On January 11 2009 14:38 MrOwMrOw wrote:
having a man is better...
having a man is better...
use spoiler tags man
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jodogohoo
Canada2533 Posts
On January 11 2009 14:38 MrOwMrOw wrote: having a man is better... use spoiler tags man | ||
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semioldguy
United States7488 Posts
A girl won't make your life more enjoyable if it is not enjoyable already, but it can enhance an already enjoyable life. | ||
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Rekrul
Korea (South)17174 Posts
falling asleep waking up ur room is clean clothes are washed and all folded neatly in drawers <--- best feeling every, far far better than sex | ||
Zapdos_Smithh
Canada2620 Posts
On January 11 2009 14:05 cgrinker wrote: Coincidentally I came on here to tell everyone that I'm slowly if surely discovering the secret to the endless summer of love with your girlfriend, and because of my love for TL you all will be the first people I tell oh nice.. | ||
ForVengeance
United States111 Posts
People always say stuff like "if you meet the right one" etc... Let me ask you this... arent all men practically the same in regards to women? I mean, dont we all want the ones who are pretty and younger and not that much of a drag and lower maintenance? If you think about it its all pretty much the vast majority of mens wish lists/demands. Well womens (womens, not your 17 year old GF that dont count) expectations and demands are pretty universal as well. She WILL want to get married. At like 18 shell say she doesnt and its just a piece of paper, they change their tune at 25 man. They say they dont want kids, but they change that tune as well. I know you say "experience doesnt equal research" and i somewhat agree even though technically research is intentionally caused experiences, but i have seen MUCH of this in my life. Every single one of my male friends had cool laid back girlfriends who didnt want kids and didnt want to get married. Then one day they say, "if we arent going to get married then we should break up because we are wasting each others time". THEY ALL SAY THAT SAME LINE MAN. Then once they have you they say the same thing about a kid. I know youre thinkin "if we have fun together then why will she suddenly change?" Thats what they do. A womans urge is to reproduce. It KICKS IN. You cant predict it. And they will pull every trick in the book to screw you into a corner and make you the father. This is not even debatable. Dont bring up the 1 couple in 100 that havent gone down this road. If you are with a chick over time you WILL have her on your back at some point about marriage. Then eventually a kid as well. And that shit aint fun. Youre not gonna be posting your Jaedong comics on TL anymore cause youre going to be changing diapers. Kids are a bitch man. Wives are a bitch. Im not 17. My friends arent 17. This shit is real that i am telling you. They take you one piece at a time. I urge all men genuinely to stay away from committing to women and make sure you ALWAYS wear a condom. Wear 2. Its the best advice youll ever get. Dont ever believe that your girl is different. Thats the way nature plays you. Everyone i know whos married is miserable and looks 40 even if they are 25. Everyone i know who isnt married and dont have kids loves life and look ten years younger than they really are. Research or not take from that what you will. And one more thing... i dont hate women. I respect the ones who achieve things. I despise the ones who sit around waiting to marry men who achieve great things as if it will rub off on her. BTW i dont count academics, school is a joke at measuring peoples mind power. School is homework, not mind ability. If you can do mass homework you can get practically any degree. Its so funny how if you expect a woman to be an achiever rather than just a pretty face people get all hurt and offended. Its also funny how womens demands escalate over time in the realm of money/power/intelligence but men never raise their expectations of women in the realm of intelligence. Society keeps them as pretty toys, and if they take the other route its an uphill battle thats almost not worth it for them. You think i hate women, but really i wish they would grow up and quit being life support systems for wombs and actually DO something. When they do its usually something impressive. This is my last post on this. | ||
Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
Learn to type or go away. Edit: Why wouldn't YOU want kids anyway, you sad piece of humanity? Edit #2: I guess it ain't a big loss for humanity if ForVengeance doesn't have kids, I mean, it's not like anyone would miss the negativity he's spewing around... | ||
fanatacist
10319 Posts
On January 11 2009 19:11 Naib wrote: I stopped reading after "mens" and "womens" Learn to type or go away. Edit: Why wouldn't YOU want kids anyway, you sad piece of humanity? Edit #2: I guess it ain't a big loss for humanity if ForVengeance doesn't have kids, I mean, it's not like anyone would miss the negativity he's spewing around... QFT. ForVengeance: When you said that they FORCE you to have kids and you outlined the lack of sex due to physical changes, that was when I knew you were a fucking dumbass and you have never loved anyone more than yourself in your entire life. I hope no one forces you to reproduce. Sperm banks should have your name on file so that they know to reject you. | ||
ambit!ous1
United States3662 Posts
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SweeTLemonS[TPR]
11739 Posts
