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Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:05:29
June 08 2009 23:32 GMT
#161
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King K. Rool
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada4408 Posts
June 09 2009 01:17 GMT
#162
On June 09 2009 08:32 Cali wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 04:07 KissBlade wrote:
It's ironic that one of the biggest US propaganda's and brainwashing campaigns has been to paint the picture that the Chinese government brainwashes and force feeds information to it's citizens. The average Chinese citizen (urban) is not only quite knowledgeable about the Chinese politics but most likely more politically minded than the average American. Many Chinese are well aware of the shortcomings of the Chinese government. However, they feel for the most part the system works, standards of living are improving. Let's face it, anytime standards of living are improving in a country, people don't want change.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/China-Green-Dam-Filter,news-4048.html

How much do we over play it? I mean when you have big brother installed onto your computer and posting on an Internet culture website.

How does this prove the Chinese are ignorant? It seems to point the otherway since the CCP is trying to implement even stricter censoring.

I'm with KissBlade with this one. Pretty much all my relatives (country and urban, lower and high class) have talked about the government and have criticized it for various things. It's by no means perfect, and they know it. If change will happen, it'll be a slow thing.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
June 09 2009 01:55 GMT
#163
... Look at the absolute HORDES of inhouse Chinese nationalists coming to defend the utter dictatorship/autocratic police state that is China.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:08:06
June 09 2009 02:14 GMT
#164
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psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
June 09 2009 02:30 GMT
#165
I like the kids chiming in with their cute opinions here. Of course they've never been to china or talked to anyone from china or, really, know anything about anything, but it's a police state!
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 02:50:59
June 09 2009 02:50 GMT
#166
Well, actually, I feel much better in Beijing than in Paris. And in China, sometimes, I feel even more able to freespeech than in France. You can speak without caring about the racism BS. Yup, in France, skin color is taboo. :/
Oh yeah, in France, money is also taboo.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
Exteray
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States1094 Posts
June 09 2009 02:53 GMT
#167
Quote from OP: I just wish the actions of the chinese students 20 years ago will not forever be in vain. Hopefully some day China will experience a 'proper' democracy and a free press.

Well said, exactly my thoughts.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
June 09 2009 02:57 GMT
#168
Is it an obligation to have Democracy ?
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
chaoser
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States5541 Posts
June 09 2009 03:05 GMT
#169
On June 09 2009 11:30 psion0011 wrote:
I like the kids chiming in with their cute opinions here. Of course they've never been to china or talked to anyone from china or, really, know anything about anything, but it's a police state!


have you been to china? have you read extensive articles about this? have you ever been "policed" by china? i'm not saying i'm on any side of this argument but unless you're able to back your own stance up don't knock down others. The subject of china and it's government is a lot more complex than "omg police state" or even "large numbers=democracy not possible". Try to get both sides of the argument before coming to preconceived notions of how the government and people china actually work. coming into any argument with a closed mind means there's no discussion to be had, just two sides butting heads.
Haven't you heard? I'm not an ex-progamer. I'm not a poker player. I'm not an admin of the site. I'm mother fucking Rekrul.
Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:08:24
June 09 2009 03:12 GMT
#170
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rei
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3594 Posts
June 09 2009 03:13 GMT
#171
On June 09 2009 10:55 orgolove wrote:
... Look at the absolute HORDES of inhouse Chinese nationalists coming to defend the utter dictatorship/autocratic police state that is China.


I attack i don't defend.

On June 09 2009 11:53 Exteray wrote:
Quote from OP: I just wish the actions of the chinese students 20 years ago will not forever be in vain. Hopefully some day China will experience a 'proper' democracy and a free press.

Well said, exactly my thoughts.


Fuck democracy and free press, all hypocritical mother fucking bullshit.

On June 08 2009 11:07 rei wrote:

Free speech? fuck free speech, we got no free speech in the united states. I can't even say Creationism is fucking BS to my students, where's the free speech now, and I'm in the United Fucking States. I got in the trouble for telling a student he can't use the word nigger because it is reserved for people who experienced extreme racism done against them, and when they use it, it signifies comradity of the abused.

Human right? WTF is human right if they can be taken away? WWII Japanese concentration camp? where's our Human right now? Every human is created equal? says who? the fucking slave owners trying to be free from the British controls, so they can continue to own their niggers?

Why do China WANT a hypocritical system name democracy? China at least aren't hypocrites in their policy yet.

