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Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
May 03 2009 14:46 GMT
#181
On May 01 2009 15:24 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
This thread it the worst thing to happen to procrastinators since lolcats and demotivation pictures.

????????????????????
funnybananaman
Profile Joined April 2009
United States830 Posts
May 03 2009 16:43 GMT
#182
god dammit why do people care so much about this woman?? so she can sing. so what?
SuperJongMan
Profile Blog Joined March 2003
Jamaica11586 Posts
May 03 2009 17:43 GMT
#183
GOD that Hollie Steel girl is adorable.
Whoa~~
POWER OVERWHELMING ! ! ! KRUU~ KRUU~
Incognitodies
Profile Joined April 2008
United Kingdom184 Posts
May 04 2009 15:36 GMT
#184
I must say that despite actually living in the UK I didn't give this show a second thought until I read this thread.

+ Show Spoiler +
loooooooooooooool
Pyrthas
Profile Joined March 2007
United States3196 Posts
May 05 2009 13:59 GMT
#185
On May 03 2009 23:28 BroOd wrote:
Wow. Even if he doesn't win anything, that was a really nice moment.

Agreed. I hope he finds a way to overcome his stage fright; he deserves to have more opportunities to sing, and it seems like he was the main thing holding him back.
SnowFantasy
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
4173 Posts
May 05 2009 15:15 GMT
#186


wat.
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
May 05 2009 15:22 GMT
#187
On May 06 2009 00:15 SnowFantasy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DlF3zAE2s

wat.


The best part was Simon laughing. Lol.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 05 2009 15:26 GMT
#188
On May 06 2009 00:15 SnowFantasy wrote:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0DlF3zAE2s

wat.



there are seems to be one maniac group leader in these group failures, and a few tag-alongs. They don't seem to ask themselves who they can actually beat, if anyone.
Garnet
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Vietnam9047 Posts
May 05 2009 15:30 GMT
#189
Best one from Show 4 (I think):

Railxp
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Hong Kong1313 Posts
May 07 2009 13:49 GMT
#190
Different Perspective:
Article Source: http://thelastpsychiatrist.com/2009/04/yeah_well_cry_me_a_river.html#more

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I can assume everyone has seen the clip of Susan Boyle singing I Dream A Dream on Britain's Got Talent.

Everyone loves an underdog. Everyone loves a high horse, too: "take that, you prejudicial prigs, who expect a good voice to only come out of slinky blondes with belly rings."

Myself, I don't expect it only out of slinky blondes, though I'll admit I like it better. But despite my fascination with slinky blondes, I have never bothered to find one that sang on Youtube. My lust cannot be monetized.

I did, however, against all better judgment, go look for this clip. And there's the rub.

Let's step back and ask some questions:

1. Is it really surprising to anyone that a 47 year old woman can have a great voice? (Opera, Aretha Franklin, etc?)
2. Is it surprising to anyone that an overweight or homely woman can have a great voice? (Madonna, Coldplay, etc? (Zing!))


No. Which brings me to the 3rd question:

3. Could it possibly be surprising to Simon Cowell? After seven years of Britain's Got 10p Text Messaging, he was suddenly caught off guard?

That I smell a rat is besides the point. My first instinct is that Simon had already heard her sing, or maybe even specifically recruited her to come for an audition because of her 1999 single Cry Me A River.

This doesn't take away from her ability-- she can sing a tune, that's for damn sure.

But what's relevant point here is what is being done to you. Regardless of whether Simon knew about her beforehand, her performance has now been packaged and marketed in a different way, specifically for you, based on what they know you like. This further reinforces those preferences on your part. In other words, they are giving you what you want, and training you to want the next thing.

Watch the clip, the editing, the story they are writing: how they contrast from shots of cynical audience members, then cut back and forth to the hosts and audience as they look on in amazement. That's all done after the fact. That's the performance. The live studio audience is legitimately impressed as it happens; but the Youtube viewers are compelled to be impressed by the slick Hollywood movie they are watching. If you had stumbled upon a clip of her singing into a webcam in her kitchen, you might say, "wow, whaddya know" and then gone back to porn or stock quotes. But when you are told "go see this (highly produced) clip" then you believe they hype. It's putting a $100 price tag on a bottle of wine, and therefore liking it more.

Britain's Got Talent isn't trying to eventually find the next winner so they can give them a record deal; it's trying to get viewers now, ad revenue, and text messages. You don't do that with another slinky blonde-- to sell records yes; but to get TV viewers no-- you do it with someone who is going to appeal to the show's demographic.