On January 11 2009 15:19 semioldguy wrote: It depends on what point in life you are at. Are you at the point in your life you want to play the field and get attention from lots of women? Do you have low self esteem and maybe having a girl makes you feel better about yourself? It just depends on where you are in life and what you want from yourself. A girl won't make your life more enjoyable if it is not enjoyable already, but it can enhance an already enjoyable life. Yeah, this is absolutely true. | ||
Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
I had to move all my shit out before she came home one day after she crazied out earlier that morning and ran infront and behind my vehicle as I was trying to leave the house, and stay with parents until I found my own place. I had absolutely no conceptions whatsoever on what a girl would be like to live with before this, but if this represents the majority of what men go through, perhaps people should be more understanding of what ForVengeance is actually trying to say. You just don't know what some of these women are like. (And if you do, I don't understand how you could ignore ForVengeance's meaning and dissect his posts literally) The experience has made me extremely skeptical of women in general, before I was actually quite innocent. Edit: I wasn't dating her or doing anything (kissing/hugging/fucking). | ||
Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
On January 11 2009 18:41 ForVengeance wrote: For all those who thought i was out of line at saying chicks are idiots and a bummer, meet me back here in 10 years when youre married to her, not having sex, not wanting sex cause shes fat as balls after she forced you into having a kid (YES THEY DO THAT), and youre spending 8 hours a day on 18yearsold.com and hiding every single genuine thought and feeling from her just to avoid conflict around the house. People always say stuff like "if you meet the right one" etc... Let me ask you this... arent all men practically the same in regards to women? I mean, dont we all want the ones who are pretty and younger and not that much of a drag and lower maintenance? If you think about it its all pretty much the vast majority of mens wish lists/demands. Well womens (womens, not your 17 year old GF that dont count) expectations and demands are pretty universal as well. She WILL want to get married. At like 18 shell say she doesnt and its just a piece of paper, they change their tune at 25 man. They say they dont want kids, but they change that tune as well. I know you say "experience doesnt equal research" and i somewhat agree even though technically research is intentionally caused experiences, but i have seen MUCH of this in my life. Every single one of my male friends had cool laid back girlfriends who didnt want kids and didnt want to get married. Then one day they say, "if we arent going to get married then we should break up because we are wasting each others time". THEY ALL SAY THAT SAME LINE MAN. Then once they have you they say the same thing about a kid. I know youre thinkin "if we have fun together then why will she suddenly change?" Thats what they do. A womans urge is to reproduce. It KICKS IN. You cant predict it. And they will pull every trick in the book to screw you into a corner and make you the father. This is not even debatable. Dont bring up the 1 couple in 100 that havent gone down this road. If you are with a chick over time you WILL have her on your back at some point about marriage. Then eventually a kid as well. And that shit aint fun. Youre not gonna be posting your Jaedong comics on TL anymore cause youre going to be changing diapers. Kids are a bitch man. Wives are a bitch. Im not 17. My friends arent 17. This shit is real that i am telling you. They take you one piece at a time. I urge all men genuinely to stay away from committing to women and make sure you ALWAYS wear a condom. Wear 2. Its the best advice youll ever get. Dont ever believe that your girl is different. Thats the way nature plays you. Everyone i know whos married is miserable and looks 40 even if they are 25. Everyone i know who isnt married and dont have kids loves life and look ten years younger than they really are. Research or not take from that what you will. And one more thing... i dont hate women. I respect the ones who achieve things. I despise the ones who sit around waiting to marry men who achieve great things as if it will rub off on her. BTW i dont count academics, school is a joke at measuring peoples mind power. School is homework, not mind ability. If you can do mass homework you can get practically any degree. Its so funny how if you expect a woman to be an achiever rather than just a pretty face people get all hurt and offended. Its also funny how womens demands escalate over time in the realm of money/power/intelligence but men never raise their expectations of women in the realm of intelligence. Society keeps them as pretty toys, and if they take the other route its an uphill battle thats almost not worth it for them. You think i hate women, but really i wish they would grow up and quit being life support systems for wombs and actually DO something. When they do its usually something impressive. This is my last post on this. I read this and couldn't help but laugh. Sorry man, but: + Show Spoiler + NOT IF THEY'RE FRENCH!! ![]() Believe it, or not. There are marriages out there that last like both my parent's grand parents and many more. Sure, there are many ups and downs. The best couples always find a way to make it work. Sounds like you two weren't meant for each other. I agree with the other guys. You are very bitter. Any regrets? o.O As for the whole 'double condom' thing. It doesn't increase your odds anymore than a single condom. Paranoia can be a terrible thing. The idea alone makes me cringe. I don't see how anyone can fit two on unless you have no girth, which doesn't change a damn thing. | ||
strongwind
United States862 Posts