GET OUT OF MY BASE CHILL
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
June 09 2009 03:26 GMT
#172
Im pretty sure you can talk about skin color because you can be racist/callas in China as long as it's not against your fellow China man


well, maybe. But in many french schools, if the teacher say something to a "colored" student, he/she will automatically be called racist.
This is absurd :/
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 05:19:44
June 09 2009 05:18 GMT
#173
On June 09 2009 12:12 Cali wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 11:50 MK wrote:
Well, actually, I feel much better in Beijing than in Paris. And in China, sometimes, I feel even more able to freespeech than in France. You can speak without caring about the racism BS. Yup, in France, skin color is taboo. :/
Oh yeah, in France, money is also taboo.

Im pretty sure you can talk about skin color because you can be racist/callas in China as long as it's not against your fellow China man



... Are you serious? Because once again you prove how little you really know about China with your whole "All Chinese are the same" mindset. People from Shanghai for example will always trash talk about Fuxian hicks, just like how something from the south will make comments about people from the North. It's the same thing like the US how some New Yorkers think of the bible belt as uneducated hicks and vice versa. I don't even want to know where you get the kidnapping people at night and putting them in labor camp idea from but at this point I'm not sure if I'm just feeding a troll.
MK
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States496 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 06:09:12
June 09 2009 06:08 GMT
#174
On June 09 2009 14:18 KissBlade wrote:
... Are you serious? Because once again you prove how little you really know about China with your whole "All Chinese are the same" mindset. People from Shanghai for example will always trash talk about Fuxian hicks, just like how something from the south will make comments about people from the North. It's the same thing like the US how some New Yorkers think of the bible belt as uneducated hicks and vice versa. I don't even want to know where you get the kidnapping people at night and putting them in labor camp idea from but at this point I'm not sure if I'm just feeding a troll.


LOL it reminds my fighting with my gf. She's pro-HK and I'm pro-BJ :p Ahah, BJ, SH and HK are the worst enemies ever ahah

PS : Fujian is good. Top students are all from FJ.
The highest knowledge is to know that we are surrounded by mystery
Cali
Profile Joined May 2009
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-12 19:08:54
June 09 2009 06:52 GMT
#175
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Carnivorous Sheep
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Baa?21248 Posts
June 09 2009 07:49 GMT
#176
On June 09 2009 15:08 MK wrote:
Ahah, BJ, SH and HK are the worst enemies ever ahah


Lol, so true...
TranslatorBaa!
psion0011
Profile Joined December 2008
Canada720 Posts
June 09 2009 10:46 GMT
#177
On June 09 2009 12:05 chaoser wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 11:30 psion0011 wrote:
I like the kids chiming in with their cute opinions here. Of course they've never been to china or talked to anyone from china or, really, know anything about anything, but it's a police state!


have you been to china? have you read extensive articles about this? have you ever been "policed" by china? i'm not saying i'm on any side of this argument but unless you're able to back your own stance up don't knock down others. The subject of china and it's government is a lot more complex than "omg police state" or even "large numbers=democracy not possible". Try to get both sides of the argument before coming to preconceived notions of how the government and people china actually work. coming into any argument with a closed mind means there's no discussion to be had, just two sides butting heads.

Uh, yes, of course? I have a lot of family there and visit from time to time. Pretty much the chillest place ever.
azndsh
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4447 Posts
June 09 2009 11:04 GMT
#178
LONG LIVE COMMUNISM

IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF DEMOCRACY AND 10 TIMES BETTER
MasterOfChaos
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Germany2896 Posts
June 09 2009 11:41 GMT
#179
The sad thing is while our politicians (rightly) criticize China for its censorship etc we are heading the same way.
LiquipediaOne eye to kill. Two eyes to live.
KissBlade
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States5718 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-09 14:54:32
June 09 2009 14:53 GMT
#180
On June 09 2009 15:52 Cali wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 09 2009 14:18 KissBlade wrote:
On June 09 2009 12:12 Cali wrote:
On June 09 2009 11:50 MK wrote:
Well, actually, I feel much better in Beijing than in Paris. And in China, sometimes, I feel even more able to freespeech than in France. You can speak without caring about the racism BS. Yup, in France, skin color is taboo. :/
Oh yeah, in France, money is also taboo.

Im pretty sure you can talk about skin color because you can be racist/callas in China as long as it's not against your fellow China man



... Are you serious? Because once again you prove how little you really know about China with your whole "All Chinese are the same" mindset. People from Shanghai for example will always trash talk about Fuxian hicks, just like how something from the south will make comments about people from the North. It's the same thing like the US how some New Yorkers think of the bible belt as uneducated hicks and vice versa. I don't even want to know where you get the kidnapping people at night and putting them in labor camp idea from but at this point I'm not sure if I'm just feeding a troll.

Lol We call our own country men hick that makes what we say alright. Obviously your logic is flawless.


Where in the world did I say it's alright? I just said that your idea that all Chinese think the same of each other is ridiculous. I swear I'm going to stop feeding the troll now.

PS. SH >>>> All!! ^_^
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