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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On May 14 2011 14:33 NeoIllusions wrote: You are a real fk noob that tries covers his badness by the lack of tryharding. Get srs. and youre trying to cover up your badness by tryharding. Get hueuhe. idk I might start playing srs over the summer but if I want to become a professional skyrim player I need to play a lot of morrowind and oblivion. Hard choices to make. | ||
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Ryuu314
United States12679 Posts
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Yiruru
Canada690 Posts
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StuffedTurkey
United States859 Posts
On May 14 2011 15:23 HazMat wrote: and youre trying to cover up your badness by tryharding. Get hueuhe. idk I might start playing srs over the summer but if I want to become a professional skyrim player I need to play a lot of morrowind and oblivion. Hard choices to make. DARGONS! should be an epic game, who would want to play srs over summer when you could troll over summer | ||
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unichan
United States4223 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + Akali: Westrice Alistar: Reginaid Amumu: Kobe24 Anivia: Bigfatjiji, ManyReason, a Lilac Annie: TheOddOne Ashe: TL ezpzlmnsqz Blitzcrank: Doublelift Brand: elementz Caitlyn: bigfatjiji, westrice Cassiopeia: hotshotgg Cho'Gath: 5HITCOMBO, HotshotGG Corki: TL ezpzlmnsqz, ReginaId, Chaox, Bigfatjiji, Chauster Dr. Mundo: Chauster Evelynn: ScYx17 Ezreal: Xpecial, Chauster, VoyBoy, Yiruru Fiddlesticks: Galio: Gangplank: caller Garen: Chauster, LoCicero Gragas: Heimerdinger: Irelia: Atlanta, Sologamer, Chaox, Doublelift Janna: Farfred, tlspinesheath Jarman the Fourth: SmashGizmo, KriticalKill, a8000 Jax: Dyrus Karma: Karthus: ScarletDoom, xsliepnir Kassadin: Reginaid, chillfish Katarina: tiensi no akuma Kayle: Kennen: Xpecial, L0CUST, Salce Kog'Maw: LeBlanc: maknoon Lux: xxPhaxen, elementz Malphite: Malzahar: Maokai: chu8 Master Yi: Strelo, whatsupchan Miss Fortune: TL EzPzLmnSqz, Yiruru, knob HK Mordekaiser: parkjaehyuk Morgana: LoCicero Nasus: LoCicero Nidalee: HotShotgg, I Got a, xfaultx Nocturne: whatsupchan Nunu: TheOddOne Olaf: whatsupchan Pantheon: MakNooN, LoCicero, SmashGizmo Poppy: doublelift Rammus: Rumble: TreeEskimo Ryze: Shaco: ReginaId Shen: laoching Singed: Saintvicious, Samsterlicious, Dyrus, loveinabottle Sion: Sivir: Yiruru Sona: Soraka: puregoldenboy Swain: Elementz Taric: LoCicero Teemo: The Rain Man, TreeEskimo Tristana: Locodoco, Atlanta Trundle: saintvicious Tryndamere: h4ckerv2, gingerbrown Twisted Fate: bigfatjiji, ManyReason, Taerang Twitch: Udyr: Urgot: BruiseLeet, Bigfatjiji Vayne: Veigar: LoCicero Vladimir: Yiruru Warwick: Lapakaa Xin Zhao: HotshotGG, whatsupchan Zilean: Bigfatjiji | ||
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
Edit: dam sologamer, too. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 14 2011 17:10 unichan wrote: Okay to help you all out I made a new list, that's even worse than the old one. I just put elementz there for champs I see him play because no one else plays them. And dsc for all of the dps junglers. Yepyep + Show Spoiler + Akali: Westrice Alistar: Reginaid Amumu: Kobe24 Anivia: Bigfatjiji, ManyReason, a Lilac Annie: TheOddOne Ashe: TL ezpzlmnsqz Blitzcrank: Doublelift Brand: elementz Caitlyn: bigfatjiji, westrice Cassiopeia: hotshotgg Cho'Gath: 5HITCOMBO, HotshotGG Corki: TL ezpzlmnsqz, ReginaId, Chaox, Bigfatjiji, Chauster Dr. Mundo: Chauster Evelynn: ScYx17 Ezreal: Xpecial, Chauster, VoyBoy, Yiruru Fiddlesticks: Galio: Gangplank: caller Garen: Chauster, LoCicero Gragas: Heimerdinger: Irelia: Atlanta, Sologamer, Chaox, Doublelift Janna: Farfred, tlspinesheath Jarman the Fourth: SmashGizmo, KriticalKill, a8000 Jax: Dyrus Karma: Karthus: ScarletDoom, xsliepnir Kassadin: Reginaid, chillfish Katarina: tiensi no akuma Kayle: Kennen: Xpecial, L0CUST, Salce Kog'Maw: LeBlanc: maknoon Lux: xxPhaxen, elementz Malphite: Malzahar: Maokai: chu8 Master Yi: Strelo, whatsupchan Miss Fortune: TL EzPzLmnSqz, Yiruru, knob HK Mordekaiser: parkjaehyuk Morgana: LoCicero Nasus: LoCicero Nidalee: HotShotgg, I Got a, xfaultx Nocturne: whatsupchan Nunu: TheOddOne Olaf: whatsupchan Pantheon: MakNooN, LoCicero, SmashGizmo Poppy: doublelift Rammus: Rumble: TreeEskimo Ryze: Shaco: ReginaId Shen: laoching Singed: Saintvicious, Samsterlicious, Dyrus, loveinabottle Sion: Sivir: Yiruru Sona: Soraka: puregoldenboy Swain: Elementz Taric: LoCicero Teemo: The Rain Man, TreeEskimo Tristana: Locodoco, Atlanta Trundle: saintvicious Tryndamere: h4ckerv2, gingerbrown Twisted Fate: bigfatjiji, ManyReason, Taerang Twitch: Udyr: Urgot: BruiseLeet, Bigfatjiji Vayne: Veigar: LoCicero Vladimir: Yiruru Warwick: Lapakaa Xin Zhao: HotshotGG, whatsupchan Zilean: Bigfatjiji This list is much closer to reality than the other one. I can vouch for that. But duuude, that Farfred guy plays AP Janna... | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2011 18:30 BlackPaladin wrote: No Guardsman Bob!!! D: He's never been a good player, what would he do on that list? There's no "listens to decent rock" section EDIT stanley, elementz for jarman? What does smashgizmo do there anyway <_< 5HITCOMBO for Chogath, no Rainman for chogath? I guess your list is made to be bias but it won't be accurate like that <_< EDIT2: Oh, Vaynes tumble resets autoattack timer. Another reason to get Triforce, since aspd doesn't matter every few attacks. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