On January 11 2009 20:27 Element)LoGiC wrote: I had absolutely no conceptions whatsoever on what a girl would be like to live with before this, but if this represents the majority of what men go through, perhaps people should be more understanding of what ForVengeance is actually trying to say. You just don't know what some of these women are like. (And if you do, I don't understand how you could ignore ForVengeance's meaning and dissect his posts literally) It isn't. Second, reading ForVengeance's posts make me think of the fish in a small pond analogy. It's so easy to generalize when you only know so many people around you or conform to the MySpace mentality. That's why I love college; you get to meet so many different kinds of people from all over the world. If you go to a small college, go travel to a different state, or a different country. Once you get a taste that not everyone fits into your preconceptions, you'll stop generalizing as much. Third, it's easy to be bitter when your significant other does something to hurt you. The more you love something or someone, the greater the potential for disappointment or satisfaction. That's why, as many others have said, it is important to know yourself and where you are in your life, and to see if you're ready to accept the commitment. | ||
Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On January 11 2009 20:55 strongwind wrote: First of all, Show nested quote + On January 11 2009 20:27 Element)LoGiC wrote: I had absolutely no conceptions whatsoever on what a girl would be like to live with before this, but if this represents the majority of what men go through, perhaps people should be more understanding of what ForVengeance is actually trying to say. You just don't know what some of these women are like. (And if you do, I don't understand how you could ignore ForVengeance's meaning and dissect his posts literally) It isn't. Second, reading ForVengeance's posts make me think of the fish in a small pond analogy. It's so easy to generalize when you only know so many people around you or conform to the MySpace mentality. That's why I love college; you get to meet so many different kinds of people from all over the world. If you go to a small college, go travel to a different state, or a different country. Once you get a taste that not everyone fits into your preconceptions, you'll stop generalizing as much. Third, it's easy to be bitter when your significant other does something to hurt you. The more you love something or someone, the greater the potential for disappointment or satisfaction. That's why, as many others have said, it is important to know yourself and where you are in your life, and to see if you're ready to accept the commitment. Whew, was hoping that was the case. Still, I don't think we can jump on ForVengeance for what he's saying. Maybe everyone else is in the small pond. | ||
Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On January 11 2009 18:41 ForVengeance wrote: For all those who thought i was out of line at saying chicks are idiots and a bummer, meet me back here in 10 years when youre married to her, not having sex, not wanting sex cause shes fat as balls after she forced you into having a kid (YES THEY DO THAT), and youre spending 8 hours a day on 18yearsold.com and hiding every single genuine thought and feeling from her just to avoid conflict around the house. People always say stuff like "if you meet the right one" etc... Let me ask you this... arent all men practically the same in regards to women? I mean, dont we all want the ones who are pretty and younger and not that much of a drag and lower maintenance? If you think about it its all pretty much the vast majority of mens wish lists/demands. Well womens (womens, not your 17 year old GF that dont count) expectations and demands are pretty universal as well. She WILL want to get married. At like 18 shell say she doesnt and its just a piece of paper, they change their tune at 25 man. They say they dont want kids, but they change that tune as well. I know you say "experience doesnt equal research" and i somewhat agree even though technically research is intentionally caused experiences, but i have seen MUCH of this in my life. Every single one of my male friends had cool laid back girlfriends who didnt want kids and didnt want to get married. Then one day they say, "if we arent going to get married then we should break up because we are wasting each others time". THEY ALL SAY THAT SAME LINE MAN. Then once they have you they say the same thing about a kid. I know youre thinkin "if we have fun together then why will she suddenly change?" Thats what they do. A womans urge is to reproduce. It KICKS IN. You cant predict it. And they will pull every trick in the book to screw you into a corner and make you the father. This is not even debatable. Dont bring up the 1 couple in 100 that havent gone down this road. If you are with a chick over time you WILL have her on your back at some point about marriage. Then eventually a kid as well. And that shit aint fun. Youre not gonna be posting your Jaedong comics on TL anymore cause youre going to be changing diapers. Kids are a bitch man. Wives are a bitch. Im not 17. My friends arent 17. This shit is real that i am telling you. They take you one piece at a time. I urge all men genuinely to stay away from committing to women and make sure you ALWAYS wear a condom. Wear 2. Its the best advice youll ever get. Dont ever believe that your girl is different. Thats the way nature plays you. Everyone i know whos married is miserable and looks 40 even if they are 25. Everyone i know who isnt married and dont have kids loves life and look ten years younger than they really are. Research or not take from that what you will. And one more thing... i dont hate women. I respect the ones who achieve things. I despise the ones who sit around waiting to marry men who achieve