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Shikyo
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Finland33997 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 00:59:07
April 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#13601
Just got my first loss against bots.

Surrender vote

I only did it for first win of the day. Get complete morons, I'm 25-0 when team scores are 43-45. Somehow we still manage to "win, we killed 2 inhibs and nexus was almost dead. Then my team surrenders.

50 minutes wasted. wtf
League of Legends EU West, Platinum III | Yousei Teikoku is the best thing that has ever happened to music.
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 30 2011 00:56 GMT
#13602
TSM looking strong...
They practice/scrim a shitton.
Slowly becoming favorites imoimo.
ModeratorFor the Glory that is TeamLiquid (-9 | 155) | Discord: NeoIllusions#1984
0123456789
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3216 Posts
April 30 2011 00:57 GMT
#13603
Taric mid, euro playstyle. Vlad bot, euro playstyle. Ashe jungle, euro playstyle. High 5 euro playstyle.
Chrispy
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada5878 Posts
April 30 2011 01:00 GMT
#13604
Yesssss Gman bob is streaming vs OGB. http://www.own3d.tv/live/34046/CLGaming.net_-_Guardsman_Bob

Yeah TSM looks really really good. Very good. Regi just seems like a very good leader and they all seem really dedicated.

We're playing vs them tomorrow in the go4lol monthly finals, should be... fun? Lol.
Retvrn to Forvms
NeoIllusions
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
United States37500 Posts
April 30 2011 01:06 GMT
#13605
On April 30 2011 10:00 Chrispy wrote:
Yesssss Gman bob is streaming vs OGB. http://www.own3d.tv/live/34046/CLGaming.net_-_Guardsman_Bob

Yeah TSM looks really really good. Very good. Regi just seems like a very good leader and they all seem really dedicated.

We're playing vs them tomorrow in the go4lol monthly finals, should be... fun? Lol.


I think the dedication is what makes them good as a team. Just a month or two ago, they still looked like Team Solo Q. But they grind and talk things out constantly. Results are starting to show.
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emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 30 2011 01:27 GMT
#13606
Interesting, I've never seen a solomid warwick before... wonder how he'll do against ryze
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Senx
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Sweden5901 Posts
April 30 2011 01:43 GMT
#13607
Nunu bot skin is REAL
"trash micro but win - its marine" MC commentary during HSC 4
emperorchampion
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
Canada9496 Posts
April 30 2011 01:46 GMT
#13608
Also, hotshot commentating TSM vs OP (I think) http://clgaming.net/live/565
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HazMat
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States17077 Posts
April 30 2011 01:58 GMT
#13609
Hotshot don't know bout dat jungle malz.
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Tooplark
Profile Joined October 2008
United States3977 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 03:45:05
April 30 2011 02:48 GMT
#13610
I would like it to be on the record that I pioneered jungle Malzahar when he was considered bad.
They all said I was crazy.

I don't know enough about gragas to write a guide, but here's what I've been doing:
+ Show Spoiler +
As any TLer who's played with me recently can attest, my fatman is one of the heaviest out there. I still feel qualified to comment on some things that do and don't work as Gragas.
First, after the nerfs, Grag has a much weaker lategame. He also is only mediocre early. Body Slam does a lot of damage, and Drunken Rage is a great damage boost, but you lose solo top to most of the new champs.

My preferred skillorder at this time is EWQ R>Q>W>E. E gains the least from levelups and W doesn't help your tankiness as much until you have some actual health.
Right now, since gragas is fairly weak solo top and needs items for survivability (i.e. don't duo), he can either roam/counterjungle with his high early damage and mobility or solo anyways. I prefer roaming because it's more fun.
I also usually build tank instead of AP. AP Gragas bores me.
I open Doran's Shield most of the time, though I've been considering a ruby crystal start.
I get another DShield if I'm doing poorly; otherwise I get Lucidity boots and Spirit Visage. Gragas greatly benefits from CDR. From there I've been messing around with a lot of things. Randuins is still okayish on Gragas and Warmogs isn't bad either. Like any tanky build it has to be adapted to your opponents.
When straying from tankier items, Triforce is a fun option that boosts your chasing and damaging power. Other DPS items aren't particularly great, except Atmas after you have 5 other items.
I spend about half my time dicking around in enemy jungle, a quarter of it tossing barrels at the enemy mid, and a quarter actually laning. I then hope my team lets me farm a bit to catch up in levels. Body Slamming through walls makes you really hard to take down in jungle and does a lot of damage when there aren't any creeps nearby.


