EPT...WTF?
Epidemy with Mexico - Page 17
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littlechava
United States7221 Posts
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JohnColtrane
Australia4813 Posts
but what are those other deaths attributable then, if not to swine flu? assuming there was actually those 100+ deaths | ||
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CoL_DarkstaR
Germany649 Posts
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NovaTheFeared
United States7232 Posts
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zatic
Zurich15366 Posts
On April 28 2009 16:25 zatic wrote: Yo guys this is just SARS2: Good way to get people's minds off a global recession that will hurt each one individually 100x more than a couple of dead pigs somewhere. Dun dun dun. | ||
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XoXiDe
United States620 Posts
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PaeZ
Mexico1627 Posts
Just in the capital 4 pneumology residents died with confirmation of having the swine flu, the government hasnt said anything about it obviously... | ||
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Maenander
Germany4927 Posts
On April 29 2009 23:58 NovaTheFeared wrote: The WHO number is a lagging indicator because lab confirmation takes time. The number of deaths and illnesses attributed to the disease is always going to be greater than the current official lab-confirmed number. In a city like Mexico DF a lot of deaths will happen everyday. During a panic like this one, a lot of deaths will be misattributed to swine flu without any lab confirmation. That´s what probably happened. Of course international organizations and our governments should prepare for a pandemic nonetheless, but I think the probability that this virus will cause one is quite low. | ||
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ReTr0[p.S]
Argentina1590 Posts
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yooh
China223 Posts
My friend told me these things so I just thought maybe it'll give bring relief for yooh guys cus I'm still scared as hell  | ||
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LaLuSh
Sweden2358 Posts
On April 30 2009 05:32 yooh wrote: I kno I said that I'm realyyyyyyyy scared about this whole thing cus it just hit Ontario, but why are yooh guys so worried? People have already survived it so it's not exactly gonna be a "pandemic". ANDDD isn't it better to just get it and survive it so yooh don't hafto worry anymore?? My friend told me these things so I just thought maybe it'll give bring relief for yooh guys cus I'm still scared as hell Doesn't have to kill to be called a pandemic. But based on your spelling I can't say I really expected you to have a clue about the definition of pandemic. | ||
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Quanticfograw
United States2053 Posts
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suffeli
Finland772 Posts
h1n1 live map There seems to be a lot open questions on this virus. Washing your hands frequently and not fondling any sexy mexicans would be a good idea. Those face masks won't help much(although they can help you when someone is sneezing near you) so buying them is a waste of money. I would use common sense and not to panic (yet). | ||
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QuanticHawk
United States32159 Posts
On April 29 2009 22:53 oneofthem wrote: that's how the flu usually works. it is irresponsible for an er nurse to not take vaccination. i don't know what she's thinking it sounds like she's posting on a crackpot forum, maybe that's why Hey, maybe she got sick because it's a dying, dumbed down version of the real thing so her body can get immunity, but what the fuck do I know? Dipshits like that shouldn't have jobs. | ||
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BreaK
Canada890 Posts
Oh, she went down for work related stuff. When she came back she felt sick, but thought it was just a cold or something. Then it got worse and now she's at the hospital. She was feeling better today, but it's pretty scary. | ||
mikeymoo
Canada7170 Posts
On April 30 2009 12:30 BreaK wrote: I just found that my mom is one of the possible confirmed cases in Canada (Ontario). She just got back from Mexico around last friday. She gets her test results back in the next couple days. Oh, she went down for work related stuff. When she came back she felt sick, but thought it was just a cold or something. Then it got worse and now she's at the hospital. She was feeling better today, but it's pretty scary. !!! Oh man... | ||
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ShloobeR
Korea (South)3851 Posts
On April 30 2009 07:25 suffeli wrote: This map seems to be accurate if you wanna follow the outbreak. We got already one suspected patient in Finland. h1n1 live map There seems to be a lot open questions on this virus. Washing your hands frequently and not fondling any sexy mexicans would be a good idea. Those face masks won't help much(although they can help you when someone is sneezing near you) so buying them is a waste of money. I would use common sense and not to panic (yet). Wow could this map blow this out of proportion any more? there is one 'suspected' case in Europe with over 300 'probable' cases. they need to define what 'probable' means because for now it just seems like 'being tested' is being marked as 'probable' | ||
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MaZza[KIS]
Australia2110 Posts
On April 30 2009 01:37 Maenander wrote: In a city like Mexico DF a lot of deaths will happen everyday. During a panic like this one, a lot of deaths will be misattributed to swine flu without any lab confirmation. That´s what probably happened. Of course international organizations and our governments should prepare for a pandemic nonetheless, but I think the probability that this virus will cause one is quite low. and you say this using what scientific model? A friend of mine (quite coincidentally) is doing a masters and he chose to do his modelling component on influenza. As the model is just finished (and has been confirmed by inputting other data with known measured results) he put the swine flu data thorough his model. Using a population size of 100,000 it took 8 people to start the epidemic. In just under 25 days approx 60-70% (cant remember the exact number) of the population was infected and in the end (as the curve drops off and people develop immunity, get treated, etc. etc.) 700 ended up dead. That's 700 out of 100,000 population. Now, the scary thing is that he didn't include mutation or re-infection in his model. Basically, his "best case" scenario model (just get sick, develop immunity/get treated, live/die) predicts 700 deaths for a 100,000 population. Imagine the problem compounded with todays urbanised societies/ Scientifically, yes, we are f*cked if this thing spreads... and it's going to spread QUICK unless appropriate containment measures are put in place. Hence why the panic from WHO. Why is this flu so bad? Because it's infectivity rate is so efficient (very low probability of being immune and good infection mechanism)... compound that with the population density of places like Mexico and New York; add in air travel and you've got a pandemic. I'm not saying to flip the script, but you should definitely be concerned... cover your mouth when you cough and/or sneeze and wash your hands thoroughly. With a little bit of care this thing won't spread and we'll be OK. We'll probably be ok anyways, but I'm sure you don't want to be in the dead statistic.... The last thing I'd worry about are conspiracy theories about the state of the economy. They could have just as easily had Michael Jackson rape another kid. | ||
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TT1
Canada10094 Posts
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BalliSLife
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