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FaCE_1
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
Canada6172 Posts
January 13 2020 11:28 GMT
#41
The Guitar hero clone segment was pretty crazy too.
n_n
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 13 2020 20:36 GMT
#42
On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.
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Zambrah
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United States7305 Posts
January 13 2020 20:58 GMT
#43
On January 14 2020 05:36 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.


I believe it means letting people know which pronouns they'd prefer to be referred by
Incremental change is the Democrat version of Trickle Down economics.
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18828 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-13 21:58:40
January 13 2020 21:58 GMT
#44
The basic scenario is that a transgender person appears on stream, chat floods with folks using a pre-transition pronoun, and the stream runners have to decide what they’re going to tolerate. GDQ has a relatively large transgender following, so they’ve decided to take a harder line on pronoun use than other streams/events have.

Some folks have apparently decided that this is a tragedy of monumental proportions, which would be laughably stupid if it weren’t so dishearteningly sad.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
January 13 2020 22:02 GMT
#45
Oh, so respecting people is the "disgusting politicization" of the "radical left"? I wish there was more of that.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2557 Posts
January 13 2020 23:11 GMT
#46
On January 14 2020 05:36 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 13 2020 04:47 Fleetfeet wrote:
I was impressed/surprised that there were pronoun callouts for a lot of the runners (he/him), and I can see why that would worry or upset some more conservative people. Not that I think people with that mindset are right, but I don't think starting the argument of 'who started it' is terribly productive.

What do you mean by pronoun callout? I only watched about an hour of gameplay this year; not really sure what that phrase even means, if I'm being honest.


Basically what Farva said. In cultures accepting of transgendered people, a polite thing to do is to request a person's preferred pronouns and be respectful of that. An example would be me introducing myself in such an environment would be "My name's Geoff, He/Him."

In agdq, there was a little pronoun callout [he/him] beside the runner's name in some cases.
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 00:33:58
January 14 2020 00:18 GMT
#47
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 00:50:53
January 14 2020 00:40 GMT
#48
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 14 2020 00:59 GMT
#49
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification? How long is a long time?
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Fleetfeet
Profile Blog Joined May 2014
Canada2557 Posts
January 14 2020 02:21 GMT
#50
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 02:35:49
January 14 2020 02:34 GMT
#51
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
January 14 2020 03:19 GMT
#52
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

Show nested quote +
How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
January 14 2020 03:25 GMT
#53
On January 14 2020 12:19 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|


Maybe Nyovne was thinking about something completely different, but I'm skeptical of the juiciness anyway.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
NrG.Bamboo
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States2756 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-01-14 04:49:15
January 14 2020 03:41 GMT
#54
On January 14 2020 12:25 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 14 2020 12:19 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 11:21 Fleetfeet wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.
The way I imagined it by the phrase was, like, "runners/couch please sound off and give your gender identity with your ID" which sounds wacky, but hey, people are complaining for SOME reason, right?


Haha nah, nothing so forced as making people declare their gender identities, more allowing a space where people can declare their preferred pronouns if they so choose.

That sounds reasonable.

On January 14 2020 11:34 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:59 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:40 TheNewEra wrote:
On January 14 2020 09:18 NrG.Bamboo wrote:
Oh, I've never heard that in my life; just confused me a bit. I guess that seems.. inclusive? Something about it seems forced but that might just be because of my surroundings.

To note is that people, trans or just supporters, at GDQs have written their preferred pronouns unoffcially on their official cards for a long time. So it was just common courtesy to ask runners before a run: "do you want us to show your preferred pronoun, if so which".

It's just something that shouldn't hurt anyone but probably means the world to some of the runners/couch/audience/viewers.

I see. Sorry to nitpick but I really am an ignorant fellow here, what do you mean about unofficial/official cards? As in identification?

No worries. Sorry I'm not speaking in my natural language. What I meant with your official card is I guess your identification card.The kind of thing you wear on your heart to clarify who you are. Many people have said on those what their preferred pronouns are.

How long is a long time?

I've been watching for a long time but my first (out of 3) GDQs in attendance has been in 2016 and peole were already doing it at that point

No problem bud I appreciate the clarification. I don't really see what the problem is (and trust me, I would love to have a problem with this) in regards to allowing someone to say "hey please don't call me a woman" or whatever it may be.

I thought this would be juicier :|


Maybe Nyovne was thinking about something completely different, but I'm skeptical of the juiciness anyway.

Well, I do think that it's extremely silly for Trihex to be unable to attend. I'm not sure about SHiFT's drama details, but his ban seems odd. And, of course, PvtCb's situation seems like something I'd be worth arguing about if I weren't worried about derailing things further..

Just saying, there are a couple of bans that don't sit well with me, although I understand that a mainstream charity event needs to have a certain level of sanitation.
I need to protect all your life you can enjoy the vibrant life of your battery
Velr
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Switzerland10713 Posts
January 14 2020 07:24 GMT
#55
They are harsher than any other big event i know.

Imho this event is just boring when compared to its earlier years, which is sad and partially to blame on the above policy.
Well, it has become a safehaven for the weirdest sorts of transanything and thats fine, just not for me.
Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 14 2020 08:10 GMT
#56
Once again, the down to earth STRONG right is terrified of literally pronouns.
"Technically the dictionary has zero authority on the meaning or words" - Rodya
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States44342 Posts
January 14 2020 10:00 GMT
#57
It's unfortunate that being supportive and inclusive of a frequently ostracised group is labeled as weird, boring, inappropriate, and overly political, but I'm sure it adds/keeps more viewers than it loses and it's the ethical thing to do, so it's likely a smart business decision and I definitely support it morally.

Anyways, with the exception of occasional conservative fuss, it seems like this was another hugely rewarding and helpful marathon for charity I look forward to SGDQ in the summer, to see if we can continue to break records
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Artisreal
Profile Joined June 2009
Germany9235 Posts
January 14 2020 11:43 GMT
#58
On January 14 2020 16:24 Velr wrote:
They are harsher than any other big event i know.

Imho this event is just boring when compared to its earlier years, which is sad and partially to blame on the above policy.
Well, it has become a safehaven for the weirdest sorts of transanything and thats fine, just not for me.

How are the two things - the event becoming boring in your POV and it being inclusive - related?
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Starecat
Profile Joined August 2014
938 Posts
January 24 2020 13:18 GMT
#59
From all of GDQ bans the ones that I don't agree are Bonesaw, Trihex and Luzbelheim right after running FF8 this year, this makes the whole passion they showed on their run really bittersweet that he was basically pulled from the couch.
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