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29 fps
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States5724 Posts
February 02 2009 23:59 GMT
#141
psychological damage costs a lot, too... somehow, people can measure how much money they need in order to "cure" this emotional damage
4v4 is a battle of who has the better computer.
Ludrik
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Australia523 Posts
February 03 2009 00:05 GMT
#142
This thread is basically the majority of North Americans versus the majority of everywhere else. Really goes to show the different paradigms and cultures around.
Only a fool would die laughing. I was a fool.
Eben
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States769 Posts
February 03 2009 00:30 GMT
#143
I think as long as 8k covers their medical bills and lost/damaged luggage than it's plenty fair.

The airline shouldn't be to blame for this.
iNcontroL *
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
USA29055 Posts
February 03 2009 00:47 GMT
#144
On February 03 2009 08:52 Kwark wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2009 07:24 Jibba wrote:
On February 03 2009 07:11 Kwark wrote:
On February 03 2009 05:53 Jibba wrote:
On February 03 2009 03:12 Kwark wrote:
For those saying that they lost their luggage, the airline lost a plane and you don't see them bitching.

Spoken like a college student. When we both have jobs and are carrying laptops and expensive documents and expensive suits, I guarantee we'd both be bitching about it.

Not when someone gave me $8000.

Ok, so for you the dispute is over monetary value, not principle. If the plane got ripped in half at row D and you were sitting in row C, the half ot the plane that made it to safety, would 8k cover it?

If medical costs of treating me for trauma were below 8k, yes. It's a freak accident, I don't see why I should profit out of it.


You don't profit from it.. they pay you for being a part of the trauma. If I could ride an safe and sound with no problems I would pay them for their service and be done with it. If they are going to do retarded things like launch improperly and leave themselves no room when geese decide to suicide bomb the plane and force the plane to crash I am going to expect them to pay me lots of money to make the problem less of a problem.

Fucking nyoken is terrified of flying to this day because one time a passenger sitting next to him started freaking out and crying n shit.. imagine the hundred or so nyoken's a plane crash would create. The system expects the guilty party (company) to compensate those they endangered.
YianKutKu
Profile Joined January 2009
United States142 Posts
February 03 2009 00:57 GMT
#145
The US has 4% of the world's population, yet consumes 40% of the world's resources.
hwighting!
mahnini
Profile Blog Joined October 2005
United States6862 Posts
February 03 2009 00:58 GMT
#146
inertia is a property of matter
the world's a playground. you know that when you're a kid, but somewhere along the way everyone forgets it.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24723 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 01:04:24
February 03 2009 01:03 GMT
#147
On February 03 2009 09:57 YianKutKu wrote:
The US has 4% of the world's population, yet consumes 40% of the world's resources.

I don't really see how this is relevant to the thread. Using a few idiots who just had a life or death experience as an excuse to apply stereotypes to the US is not a good idea.


On February 03 2009 09:58 mahnini wrote:
inertia is a property of matter

Hahaha.
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ZoW
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States3983 Posts
February 03 2009 01:05 GMT
#148
It saddens me that everyone is just looking to make some fast cash these days. It was an accident, one that could not have been prevented, and luckily enough no one died. (With the utmost respect), I bet those people on the four 9/11 flights wish they were as lucky as this group.
the courage to be a lazy bum
Oystein
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Norway1602 Posts
February 03 2009 02:06 GMT
#149
On February 03 2009 09:47 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 03 2009 08:52 Kwark wrote:
On February 03 2009 07:24 Jibba wrote:
On February 03 2009 07:11 Kwark wrote:
On February 03 2009 05:53 Jibba wrote:
On February 03 2009 03:12 Kwark wrote:
For those saying that they lost their luggage, the airline lost a plane and you don't see them bitching.

Spoken like a college student. When we both have jobs and are carrying laptops and expensive documents and expensive suits, I guarantee we'd both be bitching about it.

Not when someone gave me $8000.

Ok, so for you the dispute is over monetary value, not principle. If the plane got ripped in half at row D and you were sitting in row C, the half ot the plane that made it to safety, would 8k cover it?

If medical costs of treating me for trauma were below 8k, yes. It's a freak accident, I don't see why I should profit out of it.

You don't profit from it.. they pay you for being a part of the trauma. If I could ride an safe and sound with no problems I would pay them for their service and be done with it. If they are going to do retarded things like launch improperly and leave themselves no room when geese decide to suicide bomb the plane and force the plane to crash I am going to expect them to pay me lots of money to make the problem less of a problem.

Correct me if I am wrong and its different in the US, but here the airplane companies don`t decide when they launch. The flight coordinators (not sure of the English word, the guys in the tower at the airport) directs all the traffic at the airport and decides when and where planes take off and land, so no the company who you flew with would not be responsible for this but the airport itself.
God Hates a Coward
PocketX
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
53 Posts
February 03 2009 02:17 GMT
#150
lol if I'm on the plane and my laptop fell into the water I'd rather die. No $$$ is going to save me from my trauma
Savio
Profile Joined April 2008
United States1850 Posts
February 03 2009 05:58 GMT
#151
I didn't read the whole thread, but these people are idiots. There was a terrible accident and they owe their lives to this airline for hiring and training their pilots so well.

Buncha idiots just trying to get the most they can without having to work for it.
The inherent vice of capitalism is the unequal sharing of the blessings. The inherent blessing of socialism is the equal sharing of misery. – Winston Churchill
ToSs.Bag
Profile Joined December 2008
United States201 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-03 06:38:29
February 03 2009 06:33 GMT
#152
Alright, let me first say that USAirways deserves all this.... why you ask?

Well, as someone who travels 100% for their job, I can tell you that no airline frustrates me more than their bullshit. They are called USairways but most of their planes are not Boeing planes, which pisses me off slightly more because Boeing is about 20 miles from my house (I am a Washington resident)

They also charge RIDICULOUS FEES!!!!

