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tyndale
Profile Joined July 2007
Australia20 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-03 10:44:40
September 03 2007 10:42 GMT
#61
In SupCom , instead of going out to cap mass points you can just sit in your base and build mass fabricators . If thats not enough , at tier3 just produce SubComs that you can upgrade to produce mass and power . Once you mass these things just hide them under water and viola , you have an economy that is hard to harass. If your subcoms are found by the enemy , dont worry , they are one of the units with the highest hit points and they can fight back . So you essentially have an economy that can move around the map , attack and take lots of damage .Did I mention they are the best builders in the game ? They build faster than engineers. This is just one unit I am talking about .
Funchucks
Profile Joined June 2007
Canada2113 Posts
September 03 2007 12:13 GMT
#62
These games shouldn't really be compared.

Supreme Commander fully fits the description of Real-Time Strategy. You play it like a commander giving orders, you have time (though not unlimited) to think and plan, and the quality of your strategy is the biggest determining factor in whether you'll win or lose.

Starcraft was intended to be an RTS. However, it turned out to be something new and unexpected. You don't play it like a commander. You take the role of something like a god of war, possessing normally clumsy, bumbling units and briefly making them deadly efficient.

You don't just tell dropships what to do, you pilot them through tricky maneuvers. You don't just tell dragoons where they should go and who they should attack, you guide them through each step and shot. You dodge marines around the spines of lurkers. You don't just order units to be made, you go to each factory and you make them, often at a severe cost of front-line troop incompetence.

For that reason, I don't consider Starcraft a strategy game. It's a strategic game, one which involves strategy, but strategy is not the dominant feature of play.

So it's an apples vs. oranges comparison. Pointless.
I serve my houseguests slices of butter.
brambolius
Profile Joined January 2006
Netherlands448 Posts
September 03 2007 12:17 GMT
#63
Asura - ramen ftw says:
haha dude u dont know what ur talking about


you shuldve stopped here, this guy isnt worth the time
Zanno
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
United States1484 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-03 12:23:26
September 03 2007 12:20 GMT
#64
I had a similar argument with a friend about SC vs Warhammer and all I had to do to shut him up was tell him that the best SC players execute about 300 actions per minute whereas Warhammer is more like 50

he really didn't know how to respond to that
aaaaa
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 03 2007 12:25 GMT
#65
People who think any other RTS is better than Starcraft should think again.
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
September 03 2007 12:47 GMT
#66
I can't comment on the actual gameplay seeing as how I"ve never played SupCom, but as far as how fun it is to watch and which game makes a better spectator sport. Definetately Starcraft. I've seen some VOD's of SupCom games and I always find myself just screaming, "WHAT THE FUCK IS THIS SHIT?!?!?!". With Starcraft however, my friends have never even once played the game, but when I show them VOD's they really get into it and enjoy them a lot.

Also my soundcard's been fried for the past couple of months so it has nothing to do with the Korean commentators.
pyrogenetix
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
China5098 Posts
September 03 2007 12:50 GMT
#67
starcraft vs other RTS arguements do not exist. there is no arguement. there is only lack of understanding on the latter party. you on the other hand should just turn on your heel and walk away. if he persists bet him his two hands that sc is a better game. see if the motherfucker dares say anything else.
Yea that looks just like Kang Min... amazing game sense... and uses mind games well, but has the micro of a washed up progamer.
maybenexttime
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
Poland5888 Posts
September 03 2007 13:05 GMT
#68
On September 03 2007 21:13 Funchucks wrote:
These games shouldn't really be compared.

Supreme Commander fully fits the description of Real-Time Strategy. You play it like a commander giving orders, you have time (though not unlimited) to think and plan, and the quality of your strategy is the biggest determining factor in whether you'll win or lose.

Starcraft was intended to be an RTS. However, it turned out to be something new and unexpected. You don't play it like a commander. You take the role of something like a god of war, possessing normally clumsy, bumbling units and briefly making them deadly efficient.

You don't just tell dropships what to do, you pilot them through tricky maneuvers. You don't just tell dragoons where they should go and who they should attack, you guide them through each step and shot. You dodge marines around the spines of lurkers. You don't just order units to be made, you go to each factory and you make them, often at a severe cost of front-line troop incompetence.

For that reason, I don't consider Starcraft a strategy game. It's a strategic game, one which involves strategy, but strategy is not the dominant feature of play.

