20 years since Tiananmen - Page 9
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Cali
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King K. Rool
Canada4408 Posts
On June 09 2009 08:32 Cali wrote: http://www.tomsguide.com/us/China-Green-Dam-Filter,news-4048.html How much do we over play it? I mean when you have big brother installed onto your computer and posting on an Internet culture website. How does this prove the Chinese are ignorant? It seems to point the otherway since the CCP is trying to implement even stricter censoring. I'm with KissBlade with this one. Pretty much all my relatives (country and urban, lower and high class) have talked about the government and have criticized it for various things. It's by no means perfect, and they know it. If change will happen, it'll be a slow thing. | ||
orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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Cali
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psion0011
Canada720 Posts
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MK
United States496 Posts
Oh yeah, in France, money is also taboo. | ||
Exteray
United States1094 Posts
Well said, exactly my thoughts. | ||
MK
United States496 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On June 09 2009 11:30 psion0011 wrote: I like the kids chiming in with their cute opinions here. Of course they've never been to china or talked to anyone from china or, really, know anything about anything, but it's a police state! have you been to china? have you read extensive articles about this? have you ever been "policed" by china? i'm not saying i'm on any side of this argument but unless you're able to back your own stance up don't knock down others. The subject of china and it's government is a lot more complex than "omg police state" or even "large numbers=democracy not possible". Try to get both sides of the argument before coming to preconceived notions of how the government and people china actually work. coming into any argument with a closed mind means there's no discussion to be had, just two sides butting heads. | ||
Cali
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rei
United States3594 Posts
On June 09 2009 10:55 orgolove wrote: ... Look at the absolute HORDES of inhouse Chinese nationalists coming to defend the utter dictatorship/autocratic police state that is China. I attack i don't defend. On June 09 2009 11:53 Exteray wrote: Quote from OP: I just wish the actions of the chinese students 20 years ago will not forever be in vain. Hopefully some day China will experience a 'proper' democracy and a free press. Well said, exactly my thoughts. Fuck democracy and free press, all hypocritical mother fucking bullshit. On June 08 2009 11:07 rei wrote: Free speech? fuck free speech, we got no free speech in the united states. I can't even say Creationism is fucking BS to my students, where's the free speech now, and I'm in the United Fucking States. I got in the trouble for telling a student he can't use the word nigger because it is reserved for people who experienced extreme racism done against them, and when they use it, it signifies comradity of the abused. Human right? WTF is human right if they can be taken away? WWII Japanese concentration camp? where's our Human right now? Every human is created equal? says who? the fucking slave owners trying to be free from the British controls, so they can continue to own their niggers? Why do China WANT a hypocritical system name democracy? China at least aren't hypocrites in their policy yet. | ||
MK
United States496 Posts
Im pretty sure you can talk about skin color because you can be racist/callas in China as long as it's not against your fellow China man well, maybe. But in many french schools, if the teacher say something to a "colored" student, he/she will automatically be called racist. This is absurd :/ | ||
KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On June 09 2009 12:12 Cali wrote: Im pretty sure you can talk about skin color because you can be racist/callas in China as long as it's not against your fellow China man ![]() ... Are you serious? Because once again you prove how little you really know about China with your whole "All Chinese are the same" mindset. People from Shanghai for example will always trash talk about Fuxian hicks, just like how something from the south will make comments about people from the North. It's the same thing like the US how some New Yorkers think of the bible belt as uneducated hicks and vice versa. I don't even want to know where you get the kidnapping people at night and putting them in labor camp idea from but at this point I'm not sure if I'm just feeding a troll. | ||
MK
United States496 Posts
On June 09 2009 14:18 KissBlade wrote: ... Are you serious? Because once again you prove how little you really know about China with your whole "All Chinese are the same" mindset. People from Shanghai for example will always trash talk about Fuxian hicks, just like how something from the south will make comments about people from the North. It's the same thing like the US how some New Yorkers think of the bible belt as uneducated hicks and vice versa. I don't even want to know where you get the kidnapping people at night and putting them in labor camp idea from but at this point I'm not sure if I'm just feeding a troll. LOL it reminds my fighting with my gf. She's pro-HK and I'm pro-BJ :p Ahah, BJ, SH and HK are the worst enemies ever ahah PS : Fujian is good. Top students are all from FJ. | ||
Cali
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Carnivorous Sheep
Baa?21243 Posts
On June 09 2009 15:08 MK wrote: Ahah, BJ, SH and HK are the worst enemies ever ahah Lol, so true... | ||
psion0011
Canada720 Posts
On June 09 2009 12:05 chaoser wrote: have you been to china? have you read extensive articles about this? have you ever been "policed" by china? i'm not saying i'm on any side of this argument but unless you're able to back your own stance up don't knock down others. The subject of china and it's government is a lot more complex than "omg police state" or even "large numbers=democracy not possible". Try to get both sides of the argument before coming to preconceived notions of how the government and people china actually work. coming into any argument with a closed mind means there's no discussion to be had, just two sides butting heads. Uh, yes, of course? I have a lot of family there and visit from time to time. Pretty much the chillest place ever. | ||
azndsh
United States4447 Posts
IT'S THE OPPOSITE OF DEMOCRACY AND 10 TIMES BETTER | ||
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MasterOfChaos
Germany2896 Posts
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KissBlade
United States5718 Posts
On June 09 2009 15:52 Cali wrote: Lol We call our own country men hick that makes what we say alright. Obviously your logic is flawless. Where in the world did I say it's alright? I just said that your idea that all Chinese think the same of each other is ridiculous. I swear I'm going to stop feeding the troll now. PS. SH >>>> All!! ^_^ | ||
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