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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 22 2024 12:13 GMT
#15141
Zeo, Russia is the one sabre rattling about nuclear war. No one else.

Literally every week there is Sabre Rattling coming out of there. Only one country is pretending using nuclear weapons in limited capacity will be OK.

How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
November 22 2024 13:13 GMT
#15142
On November 22 2024 21:13 Sadist wrote:
Zeo, Russia is the one sabre rattling about nuclear war. No one else.

Literally every week there is Sabre Rattling coming out of there. Only one country is pretending using nuclear weapons in limited capacity will be OK.


Yes, escalation as an answer to the UK and US firing missiles into Russian territory, which itself is an answer to Russian escalation which in turn was an answer to Kiev escalation ect ect it goes on and on.

The worst thing that can happen is if one side doesnt have anything left to escalate with.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7328 Posts
November 22 2024 13:20 GMT
#15143
On November 22 2024 22:13 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2024 21:13 Sadist wrote:
Zeo, Russia is the one sabre rattling about nuclear war. No one else.

Literally every week there is Sabre Rattling coming out of there. Only one country is pretending using nuclear weapons in limited capacity will be OK.


Yes, escalation as an answer to the UK and US firing missiles into Russian territory, which itself is an answer to Russian escalation which in turn was an answer to Kiev escalation ect ect it goes on and on.

The worst thing that can happen is if one side doesnt have anything left to escalate with.



The US and UK did not fire missles into Russia. You know that. Ukraine did it.

Russia can end the war today. They started all of this and can leave and it would be over.
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2066 Posts
November 22 2024 13:28 GMT
#15144
On November 22 2024 20:07 Gorsameth wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2024 20:06 Dan HH wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:55 KwarK wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:53 vova_ wrote:
I hope there will be nuclear war at this stage. I hope you get to see the skin burn off your children. To see the blood boil out of their bodies. Maybe then you will see the futility of your positions.

And the Russian emerges. This is why everyone treats you the way they do. Because of the vile person you choose to be. Because of the vile things you believe. Because of the vile things you do.

There's a reason that the Ukrainians, like literally everyone else who has ever lived under Russian rule, would rather die than do so again. It's not everyone else, it's you. It always has been. And until you recognize that your culture and psyche are diseased it always will be.

I'm having a deja vu here, you have a talent at unmasking these guys.
Kwark is good at making people mad at him ^^

Facts and logic really pisses these people off, not to mention the cutting wit. I always thought when these people got unmasked that those who agreed with parts of what they said it would cause a "oh shit" moment. But it never seems to.

The horse shoe theory of politics has it flaws, but when it comes to populists it is scary how much it gets right. This thread shows it so clearly because the "left" and "right" from the other threads who believe in facts, democracy and generally hate evil come together and have mostly agreement. And those living in the they them world also have come together. You would think it would be terrifying for someone from the far left to agree with the far right (and vice versa). But here we are, with it all laid bare.
Razyda
Profile Joined March 2013
1049 Posts
November 22 2024 13:44 GMT
#15145
On November 22 2024 20:51 zeo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2024 19:58 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:53 vova_ wrote:
I hope there will be nuclear war at this stage. I hope you get to see the skin burn off your children. To see the blood boil out of their bodies. Maybe then you will see the futility of your positions.


I think that was uncalled for, and personally I would apologise for such remark. It also dilutes your arguments.

Edit: typo

There are people in this thread calling for limited nuclear strikes and that nuclear war 'wouldnt be so bad'.

If we could have the war mongerers and psycopaths quarentied on another planet by themselves so they could nuke each other however much they want that would be ideal. Sadly thats not possible.

In any case no one is asking the chihuahuas how the escalation game will be played. The people stting in a cafe drinking soy lattes and calling for blood wouldnt be so bloodthirsty if they had any responsibility in their lives. The United States and Russia are not angsty teens but actually think about self preservation. If you end up in a bar fight you should be thinking about not getting stabbed and stopping things from getting out of hand. A lot of good your high horse and 'he started it!' will do you when you are bleeding out on the floor


See I agree with you on that, more so I think that was also general idea behind vova_ post. I just said that way he expressed it was not the best, to put it mildly. It was also counterproductive, you probably noticed that general reaction now is "he was x, we dont have to address his arguments any more". He came across rather bloodthirsty and zealous which is exactly what he accused people arguing with him of. To be clear I didnt call for a ban, or reported him.
Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
November 22 2024 13:47 GMT
#15146
On November 22 2024 22:44 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2024 20:51 zeo wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:58 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:53 vova_ wrote:
I hope there will be nuclear war at this stage. I hope you get to see the skin burn off your children. To see the blood boil out of their bodies. Maybe then you will see the futility of your positions.


