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Floodgate
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MK
United States496 Posts
I don't see any problem when Klaz asks for help. I find it pretty cool that people actually helped him : it shows how important the community can have and this is really the beauty of it. And finally, the "rule" of the game was : get votes and be published, right ? I assume many authors have requested their family or friends to help them. Klaz has more friends than these people, that's all (and he asks help officially -on youtube so you can't make it more official-). | ||
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Floodgate
10 Posts
Yes, the rules of the site include getting votes, of family and friends amongst others. But the rules, as set up by authonomy, are also that some votes count more than others. So that sweetie who said 'why don't all you old ppl have a heart attack and die' doesn't carry the same weight as someone who's stuck around and done some work. Oh, and to those who advised me earlier, thanks again - I've ordered Starcraft with Brood Wars from Amazon - a whopping 7 quid. | ||
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Xeris
Iran17695 Posts
On March 30 2009 05:48 Qwertify wrote: You may not care about your own writing, but other people take theirs pretty seriously, and expect others to do so as well. It's not that I don't care or don't take my writing seriously, but personally I feel like a lot of people are going way overboard with how seriously they're taking it (maybe, I haven't followed much going on at that site)... but I feel like sort of the idea these people have is like; "omg this Klaz guy is stealing my chance at the spotlight, this random authonomy rank is going to make my career as a writer" ... and so obviously their rage at Klaz begins, but my argument is that this authonomy thing isn't going to be paying off for anybody down the road. People don't understand how fucking hard it is to sell books once they're published. First, you get little to no advance, second you hardly get any royalties (the percentage royalty you get increases at certain thresholds of books sold, at least for my contract), and unless you're with a really top rated publishing company who will mass-print your book and ship it out to major booksellers everywhere, the onus is on you to do the work. So let's recap: you have to advertise, market, etc, your own book.. the publishing company will do little to no work aside from printing it and shipping it where it's ordered, you get little to no money (probably the amount of money you make won't even be equal to the amount of time you spend marketing it, let alone writing it). Overall, it's a very unglamorous thing, and nobody besides you is really going to care about your published book aside from giving you a pat on the back. But then again let's face it, most people don't write for the money, because 99% of writers can't make a living off their works (fuck I haven't sold a copy of my book in over 2 years)... it's more of a passion for them. My argument is then, if it's just their passion, who cares if some guy gets his friends to mass-vote for his book... in the grand scheme of things, it's not going to affect THEIR writing at all, maybe they have a slightly less chance at getting some rookie publishing deal, but big woop, they can get it somewhere else, or maybe just wait a little longer. If the passion is about writing, this shouldn't be making these writers so angry | ||
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PH
United States6173 Posts
This whole situation is clearly in Klaz's favor, and I'm glad the site understood and respected that. | ||
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Polyphasic
United States841 Posts
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Eugene_Saint
United States4 Posts
I am absolutely new to this site (I'm talking moments ago), although I used to be a de facto gamer (back in the day). That is, we would build networks of datacomm switches, then run a whole bunch of copies of Quake with an eye for network traffic analysis (that was a big deal back then). My real claim to fame was beating Blue Stinger in less than five hours which -- while it may suck by today's standards -- ain't bad for a dinosaur. At any rate... I'm not sure exactly how to go about posting this, so I'm just going to start from... here. The subject is: Klazart, Authonomy and the recent Upheaval. Rather than post the stuff here (and using up a bunch of Liquid space) I'll just post the link where it can be found. With so many Starcraft newbies at Authonomy... I thought there might be some interest in what really happened. My hope is that it will help prevent future web site stampedes; not just at Authonomy, but everywhere. Maybe not. As a member/author at Authonomy I was in the middle of writing an incredibly lame post about the Watchlist (and otherwise playing with a sort of modernized Gothic style) when... it hit the fan... http://www.authonomy.com/Forum/Posts.aspx?threadId=19180 Peace... Eugene ... and at that, Wibby laughed aloud, dancing a jig, slapping his bony appendages... | ||
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Physician
United States4146 Posts
lol, not bad, keeping it, thanks ~ btw we don't mind space intelligent usage, the blog area is pretty open, u might get more feedback | ||
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Eugene_Saint
United States4 Posts
On April 02 2009 12:55 Physician wrote: “Just because one has a rubber snake does not mean one should toss it into the herd.” lol, not bad, keeping it, thanks ~ btw we don't mind space intelligent usage, the blog area is pretty open, u might get more feedback HI Physician, Thanks for the input. I was hesitant to post the whole thing in one fell swoop -- don't know my way around here and didn't want to immediately frost everyone's balls. I'm afraid I'm extremely un-hep when it comes to blogs and such. I did, however, take all of the posts from that thread, cleared out the extraneous stuff, and put it all into one new, improved, easier to follow file. The problem is... now I don't know where to shove it. Any suggestions? Peace... Eugene | ||
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Eugene_Saint
United States4 Posts
OK, I figured out how to start a blog. Unfortunately they won't let me start a blog until I've been here five days. Frankly, I think that's fairly sound policy. On the other hand... it doesn't make it any easier to save the planet.... Peace... Eugene | ||
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VIB
Brazil3567 Posts
- Asking for someone to vote on your book without reading the content = voting for the author's popularity, not the book's quality. On a context where the book's quality should be the focus, not the author. Doing that would be unethical. In my personal opinion. - But if the site owner disagrees and think voting for the author's popularity and not the book's quality is actually valid. Then Klazart is innocent, he just played by the rules. It's the website's fault for making unfair (imho) rules in the first place. Authonomy is apparently even enjoying the extra audience a lot. - Conclusion: any negative repercussion that this issue might have (one's reputation comes into mind) should go directly to Authonomy.com, not to Klazart. Even tho I think what he did was unethical, he just played by the rules. | ||
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Pellucidity
Netherlands377 Posts
On April 02 2009 05:20 Eugene_Saint wrote: Rather than post the stuff here (and using up a bunch of Liquid space) I'll just post the link where it can be found. With so many Starcraft newbies at Authonomy... I thought there might be some interest in what really happened. My hope is that it will help prevent future web site stampedes; not just at Authonomy, but everywhere. Maybe not. As a member/author at Authonomy I was in the middle of writing an incredibly lame post about the Watchlist (and otherwise playing with a sort of modernized Gothic style) when... it hit the fan... http://www.authonomy.com/Forum/Posts.aspx?threadId=19180 Peace... Eugene Yes, prevent stampedes by giving the herd a link to the website you want to protect. | ||
Kinky
United States4126 Posts
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Faronel
United States658 Posts
On March 26 2009 15:30 HawaiianPig wrote: May not want to piss off the guy too much. Lotta piss and vinegar in this one. Must be cathartic to have a punching bag near the computer when you get so invested in the dealings of an online community. Just found this on another thread where besiger was "calling out jello_biafra" On March 03 2009 23:05 besiger wrote: nope silv, when i get mad over a game of starcraft i just swear out loud and go punch my punching bag, but i never insult people i just lost to, no matter how badly i lost. Coincidence? I think not! | ||
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