My favorite gragas discovery: if you're fast you can channel Drunken Rage WHILE Body Slamming. Either smartcast E and hit W at the same time or E->click+W. If you're fast enough, level 1 body slam will actually absorb the entire channel duration.
WHAT POW'R ART THOU WHO FROM BELOW HAST MADE ME RISE UNWILLINGLY AND SLOW
WaveofShadow
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada31495 Posts
April 30 2011 03:57 GMT
#13611
Random Q:
Does anyone play SotIS?
Worth checking out/should I bother/etc?
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Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
April 30 2011 04:35 GMT
#13612
SotIS is fun, but completely uncompetitive. Worth playing for the lulz when you got some spare time.
Dezzimal
Profile Joined April 2009
United States148 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 04:59:56
April 30 2011 04:59 GMT
#13613
From what I've heard, Space Battles is a more fun investment of your time than SotIS.
UniversalSnip
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
9871 Posts
April 30 2011 05:52 GMT
#13614
jungle xin 21/0/9

start vamp scepter and W

Bot pulls double golems for you, if they do this you don't need to smite them. Wraiths (smite), wolves, red, gank

On April 30 2011 11:48 Tooplark wrote:My favorite gragas discovery: if you're fast you can channel Drunken Rage WHILE Body Slamming. Either smartcast E and hit W at the same time or E->click+W. If you're fast enough, level 1 body slam will actually absorb the entire channel duration.


Holy shit that's sick
"How fucking dare you defile the sanctity of DotA with your fucking casual plebian terminology? May the curse of Gaben and Volvo be upon you. le filthy casual."
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
April 30 2011 06:58 GMT
#13615
On April 30 2011 07:44 unichan wrote:
I did it with all arpen reds/quints yellow armorr (cause I don't have atkspd)
1/14/15 cause I do all my jungle except nunu like that cause idk
and Q start because I didn't know what to pick so I just picked something
and got blue level 1 no leash and did the rest ez np idk thoughh
honestly I was just doing random stuff since I'm not very knowledgeable about jungle, goes to show that he ez OP jungle nao

doing all arpen runes is not optimal when youre jungling. the armor reduc cap is at 10 iirc and after that the best stat is attackspeed.
In the woods, there lurks..
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 30 2011 07:13 GMT
#13616
what.

Buffs have 24 armor. Neutrals have 12.
Iplaythings
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Denmark9110 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-04-30 07:17:27
April 30 2011 07:15 GMT
#13617
On April 30 2011 16:13 dnastyx wrote:
what.

Buffs have 24 armor. Neutrals have 12.

okay i heard that wrong, >_> 12 arpen here i go.

Still AS is often stronger on champs who doesnt have abillities which does AD damage
In the woods, there lurks..
StuffedTurkey
Profile Joined May 2010
United States859 Posts
April 30 2011 07:24 GMT
#13618
On April 30 2011 16:13 dnastyx wrote:
what.

Buffs have 24 armor. Neutrals have 12.

also blue wraith has 35
You can't milk those!
zalz
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Netherlands3704 Posts
April 30 2011 08:01 GMT
#13619
On April 30 2011 10:27 emperorchampion wrote:
Interesting, I've never seen a solomid warwick before... wonder how he'll do against ryze


Mid Warwick is actually suprisingly strong. I faced off against one as a Ryze and for the life of me i could not stop him. Also the only mid-WW i ever saw but he was just raping faces all the time.

I was spamming Q to harass and W if i thought he was going for me but no matter what i did a single Q quikly recovered any and all damage i could deal. Sooner or later you start to face mana problems and that Warwick just keeps pounding your life away.

I also recall he was too fast to keep off me. Maybe he rushed Mercs but at a certain point he could run at me, i cast W, and he would still outrun me and Q-hit.


I think that's the only person that ever gave me a resounding defeat on mid. Ryze is an average mid, good against some, horrible against others, but if a warwick can defeat Ryze he can defeat a lot of champs on mid.


Also, i fucking loathe Karthus. If you don't stop him he free-farms his ass off and roflstomps your entire team. To stop him you have to fight him. Karthus is an absolute beasts and wrecks just about every champ. Karthus just demands that you fight him and otherwise he wins simply by farming because that is all the gold he needs to win the game. His mana bar never runs out and all the time you that damn Q spam thrown at you. He literally doesn't have to stop casting it, his mana just never goes out.

If you gank him once or twice then he has a horrible game but that is still easier said then done. Karthus is still the biggest pain to face on mid imo.
dnastyx
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States2707 Posts
April 30 2011 08:15 GMT
#13620
On April 30 2011 16:24 StuffedTurkey wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 30 2011 16:13 dnastyx wrote:
what.

Buffs have 24 armor. Neutrals have 12.

also blue wraith has 35


Dat lifesteal
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