I think that was uncalled for, and personally I would apologise for such remark. It also dilutes your arguments.

Edit: typo

There are people in this thread calling for limited nuclear strikes and that nuclear war 'wouldnt be so bad'.

If we could have the war mongerers and psycopaths quarentied on another planet by themselves so they could nuke each other however much they want that would be ideal. Sadly thats not possible.

In any case no one is asking the chihuahuas how the escalation game will be played. The people stting in a cafe drinking soy lattes and calling for blood wouldnt be so bloodthirsty if they had any responsibility in their lives. The United States and Russia are not angsty teens but actually think about self preservation. If you end up in a bar fight you should be thinking about not getting stabbed and stopping things from getting out of hand. A lot of good your high horse and 'he started it!' will do you when you are bleeding out on the floor


See I agree with you on that, more so I think that was also general idea behind vova_ post. I just said that way he expressed it was not the best, to put it mildly. It was also counterproductive, you probably noticed that general reaction now is "he was x, we dont have to address his arguments any more". He came across rather bloodthirsty and zealous which is exactly what he accused people arguing with him of. To be clear I didnt call for a ban, or reported him.


There was never really an argument going on because he wasn't making a point, he was just lashing out.
No will to live, no wish to die
zeo
Profile Joined October 2009
Serbia6343 Posts
November 22 2024 14:20 GMT
#15147
On November 22 2024 22:44 Razyda wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 22 2024 20:51 zeo wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:58 Razyda wrote:
On November 22 2024 19:53 vova_ wrote:
I hope there will be nuclear war at this stage. I hope you get to see the skin burn off your children. To see the blood boil out of their bodies. Maybe then you will see the futility of your positions.


I think that was uncalled for, and personally I would apologise for such remark. It also dilutes your arguments.

Edit: typo

There are people in this thread calling for limited nuclear strikes and that nuclear war 'wouldnt be so bad'.

If we could have the war mongerers and psycopaths quarentied on another planet by themselves so they could nuke each other however much they want that would be ideal. Sadly thats not possible.

In any case no one is asking the chihuahuas how the escalation game will be played. The people stting in a cafe drinking soy lattes and calling for blood wouldnt be so bloodthirsty if they had any responsibility in their lives. The United States and Russia are not angsty teens but actually think about self preservation. If you end up in a bar fight you should be thinking about not getting stabbed and stopping things from getting out of hand. A lot of good your high horse and 'he started it!' will do you when you are bleeding out on the floor


See I agree with you on that, more so I think that was also general idea behind vova_ post. I just said that way he expressed it was not the best, to put it mildly. It was also counterproductive, you probably noticed that general reaction now is "he was x, we dont have to address his arguments any more". He came across rather bloodthirsty and zealous which is exactly what he accused people arguing with him of. To be clear I didnt call for a ban, or reported him.

No, your post was valid I just used it as a starting point. Obviously he fell for the poor quality bait but letting himself get triggered by these people... eh. Its like getting triggered by a flat earther, why do that to yourself?

The best way to counter them is with facts and logic which he did to a degree, though getting emotional and lashing out is what Kwark wanted. The echo chamber is getting smaller and smaller, let them see how niche their point of view is becoming and they will switch whatever their view is to get the most percieved social credit. Its a story as old as time.