So it's an apples vs. oranges comparison. Pointless.


Except for the fact that SupCom has 3 identical factions where only one is playable ROFL. It's a game where the best abuser wins. Little strategy involved; maybe if it wasn't so imbalanced, rendering certain units way overpowered, one could at least strategize a bit.
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
September 03 2007 14:27 GMT
#69
On September 02 2007 23:40 iNFeRnO wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2007 23:26 PePe QuiCoSE wrote:
On September 02 2007 15:57 Element)LoGiC wrote:
On September 02 2007 03:28 iNFeRnO wrote:
hmm me and this guy were arguing about which game is superior, I already know what u guys will say about sc but I'd like to hear some reasonable analysis about why SC is a better game than supcom. anyway the dude is a damn rock, no matter how i earnestly reason with him, he ends up bashing SC.. here is some chat logs

S says:
its got more air units then SC has all units combined
S says:
almost
Asura - ramen ftw says:
rofl thats bs
S says:
yea
S says:
how many units in SC total per faction?
S says:
doubt more then 30
Asura - ramen ftw says:
less is more, for the reason 1 unit has multiple roles, thus u can use it many different ways
S says:
haha less is more.. not in this situation
S says:
honestly, this unit multi function is crap
S says:
thas what i hate quite alot iin SC
S says:
now that u mentioned it
S says:
that makes SC even more stupid
S says:
cuz you be pushig out unit of 1 type with multiple capabilities
S says:
how gay is that
S says:
so with 3 types of units you pretty much covered
S says:
thats some child stuff
Asura - ramen ftw says:
haha dude u dont know what ur talking about
S says:
yea i do
S says:
now is a tank, then its a fortified gun
S says:
pfft
S says:
give me a break
S says:
how stupid is that
S says:
supcom and sc are not even debatable
S says:
you wasting your time
S says:
you know what i think?
S says:
i think you been brainwashed by SC
S says:
blinded by blizzard
Asura - ramen ftw says:
LOL
S says:
heh
S says:
but in the end, i'll still prolly end up buying SC2
S says:
so i can make more fun of it

please discuss


SC isn't better. We just like it more

I agree. You can compare them objectively and technically you can't say one game is better than the other, but you'll find that starcraft is more fun to play for you for reasons you find strong enough to say SC is better than SupCom. That's that...


i'm pretty sure SC is a better game than supcom, not only for the reason its more fun for me. SC was a milestone for the entire RTS genre, and it still is popular after 10 years. What about supcom? I played when the game came out and there were some ppl but it was all hype, nowadays u get to see as many as only 500 players on their server, the game lasted what, a couple months? This fact alone already tells you which game is more superior, not to mention the gameplay mechanics.
That tells you that SC has been far more popular than Supcom, not that it is a better game. By that thinking you could say that Windows is better than Linux because it's the most used OS. I like SC more than Supcom, i haven't played Supcom so i just make it up of vods and trailers i have seen., but i can't just say that one is better than the other out of nowhere (bandwagon).
TRUESCFAN
Profile Blog Joined March 2012
14 Posts
May 30 2012 00:46 GMT
#70
The amount of ignorance here is too much to pass up. Here is a new ending to this thread:
SnipedSoul
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada2158 Posts
May 30 2012 00:49 GMT
#71
On September 02 2007 03:32 Kennigit wrote:
I played supreme commander and it is a piece of shit


Kennigit has spoken.
AirbladeOrange
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States2574 Posts
May 30 2012 00:51 GMT
#72
On May 30 2012 09:49 SnipedSoul wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 02 2007 03:32 Kennigit wrote:
I played supreme commander and it is a piece of shit


Kennigit has spoken.


5 years ago. Never even heard of this game.
dAPhREAk
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Nauru12397 Posts
May 30 2012 00:53 GMT
#73
On May 30 2012 09:51 AirbladeOrange wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 30 2012 09:49 SnipedSoul wrote:
On September 02 2007 03:32 Kennigit wrote:
I played supreme commander and it is a piece of shit


Kennigit has spoken.


5 years ago. Never even heard of this game.

that pretty much answers the thread's question. lol
Kennigit *
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
Canada19447 Posts
June 01 2012 18:52 GMT
#74
Oh thats why some guy got mad at me and PMed me angrily rofl. Literally a 5 year old post.
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