What you want is a shot of Simon-- the eye candy for the target demographic-- looking dreamy eyed.

It's not a talent show, it's a docudrama.

Let's peek at the meta-script's next act. Boyle's awesome, but where's the drama? Who is going to be her nemesis on the show? You might first consider a slinky blonde-- but that wouldn't work because it's not polarizing, there's no tug of war. You want someone who pulls at the same viewer who likes Boyle, but in a different way, to create inner tension.

In other words, you want a cute kid.

A 20 year old wants to love someone who ultimately wins and hate someone who eventually loses. A 40 year old wants to love two people, and be sad when it ends for one of them.

Part of this, as one clever reader emailed me, is that Boyle's story fits the theme of my favorite generation: even at 47, you could still possibly have your life activated and assume your rightful place in your movie. Not through hard work or perseverance, of course, but simply by being discovered.

"But hold on-- she did work hard to be able to sing that well!"

Sure-- but notice that's not part of this story that they are telling you. They deliberately emphasize her backwards, never been kissed, works in a diner persona. "Oh, I've just sung in my church choir." Really? Is that all?

She can be the undiscovered, "am I too old?" neglected talent; the kid can be the budding prodigy, "even if you lose kid, you're going to be a winner."

Undiscovered is the new porn.

To repeat: none of this detracts from Boyle's excellent voice, or her chance to make from this what she can. But do not think the gods smiled on Susan Boyle and, lo, she has been discovered.

Susan Boyle, plant or not, is a character in a well scripted movie, with the only theme that will get people to sit in front of the telly nowadays: everyone's a winner, unless they're a loser, and then they're winners, too. And 47 is no longer too late. Everything you see from now on will have been carefully scripted and choreographed.

Everything, that is, except the unfortunate crash that always seems to come at the end of these dramas. When everyone has to go back to real life.

And by everyone, I mean you.

~\(。◕‿‿◕。)/~,,,,,,,,>
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 07 2009 16:04 GMT
#191
On May 06 2009 00:30 Garnet wrote:
Best one from Show 4 (I think):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qMKw-A0hKjc


i don't think she's as good as everyone thinks she is
GogoKodo
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Canada1785 Posts
May 10 2009 05:16 GMT
#192
It's hard to tell how good she is because the back track has strings in it I think. Though her overall performance was good, she was very emotive and passionate with her playing so it made it more interesting.
twitter: @terrancem
Dave[9]
Profile Blog Joined October 2003
United States2365 Posts
May 10 2009 08:50 GMT
#193
I'm not in particularly a violinist, but I have listened to shit tons of people and I didn't find her performance very good. Her tone was off and she couldnt even play louder than her backtrack. A lof of mistakes were made in playing higher notes as well.

Hell she didn't even have a real violin.
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=104154&currentpage=316#6317
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
May 10 2009 09:44 GMT
#194
This show is pathetic.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
Bob123
Profile Joined October 2006
Korea (North)259 Posts
May 10 2009 10:22 GMT
#195
Those backstage guys are so annoying :S. I get a feeling of frustration every time i see them.
Zurles
Profile Joined February 2009
United Kingdom1659 Posts
May 10 2009 10:30 GMT
#196
On May 10 2009 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
This show is pathetic.


Would "France has talent" be better?
DukeNukem
Profile Joined May 2009
United States2 Posts
May 10 2009 10:32 GMT
#197
This thread is hilarious because it implies that british people have talents.
Im gonna kick ass and chew bubble gum, and Im all out of gum
Spinfusor
Profile Joined June 2007
Australia410 Posts
May 10 2009 10:41 GMT
#198
The violinist is very meh. There's plenty of people capable of playing better at half her age, e.g:


Hell, there's better 5 year olds:
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 10 2009 11:13 GMT
#199
On May 10 2009 19:32 DukeNukem wrote:
This thread is hilarious because it implies that british people have talents.

.........
Biff The Understudy
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
France8098 Posts
May 10 2009 11:17 GMT
#200
On May 10 2009 19:30 Zurles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2009 18:44 Biff The Understudy wrote:
This show is pathetic.


Would "France has talent" be better?

No.

We have Star Academy which is not better. Just thinking about theses kind of crap, I feel like pucking.
The fellow who is out to burn things up is the counterpart of the fool who thinks he can save the world. The world needs neither to be burned up nor to be saved. The world is, we are. Transients, if we buck it; here to stay if we accept it. ~H.Miller
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