On May 14 2011 19:04 Shikyo wrote: He's never been a good player, what would he do on that list? There's no "listens to decent rock" section EDIT stanley, elementz for jarman? What does smashgizmo do there anyway <_< 5HITCOMBO for Chogath, no Rainman for chogath? I guess your list is made to be bias but it won't be accurate like that <_< EDIT2: Oh, Vaynes tumble resets autoattack timer. Another reason to get Triforce, since aspd doesn't matter every few attacks. Well there's two kind of lists you can do: 1) list of highest rated players that play said champion 2) list of people who mastered the champion. 5HIT and Bob aren't people who are the highest elo cho/xin (respectively) players, however they sure know their mains like nobody else. Sure - Hotshot is now placed at #1 in solo queue ladder and he used to play xin some time ago. But this doesn't actually mean that his xin play is optimal, it just means that his overall skill made him play xin well. However that is huge difference, because IMO this kind of list should not be created to enlarge hotshot's e-penis. It should be created to help newer players choose a "role model" for their favorite champion. If you want to play Xin well - look at Bob's masteries, skills, items and laning. Llearning from 1800 elo player who plays xin like 2,1k elo player is better than learning xin from 2,4k elo player that plays him like 2,1k elo player. Also you should know that there is the difference between "learning xin" and "learning how to win". You can have the best laning in the world but still continue to lose the games, because the laning phase and the mid/lategame phase = two different games. | ||
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spinesheath
Germany8679 Posts
On May 14 2011 19:04 Shikyo wrote: EDIT2: Oh, Vaynes tumble resets autoattack timer. Another reason to get Triforce, since aspd doesn't matter every few attacks. Tumble is also a reason not to get Triforce: You HAVE to tumble to get the proc, but tumble has a long animation which cuts into your true damage output. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2011 19:55 spinesheath wrote: Tumble is also a reason not to get Triforce: You HAVE to tumble to get the proc, but tumble has a long animation which cuts into your true damage output. It's not that long, it only is long if you get too much aspd. Before that point it actually gives you more dps even without the bonus dmg because of the reset. It's like not getting triforce on trundle because bite has a long animation. On May 14 2011 19:52 Kaniol wrote: Well there's two kind of lists you can do: 1) list of highest rated players that play said champion 2) list of people who mastered the champion. 5HIT and Bob aren't people who are the highest elo cho/xin (respectively) players, however they sure know their mains like nobody else. Sure - Hotshot is now placed at #1 in solo queue ladder and he used to play xin some time ago. But this doesn't actually mean that his xin play is optimal, it just means that his overall skill made him play xin well. However that is huge difference, because IMO this kind of list should not be created to enlarge hotshot's e-penis. It should be created to help newer players choose a "role model" for their favorite champion. If you want to play Xin well - look at Bob's masteries, skills, items and laning. Llearning from 1800 elo player who plays xin like 2,1k elo player is better than learning xin from 2,4k elo player that plays him like 2,1k elo player. Also you should know that there is the difference between "learning xin" and "learning how to win". You can have the best laning in the world but still continue to lose the games, because the laning phase and the mid/lategame phase = two different games. Gbob's Xin doesn't even look like he even knows it in and out, to be honest. It just looks really bad, and that "he has mastered this champion" stuff is completely subjective and you can't objectively judge it. Who's better, a Vlad who only spams Q or a Vlad who knows how to place every skills of E R and W but wins less? Maybe spamming Q is more optimal? Really, Gmanbob is nowhere near a top list even with Xin. Rest of the post reeks of fanboy and antifanboy and completely lacks objectiveness, but I'll just say that he doesn't play Xin like a 2100 player nor does HSGG play Xin like a 2100 elo player. I assume gingerbrown for trynd is a joke, how about BellaFlica, instead? | ||
