EPTDemocratic Republic I think was the preferred nomenclature in the beginning, but it got shortened to democracy over time. Same as the democratic-republican to democratic party.
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Democratic Republic I think was the preferred nomenclature in the beginning, but it got shortened to democracy over time. Same as the democratic-republican to democratic party. | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States24211 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:17 Erasme wrote: Depends. If they just can't be bothered to do it, yes. If they are suppressed, no. Depends on what "can't be bothered" and "suppressed" mean. Like if it's technically not impossible are they being suppressed? How about if they have to wait 2 hours? 4 hours? Voter ID? Felony disenfranchisement? and so on. | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
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GreenHorizons
United States24211 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:39 Mohdoo wrote: There is no reason a debate should be in person. Trump just wants to infect biden lol For the safety of the country. Best to have the candidates immune from the ongoing pandemic. /s | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On October 08 2020 14:26 Mohdoo wrote: I'd like it if we could just cancel the next election VP debate. Why is that? | ||
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JimmiC
Canada22817 Posts
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
Can you name a single thing of value you have ever gotten out of a single VP debate? Its just VP playing defense for big poppa every time. What would be interesting would be to have a VP debate where the topic of the presidential candidate was strictly forbidden. | ||
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TheTenthDoc
United States9561 Posts
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:39 Mohdoo wrote: There is no reason a debate should be in person. Trump just wants to infect biden lol Ideally we're not in the middle of a plague with one of the debate participants being a reckless plaguespreader. But you can't have everything you want. | ||
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NrG.Bamboo
United States2756 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:45 Mohdoo wrote: Can you name a single thing of value you have ever gotten out of a single VP debate? Its just VP playing defense for big poppa every time. What would be interesting would be to have a VP debate where the topic of the presidential candidate was strictly forbidden. The discussion generated by the viewers is valuable to me. But I agree that it would be more fruitful if they focused more on their own points. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
This comes on the heels of a report that Trump forced Drs that treated him in 2019 to sign an (unenforceable) NDA | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:53 Nevuk wrote: The most notable VP debate historically was Cheney v Edwards. It's the only one that actually resulted in noticeable poll movement, and even then, it was 1%. Cheney was brilliant at debating and Edwards was awful. Cheney may be an evil SOB, but he was always very intelligent. Short of a massive mismatch like that there's almost never going to be movement. There were also other ones that were a total stomp, like Bentsen vs Quayle, that didn't matter because the presidential candidates were more important. Although, I'd say that at least qualitatively it seemed like Biden vs Ryan at least blunted the momentum that Romney got in the first debate in 2012. That, or the really poorly timed "47 percent" video. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:57 LegalLord wrote: There were also other ones that were a total stomp, like Bentsen vs Quayle, that didn't matter because the presidential candidates were more important. Although, I'd say that at least qualitatively it seemed like Biden vs Ryan at least blunted the momentum that Romney got in the first debate in 2012. That, or the really poorly timed "47 percent" video. Possibly. Cheney was perceived as much more important than the average VP even in 2004, though not as important as we later came to realize he was. As memorable as the potato thing was, no other VP debate has ever provably moved the polls at all. There's a 538 article on this, I'll go find it. | ||
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Doublemint
Austria8760 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:57 Nevuk wrote: Pelosi just said that we're going to be talking about the 25th amendment tomorrow. Does she know something we don't or is this just (unusual) trolling from her? This comes on the heels of a report that Trump forced Drs that treated him in 2019 to sign an (unenforceable) NDA https://twitter.com/adallos/status/1314155510782980096 Maybe this is related to this story. Didn't he blow up the talks YESTERDAY? Today everything is fine and talks are productive again? You get whiplash with this guy I swear. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:59 Nevuk wrote: Possibly. Cheney was perceived as much more important than the average VP even in 2004, though not as important as we later came to realize he was. As memorable as the potato thing was, no other VP debate has ever provably moved the polls at all. There's a 538 article on this, I'll go find it. Although Quayle certainly made a fool of himself with the potato thing, the debate moment of interest was "You're No Jack Kennedy." Deeply memorable, but ultimately irrelevant. | ||
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22492 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:57 Nevuk wrote: I don't think she knows anything special and assume this is purely political bluster but the President is on a bunch of medication that can potentially influence his mental state and this administration cannot be trusted to handle it privately so asking questions publicly is what needs to happen.Pelosi just said that we're going to be talking about the 25th amendment tomorrow. Does she know something we don't or is this just (unusual) trolling from her? | ||
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Mohdoo
United States15743 Posts
On October 09 2020 00:57 Nevuk wrote: Pelosi just said that we're going to be talking about the 25th amendment tomorrow. Does she know something we don't or is this just (unusual) trolling from her? This comes on the heels of a report that Trump forced Drs that treated him in 2019 to sign an (unenforceable) NDA https://twitter.com/adallos/status/1314155510782980096 It's a good grenade to chuck over the fence. "Talking" about it is the responsible thing to do. It is important for the conversation to take place. Anyone even talking about the idea of the 25th amendment is purely positive for Biden. Just like when Trump says things like "people are talking about Clinton being a rapist, its what I hear", he is making no indication he believes Clinton is a rapist, technically. He's just saying people ought to talk about it. Same with Pelosi here. Saying she plans to hold a vote regarding the 25th amendment would be a TERRIBLE idea, but saying its being discussed is purely positive from a propaganda perspective. | ||
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Erasme
Bahamas15899 Posts
On October 09 2020 01:08 Doublemint wrote: Maybe this is related to this story. Didn't he blow up the talks YESTERDAY? Today everything is fine and talks are productive again? You get whiplash with this guy I swear. No. This is quite simple, Trump will say everything and anything in hopes that his supporters will cherry pick the part they like. Remember: Fine people on both sides + Soros is backing antifa + Qanon is clearly antisemitism. But then he also moved the embassy to Jerusalem to get better relations with them. In the end, he is just a liar. eu.detroitnews.com + Show Spoiler + The court filing also alleges the conspirators twice conducted surveillance at Whitmer's vacation home and discussed kidnapping her to a remote location in Wisconsin to stand "trial" for treason prior to the Nov. 3 election. "Several members talked about murdering 'tyrants' or 'taking' a sitting governor," an FBI agent wrote in the affidavit. "The group decided they needed to increase their numbers and encouraged each other to talk to their neighbors and spread their message." Far right terrorism is expanding like never before under Trump. | ||
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
https://www.technologyreview.com/2020/10/07/1009664/trumps-antibody-treatment-was-tested-using-cells-from-an-abortion/ | ||
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