Zoda- wrote:
On August 23 2011 20:40 DrKlingmann wrote:+ Show Spoiler +

Last week we had:
Since 4 rotations we've had 40 distinct champs (not even 1 repetition).
Since 6 rotations we've had 52 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 60)

58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick
57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong
56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Ryze, Singed, Taric, Trundle
55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Shen, Sion, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean
54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate
53 Cassiopeia, Cho'Gath, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne
52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick
51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir
50 LeBlanc, Tristana
49 Irelia, Orianna
48 Nocturne
47 Lee Sin, Swain
46 Kennen
45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao
44
43 Sona
42 Karthus
41
40
39 Nidalee, Olaf
38 Karma, Twitch
37
36
35
34
33 Gragas
32 Tryndamere
.
.
.
\/
21 Shaco
13 Evelynn

And now we have:
Since 4 rotations we've had 39 distinct champs (just 1 repetition - Shen).
Since 6 rotations we've had 49 distinct champs. (7 - 55, 8 - 58)
And we have 2 champs that were unavailable for far too long (Nida - week 39, Gragas - week 33)
So those rotations are quite solid for smb who wants to try many champs.
And at the same time they provide good selection for new players.

59 Cho'Gath, Gragas, Nidalee, Ryze, Shen, Skarner, Teemo, Urgot, Veigar, Zilean
58 Annie, Blitzcrank, Caitlyn, Lux, Kog'Maw, Maokai, Master Yi, Morgana, Rammus, Warwick
57 Ashe, Brand, Dr. Mundo, Galio, Gangplank, Janna, Kassadin, Malphite, Sivir, Wukong
56 Amumu, Corki, Heimerdinger, Jax, Miss Fortune, Nasus, Singed, Taric, Trundle
55 Katarina, Leona, Malzahar, Nunu, Sion
54 Anivia, Mordekaiser, Poppy, Rumble, Twisted Fate
53 Cassiopeia, Fiddlesticks, Garen, Renekton, Soraka, Vayne
52 Alistar, Pantheon, Yorick
51 Akali, Ezreal, Kayle, Udyr, Vladimir
50 LeBlanc, Tristana
49 Irelia, Orianna
48 Nocturne
47 Lee Sin, Swain
46 Kennen
45 Jarvan IV, Xin Zhao
44
43 Sona
42 Karthus
41
40
39 Olaf
38 Karma, Twitch
37
36
35
34
33
32 Tryndamere
.
.
.
\/
21 Shaco
13 Evelynn


Wow, they really don't like Evelynn. :O
Btw speaking of Shen avaliable this week, does anyone play him now ? Wouldn't he need a remake maybe ?


Imo Shen is still great. He can turn any fight into a 2v1 or a 3v2. People feel he isn't strong enough to hold that top lane that he needs and i suppose that is somewhat of a fair complaint but not every game is gonna have a top Udyr.

It doesn't matter--so long as the top laner has remotely any pushing ability (and incidentally most of the top laners that aren't good at pushing are the super-sustainable melees like Udyr and Warwick), they can force you into awkward situations post-6 where 1-2 ultis will result in losing your tower. This didn't happen in the tank+support bottom lanes on US because the support could hold the lane and try to limit tower damage even if you TPed mid or top.

I saw a solo top Shen beat a solo top Udyr a couple nights ago. It blew my mind.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
August 23 2011 17:44 GMT
#2110
Who was dis ninja?
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
August 23 2011 17:46 GMT
#2111
so no announcement yet as to when season 1 is ending?
Mogwai
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States13274 Posts
August 23 2011 17:48 GMT
#2112
On August 24 2011 02:44 NeoIllusions wrote:
Who was dis ninja?

I was playing on TwoDown, so it was some 1600 ninja beating down some 1600 udyr, so less impressive than you'd think.
mogwaismusings.wordpress.com
Two_DoWn
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States13684 Posts
August 23 2011 17:49 GMT
#2113
But I'm sure my pantheon play was SUPER impressive. Even if I dont remember it very well. God I gotta get these temporary blackouts checked out.
"What is the air speed velocity of an unladen courier?" "Dire or Radiant?"
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 23 2011 17:55 GMT
#2114
On August 24 2011 00:20 gtrsrs wrote:
OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD
GRAGAS IS FINALLY FREE

i had to wait til the last week of season 1 but HOLY SHIT HE'S FINALLY FREE


boom and got my gragas win
have ranked wins with every champ but wukong and yorick now
:smug:

gonna go get those right now
:smug:

i'm so cool
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
Lanzoma
Profile Joined February 2011
Mexico813 Posts
August 23 2011 18:12 GMT
#2115
Not to be an ass, but a guy in my friend list has had wins with all champs in ranked for a while now.

:smug-by-proxy:
barbsq
Profile Joined November 2009
United States5348 Posts
August 23 2011 18:19 GMT
#2116
stop that, guitar needs to feel like hes actually good at the game, huehuehue
Look at this guy, constantly diluting himself! (╮°-°)╮┳━┳ ( ╯°□°)╯ ┻━┻
gtrsrs
Profile Joined June 2010
United States9109 Posts
August 23 2011 18:22 GMT
#2117
On August 24 2011 03:12 Lanzoma wrote:
Not to be an ass, but a guy in my friend list has had wins with all champs in ranked for a while now.

:smug-by-proxy:


impossible, as new champs are released so often
"for a while" can only mean 1-2 weeks
and i would have all 81 right now but during yorick free week i was homeless and during wukong free week i started my first week at work


that's okay i have enough IP to buy both. i just wish they weren't so bad l0l
i play ... hearthstone =\^.^/= Winterfox
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
August 23 2011 18:36 GMT
#2118
did anyone else know veigar is actually insane with a stun support bot lane? I had this setup in a game last night and was very surprised at how well he does with babysitting, really made me rethink how good the hero might be.
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Southlight
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States11768 Posts
August 23 2011 18:38 GMT
#2119
Veigar Soraka is fairly common, at least before this upcoming patch. Do you not remember my anguished wails of how Veigar(!) Soraka stomps a lot of lanes? #1 blatant overpowered healer kthx.

He still sucks as a hero though.
oraoraoraoraoraoraoraora
GranDim
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
Canada1214 Posts
August 23 2011 18:39 GMT
#2120
On August 24 2011 03:22 gtrsrs wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 24 2011 03:12 Lanzoma wrote:
Not to be an ass, but a guy in my friend list has had wins with all champs in ranked for a while now.

:smug-by-proxy:


impossible, as new champs are released so often
"for a while" can only mean 1-2 weeks
and i would have all 81 right now but during yorick free week i was homeless and during wukong free week i started my first week at work


that's okay i have enough IP to buy both. i just wish they weren't so bad l0l


Too bad Talon is coming out right?
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