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BlackPaladin
United States9316 Posts
Gbob is a good player, and a really good Xin that would make a decent role model for people looking to learn Xin. In solo q he doesn't even try. Doesn't pay attention to the team; just listens to music and chats with people asking questions on irc and whatnot. I think your analysis is just when you watch him play solo q when he's probably sitting in his boxers eating some soup. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2011 20:06 BlackPaladin wrote: LOLOLOL Shikyo be trolling. Gbob is a good player, and a really good Xin that would make a decent role model for people looking to learn Xin. In solo q he doesn't even try. Doesn't pay attention to the team; just listens to music and chats with people asking questions on irc and whatnot. I think your analysis is just when you watch him play solo q when he's probably sitting in his boxers eating some soup. It's of both soloq and all his tournament games with Xin zhao I've seen but you can point me to the tournament games where his xin impresses Despite eating making playing difficult, sitting in boxers really shouldn't affect anything. But yeah when the Kakasoul account that Hotshot uses mostly to troll and try stuff, and even just throws games sometimes when koreans are in his games, and it STILL is 2238 elo, it is just absolutely blind and ridiculous to say his Xin is 2100 elo. | ||
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Kaniol
Poland5551 Posts
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On May 14 2011 20:21 Kaniol wrote: Hello, i'm Shikyo and i try to remind everyone why people here just ignore my posts. I'm not sure why do you act like an asshole just because i said that Bob knows Xin better than Hotshot. HotshotGG ranked games played as Xin: 65 Kakasoul ranked games played as Xin: 58. Guardsman Bob ranked games played as Xin: 2260. Yeah, surely Bob has absolute zero experience as Xin, while Hotshot with his awesome SOTD+wit's end+PD+ lots of attack speed with 0 survivability-i-melt-in-1-second is the one player who you should mimic while playing Xin. I think you got my post kinda wrong, i'm not hotshot's antifanboy, i think he is one of the best players nowadays, together with jiji, reginald, chauster and many others. And Bob is waaay behind in skill level compared to these players. This doesn't change the fact that Hotshot's Xin play is far from optimal, while Bob's Xin play and experience - at least in the laning phase - is just impressive. You can try to boost your e-peen all you want and argue for the sake arguing, but please stop posting wrong info, we don't want new players to look for builds of wrong players when learing how to play, helping other TLers improve is more important than proving you're right mr. "I am stuck in Elo hell QQ" By that logic we should have the 1400 elos with 5000-5000 winloss ratios on the top of the lists. Games played shouldn't be meaningful in any other way than negatively, in that the player hasn't been able to improve despite playing so many games. We obviously have pretty differing opinions about when a player is good with a champion. For instance just now, Hotshot on Kakasoul absolutely crushed like 5+ 2200 elo games with Anivia despite playing her very little to none with some very sick walls and nice moves included. Some people don't need to play 1000+ games with a champion to be good at them. GMB actually used a no-survivability build vs Solomid, although to be fair he was disced that game. And it seems like you forgot that it'd be a toplist, not a learn-to-play list. I'd recommend the solomid.net guides section for that. Heh, seems like his current build is Wits -> Bloodrazor. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Anyway, some suggestions~ Ashe: TL ezpzlmnsqz (Chauster, Bigfatjiji) Heimerdinger: (Dan Dinh, saintvicious) Karma: (HotshotGG) Karthus: ScarletDoom, xsliepnir (pdiz) Malzahar: (HotshotGG, Reginald) Olaf: whatsupchan (TheOddOne) Ryze: (sxspp, Reginald) Singed: Saintvicious, Samsterlicious, Dyrus, loveinabottle (Samsterlicious quit, and I wouldn't put loveinabottle up there, personally.) Trundle: saintvicious (DontMashMe) | ||
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phyvo
United States5635 Posts
He feels like he's been left behind in every aspect of the game possible. | ||
MoonBear
Straight outta Johto18973 Posts
On May 14 2011 21:12 phyvo wrote: Some gosu please carry yourself to 2100 with Kog Maw so I can stop showing up at my friend's doorsteps weeping miserably after I play him. He feels like he's been left behind in every aspect of the game possible. Kog'Maw is getting buffs to improve his quality, don't worry. | ||
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