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Jaksiel
United States4130 Posts
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:08 Shikyo wrote: Really? I disagree(Janna + Alistar + 2.5 dps, not enough deeps to kill 3 tanky deeps), but yeah they got outplayed as well. Also yeah I don't get why doublelift would play Alistar, he can only play like.. Blitz and Irelia. Their plan seemed just to be get to lategame in shape. I don't understand where Irelia OP lategame came from, she feels like singed: weakish 1-6, strong midgame, only decent lategame. Sion falls off somewhat lategame. Olaf is really strong once he's farmed. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:12 HazMat wrote: Sorry was talking to people bro. Alright time to argue with Europeans. Not sure if you could tell but Doublelift completely failed that game. He didn't land headbutts, didn't counter jungle, and his teamfighting was also terrible. They lost the baron fight and the game because he ended up using his pulvarize on fucking Amumu who just ended up flash -> bandage > ulti. I can't believe you're comparing Irelia to Ashe when they have Corki on their team. I do agree Janna + alistar not best choice, especially when sion is sidelaning and got first blood advantage because saint facechecked into 5 (lolwut) and got complete freefarm. But CLG didn't lose because of being outpicked, they got outplayed. Oh btw, the point was more about terrible lanes... Actually, I think Alistar solomid Ashe + Janna with Malzahar solo would have been totally fine. o.O I think they got kind of outpicked and yeah you're right, Doublelift failed alot. =P On April 02 2011 11:13 Nehsb wrote: Their plan seemed just to be get to lategame in shape. I don't understand where Irelia OP lategame came from, she feels like singed: weakish 1-6, strong midgame, only decent lategame. Sion falls off somewhat lategame. Olaf is really strong once he's farmed. Irelia's like one of the very hardest carries o.O esp with this tank meta | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
Actually, I think Alistar solomid Ashe + Janna with Malzahar solo would have been totally fine. Yeah, let me put that Alistar mid v Irelia. Owait | ||
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:15 Shikyo wrote: Irelia's like one of the very hardest carries o.O esp with this tank meta Could just be I've never seen a good Irelia, but irelia still gets killed pretty quickly lategame and is melee and countered by janna, etc. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:17 dnastyx wrote: What's wrong with that? Englighten me please. Yeah, let me put that Alistar mid v Irelia. Owait On April 02 2011 11:18 Nehsb wrote: Could just be I've never seen a good Irelia, but irelia still gets killed pretty quickly lategame and is melee and countered by janna, etc. Janna ulti -> blink in, janna slow -> over in 0.2 secs..knockup yeah. | ||
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WaveofShadow
Canada31495 Posts
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:20 Shikyo wrote: Could just be I've never seen a good Irelia, but irelia still gets killed pretty quickly lategame and is melee and countered by janna, etc. Janna ulti -> blink in, janna slow -> over in 0.2 secs..knockup yeah. [/QUOTE] Blinking in after janna ult doesn't let you get on ashe though. And ashe + malzahar will kill you fairly quickly. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:23 Nehsb wrote: Blinking in after janna ult doesn't let you get on ashe though. And ashe + malzahar will kill you fairly quickly. I have no idea how you build an irelia who dies quickly. learn to quote | ||
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:25 Shikyo wrote: Blinking in after janna ult doesn't let you get on ashe though. And ashe + malzahar will kill you fairly quickly. I have no idea how you build an irelia who dies quickly. [/QUOTE] Assuming your only damage is triforce, you still won't be tanky enough to not die in a few seconds at ~35 minutes. Edit: Going to calculate some numbers. | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
You're underestimating her ulti, I tested it on a minion wave at lvl 18 and it healed me for a total of 2400 CLG has a LOT nicer 3 picks this time. Irelia is banned, but Low Elo going for a similiar style of a lineup as in the last game - a lot of tankyness. Vlad is a new, interesting addition and Malphite to help Amumu pown teamfights. | ||
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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Nehsb
United States380 Posts
Ezreal! | ||
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myopia
United States2928 Posts
On April 02 2011 10:20 HazMat wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i.imgur.com/SbL1h.png) O spiderland you so silly. I couldn't win posting ridiculous KDA scores on WW, so this was the next logical step where is the justice | ||
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Misder
United States1557 Posts
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emperorchampion
Canada9496 Posts
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HazMat
United States17077 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:48 myopia wrote: I couldn't win posting ridiculous KDA scores on WW, so this was the next logical step where is the justice Yo you lost a Kat game. Still averaging 13 kills though. | ||
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dnastyx
United States2707 Posts
On April 02 2011 11:20 Shikyo wrote: What's wrong with that? Englighten me please. Janna ulti -> blink in, janna slow -> over in 0.2 secs..knockup yeah. Are you really that bad that you think cow can hold a lane v Irelia? Especially mid? Not to mention how worthless farm is on cow compared to Ashe, and how you want to lane ashe + janna v taric + sion. lol.... | ||
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barbsq
United States5348 Posts
the reason ppl dont play cow like this is that a) you can have 3 farm dependent champs in lanes getting all the farm they could ever want, b) roaming alistar is extremely potent, again touching on how well he allows his other teammates to farm, and c) ali without items is still a very dangerous champ tldr, ppl saying that farmed cow is worthless dont know what they talking about ps, janna/ashe lane is pretty damn strong too, certainly can compete with a taric/sion lane, they have a looot of kiting power and super long ranged dmg | ||
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Shikyo
Finland33997 Posts
On April 02 2011 12:01 dnastyx wrote: You didn't enlighten me at all, "it doesn't work because I say so" really doesn't cut it. Their lineup was what it was. How on earth does Irelia beat Alistar solo mid? Are you really that bad that you think cow can hold a lane v Irelia? Especially mid? Not to mention how worthless farm is on cow compared to Ashe, and how you want to lane ashe + janna v taric + sion. lol.... | ||
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