Ive never reported anyone in this thread, even the people gloating over dead bodies. Its their shame let everyone see it.
Pre-emptive retaliatory de-escalation action
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10929 Posts
November 22 2024 14:32 GMT
#15148
Can you please list these "facts and logic" for me? Asking for a friend.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
November 22 2024 15:18 GMT
#15149
He, like a great many other Russians, fundamentally failed to understand why what Russia is doing is wrong. He fundamentally fails to understand why Ukrainians do not recognize that the mighty Russia has the power and therefore the right to rule them. He, like a great many other Russians, blames the victim for resisting attack because they literally do not understand why attacking is wrong.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
ahwala
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany418 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 15:42:58
November 22 2024 15:37 GMT
#15150
Risking nuclear war about some resources in eastern Ukraine that Black Rock and Larry Fink thought they had in their pockets, while encroaching closer and closer to Russia with NATO systems. After dozens of failed sanctions packages, which crippled Western economies, and still further escalating with deep strikes into Russian territory, while thousands upon thousands of Russians and Ukrainians lose their lives in the war every day for (((Western))) oligarchs' interests.
Who can blame Russia for defending itself? Brainwashed NPCs.
Meanwhile the MIC pockets billions upon billions of the suffering of not just the soldiers dying in the conflict, but by de-industrialising Europe and making life unaffordable for huge parts of the US population as well
Just imagine the sides were reversed...
The US and Israel are a plague to world freedom, prosperity, human rights and stare sovereignty.
Fuck the US, fuck Israel. Let's hope Trump holds some of his promises for his second term, eventhough it will be much more difficult now after the Biden administration ruined all diplomatic channels and made the situation so much more hopeless.

User was temp banned for this post.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44203 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 16:17:58
November 22 2024 15:45 GMT
#15151
For anyone who doesn't know this, triple parentheses like that is a neo-Nazi twitter meme where you pick people who you've decided secretly run the world and identify them as having Jewish heritage.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Triple_parentheses

Literally only Nazis use it (edit: there was a brief attempt by Jews to reclaim it but this ain't that) because only Nazis are dumb enough to think having that kind of code is funny. It's for people who thought "stateless globalist international banking elites" wasn't clear enough.

It's weird how neo-Nazis are so passionately and universally pro Putin online. Like every fucking one of them.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
Falling
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Canada11586 Posts
November 22 2024 15:54 GMT
#15152
Well, I also have seen people of Jewish descent triple parenthesis themselves on their twitter bios as a form of protest against the dog-whistling. But the above was definitely the variety of (((they))) are controlling world affairs, aka the Jewish cabal, the banks, Protocols of Zion conspiracy theory crap, etc.
Moderator5000 of our finest Taliban warriors have been released! Rise up my brothers. Mashalla! al-Donald ibn-Frederick al-Masih allows it.
Manit0u
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
Poland17800 Posts
November 22 2024 17:17 GMT
#15153
On November 23 2024 00:45 KwarK wrote:
It's weird how neo-Nazis are so passionately and universally pro Putin online. Like every fucking one of them.


One would think that his de-nazification attempts would put them against him, no?
Time is precious. Waste it wisely.
KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1164 Posts
November 22 2024 17:38 GMT
#15154
I think justification #17 for the 3 day special operation was "denazification". It came in between "NATO attacked us..by being NATO" and "Ukraine might attack us with geneticly modified anti-slavic pigeons"
"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Tom_
Profile Joined November 2024
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 18:16:16
November 22 2024 17:49 GMT
#15155
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KT_Elwood
Profile Joined July 2015
Germany1164 Posts
November 22 2024 18:16 GMT
#15156
What's your point?

Ukraine shoudl have just rolled over, belly up and accept a president like Lukashenko?


"First he eats our dogs, and then he taxes the penguins... Donald Trump truly is the Donald Trump of our generation. " -DPB
Tom_
Profile Joined November 2024
5 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 18:28:24
November 22 2024 18:18 GMT
#15157
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 18:52:06
November 22 2024 18:30 GMT
#15158
On November 23 2024 02:49 Tom_ wrote:


Maybe it's a problem that your positions evolve based on what some prick on the internet says. Couldn't be me.
No will to live, no wish to die
Tom_
Profile Joined November 2024
5 Posts
November 22 2024 18:36 GMT
#15159
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Nebuchad
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Switzerland12486 Posts
Last Edited: 2024-11-22 18:52:18
November 22 2024 18:40 GMT
#15160
On November 23 2024 03:36 Tom_ wrote:


I didn't force you to post this picture did I. If you double down on a bad belief because people yell at you for it it is indeed a you problem, the entire logic of the meme is backwards.
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