great things as if it will rub off on her. BTW i dont count academics, school is a joke at measuring peoples mind power. School is homework, not mind ability. If you can do mass homework you can get practically any degree. Its so funny how if you expect a woman to be an achiever rather than just a pretty face people get all hurt and offended. Its also funny how womens demands escalate over time in the realm of money/power/intelligence but men never raise their expectations of women in the realm of intelligence. Society keeps them as pretty toys, and if they take the other route its an uphill battle thats almost not worth it for them. You think i hate women, but really i wish they would grow up and quit being life support systems for wombs and actually DO something. When they do its usually something impressive. This is my last post on this. As much as i hate to say it, but i actually quite agree here.. edit: and no, i dont have kids, and no i havent experience any of this ( so dont come here and tell me i agree because i was dissapointed one time to many, since i havent), i have a relationship that i like for now, 3,5 years, but i have my eyes opened, and i have seen too many people forced to be together because of the child, talked to too many people at work that are divorcing because it got impossible to live together, too many relations ruined because they thought you can only be happy if you are with someone... | ||
Naib
Hungary4843 Posts
On January 11 2009 20:55 strongwind wrote: ... it's easy to be bitter when your significant other does something to hurt you. The more you love something or someone, the greater the potential for disappointment or satisfaction. That's why, as many others have said, it is important to know yourself and where you are in your life, and to see if you're ready to accept the commitment. Yep, exactly. If you don't love (or well, at least accept) yourself it will be pretty damn hard to maintain a relationship, and even if you succeed you won't be happy. Not everyone is ready for a serious relationship. | ||
haduken
Australia8267 Posts
Your dad and his dad and his dad's dad and countless others have dealt with the same thing. You might be at a point of life to think it is rather pointless to waste your time on things like this but eventually everything comes back to this. You are the man and the person that is going to earn money, raise kids blah blah blah, your so called individualism is a luxury because you happen to live in a great country with decent social opportunities. Enjoy it while you can but don't think for a second that you some how don't deserve all this responsibility. I will leave with you some thing said to me by a Korean guy "Women are born with boobs, That makes their head heavy when they walk so they can't think, you don't have that problem." lol don't know if that make sense but it was very insightful when i first heard it. | ||
Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Sucks to be you. Hopefully next time, you won't be as stupid. But, that doesn't deny the fact you were stupid to fall in 'love' with them in the first place. Smarten up. | ||
Element)LoGiC
Canada1143 Posts
On January 11 2009 21:02 haduken wrote: Women will always stir shits up dude... What did you expect was suppose to happen? Your dad and his dad and his dad's dad and countless others have dealt with the same thing. You might be at a point of life to think it is rather pointless to waste your time on things like this but eventually everything comes back to this. You are the man and the person that is going to earn money, raise kids blah blah blah, your so called individualism is a luxury because you happen to live in a great country with decent social opportunities. Enjoy it while you can but don't think for a second that you some how don't deserve all this responsibility. I will leave with you some thing said to me by a Korean guy "Women are born with boobs, That makes their head heavy when they walk so they can't think, you don't have that problem." lol don't know if that make sense but it was very insightful when i first heard it. What does this mean? I don't know what you mean by responsibility. I expect from a woman as much as I give. This is unreasonable? | ||
Samurai-
Slovenia2035 Posts
On January 11 2009 21:05 Element)LoGiC wrote: Show nested quote + On January 11 2009 21:02 haduken wrote: Women will always stir shits up dude... What did you expect was suppose to happen? Your dad and his dad and his dad's dad and countless others have dealt with the same thing. You might be at a point of life to think it is rather pointless to waste your time on things like this but eventually everything comes back to this. You are the man and the person that is going to earn money, raise kids blah blah blah, your so called individualism is a luxury because you happen to live in a great country with decent social opportunities. Enjoy it while you can but don't think for a second that you some how don't deserve all this responsibility. I will leave with you some thing said to me by a Korean guy "Women are born with boobs, That makes their head heavy when they walk so they can't think, you don't have that problem." lol don't know if that make sense but it was very insightful when i first heard it. What does this mean? I don't know what you mean by responsibility. I expect from a woman as much as I give. This is unreasonable? Ofcourse not, its exactly as it should be, but there is a point when woman suddenly starts to think that the only happines and the only reason to live is to have a child, even if they cant support it, and/or can barely manage to survive as it is.. | ||
Showtime!
Canada2938 Posts
Depending on where you're from. This old social norm has changed drastically. | ||
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