1st bag check: $15
2nd bag check:$25
Alcohol: $7 (per drink)
Water $2

They also have a nice set of fees they pass on such as the fuel fee, 911 fee and other fees not mandated to pass on to their customers, but of course they do anyway.

USAirways will nickle and dime the shit out of you, and the people who are forced to fly their bullshit want payback.... I hope they cripple that company, I truly do, if for no other reason than those fucking faggots wont give me a bottle of water when my credit card doesn't work. I of course am not a biggot and dont take it out on Flight Attendants, but nonetheless, HOW THE FUCK DO YOU CHARGE FOR WATER IN AMERICA?

In most states, whether you know this or not, it is illegal to run a business such as a venue, grocery store, and other types of retail environments with not having a FREE water supply, thus the Airlines shouldn't be able to dodge that bullet.

As for the "typical American" comments, a lot of "ridiculous suits" are the result in a never ending bureaucracy that most Americans have to face EVERYDAY. If it doesn't have 8 miles of Red Tape.... its not American. I tell you when I was in Australia I felt a lot more laid back, but people in America are tired of that kind of typical bullshit treatment being lumped in a category and being told what they are going to get, and this is what our POLICY is.... a bunch of bullshit that is..... even though these are crash victims, they still have to go through the same bullshit

In a way, if they end up getting more out of USAirways, it will make me more of a patriotic American. If any of you followed This story, you would know that a lot of bullshit suits do get beat down, and people get what they deserve. Sure sometimes there are cases of hot coffee suits, but for good reason, it keeps companies on their toes about safety (albeit ridiculous sometimes) they need to have a LITTLE concern for their consumers, after all, can't kill the people who buy your product, or turn them against you.....

All in all, USAirways are not offering a good enough package for the victims, The patrons who nearly lost their lives are now being bought off with chump change and 1 year long flight vouchers, which mind you, have a shitload of red tape to use in the first place (I.E. NO ONLINE BOOKING) is a bunch of bullshit and is an insult! May this be a biased view, but I am sick of bullshit like this, and in all honesty, I was hoping USAirways would go down because of the shitty way they do business on the whole, but this event to me, is karma to the airline, and I hope those passengers take every penny!

Flame me bitches......


EDIT:

P.S. It was the airlines//Airports fault.... not enough measures were taken to keep birds away, I know at Seatac we have HUGE assault measures against birds as well as satellite defenses and other ways of keeping them under control, because it is a BIG DEAL
F91
Profile Joined December 2008
New Zealand77 Posts
February 04 2009 02:44 GMT
#153
meh just kill them all
fong0r is a infested terran in disguise
ManaBlue
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Canada10458 Posts
February 04 2009 02:54 GMT
#154
This is just people trying to be opportunistic and get as much as they can from the situation. There is nothing American (or any other sub group for that matter) about it.
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baal
Profile Joined March 2003
10541 Posts
February 04 2009 03:03 GMT
#155
On February 04 2009 11:54 ManaBlue wrote:
This is just people trying to be opportunistic and get as much as they can from the situation. There is nothing American (or any other sub group for that matter) about it.


being oportunistic in possible court cases has become an american standard tho.
Im back, in pog form!
ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
February 04 2009 10:14 GMT
#156
On February 02 2009 19:53 Polyphasic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 02 2009 19:28 {88}iNcontroL wrote:
Not sure I like the "typical american" comment. Maybe in Australia it is custom to high five after a plane crash and call it good but in America we expect some kind of compensation when our lives are unnecessarily endangered. They were compensated but 8k$ and a temporary upgrade is a bit low.. especially when people are suing for millions over spilled hot coffee


suing over spilled coffee... typical american.

in other countries, people are known to work their ass off. what a bunch of whiners.

Wasn't that spilled coffee like 600 degrees or something

And didn't the health department tell them like four times that it was way too hot to serve
I'm on GOLD CHAIN
InfeSteD
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States4658 Posts
February 04 2009 11:06 GMT
#157
On February 04 2009 12:03 baal wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2009 11:54 ManaBlue wrote:
This is just people trying to be opportunistic and get as much as they can from the situation. There is nothing American (or any other sub group for that matter) about it.


being oportunistic in possible court cases has become an american standard tho.

both of you have a good point...

but it is a common stereotype and I dont know why people would argue about it... blacks like chicken and latinos like bean thats it ? just dont get too serious about it...

but in my opinion (I guess Im americanized already) they should get shit load of cash...
w/e
KurtistheTurtle
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1966 Posts
February 04 2009 14:32 GMT
#158
The spilled coffee was actually a cheap mcdonalds cup that just straight up broke from being cheap, and for some reason the coffee was heated to a higher temperature than other stores. The lady got scars and burns even though she was using the cup properly.

On February 04 2009 12:03 baal wrote:
being oportunistic in possible court cases has become an american standard tho.

There's often more to it than that. Don't judge off of some forum post or a news article.

And in this thread I think we've been under emphasizing what actually being in a plane crash is like, especially when other companies in the industry have measures to prevent crashes like this one.
“Reject your sense of injury and the injury itself disappears."
Ghost151
Profile Joined May 2008
United States290 Posts
February 06 2009 04:01 GMT
#159
they aren't dead....quit while you're ahead I say
fuck art its a competition if you dont get pissed off when you lose you dont care enough - Idra, on the "art" of RTS games.
BalliSLife
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
1339 Posts
February 06 2009 06:15 GMT
#160
I hate corporations, so i totally agree that they deserve the upgrade if not another 10 grand in their pockets.
Ya well, at least I don't fuck a fleshlight with a condom on and cry at the same time.
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