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On June 19 2007 15:22 XaI)CyRiC wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2007 14:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:On June 19 2007 14:42 mnm wrote:
I KNOW SILK SCREENING IS BEST BUT I AM NOT ORDERING IN BULK. lol, how do you know. Once we pick up a design you could take all the pre-orders and maybe order in bulk (might be cheaper that way anyways) Quality is the most important thing don't you think? How could she not know if she herself is not going to order in bulk? I'm not sure if you understand that the site is not going to take a mass order from members, have them printed and sent to one location, to then be distributed by someone (definitely not mnm). The whole reason Cafepress is being suggested is because it sets it up so that each person can order their own shirt after the shirt has been designed. The site not only takes your design and makes shirts from it, it also serves as an online shop from where these shirts can then be ordered.As made clear by mnm numerous times already, we are NOT going to be ordering these shirts in bulk unless someone is willing to put up the money for a mass order and then distribute the shirts to each individual member who ordered one on their own time. No one on the staff is willing to do this, and I highly doubt any members would be either.
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On June 19 2007 16:33 Cambium wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2007 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote:
If its my money on the line how can you not trust me to come through? Well, not to say you are trustworthy or not trustworthy, there are more things involved other than money. For instance, we would have to trust that you would get the shirts, and then mail every one of them out to everyone all over the world. Just like when you are buying something from any online store, you have to place trust in them that they would send you what you want, right? In our case, you are that store, and we are the consumers.
I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either.
Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.).
TL takes their cut.
Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
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Anyways what do you guys think of a design like this?
edit - these are obviously rough drafts
I would add more detail, shading, highlights etc. Maybe draw a unit or 2 lurking behind the letters.
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On June 19 2007 16:51 CharlieMurphy wrote:Show nested quote +On June 19 2007 16:33 Cambium wrote:On June 19 2007 16:19 CharlieMurphy wrote:
If its my money on the line how can you not trust me to come through? Well, not to say you are trustworthy or not trustworthy, there are more things involved other than money. For instance, we would have to trust that you would get the shirts, and then mail every one of them out to everyone all over the world. Just like when you are buying something from any online store, you have to place trust in them that they would send you what you want, right? In our case, you are that store, and we are the consumers. I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do. Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either. Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.). TL takes their cut. Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
My post was directed towards the "trust" part 
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Right, no one is saying that this is going to be hard, but as CyRiC has said, this is about trust, and this is why only a forum moderator should do it.
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On June 19 2007 16:48 shimmy wrote:Perfection.
agreed, i don't want some futuristic crazy looking front-back gaudy shirt. this design is simple, cute, and meaningful. please include this in your final sales!
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On June 19 2007 16:54 CharlieMurphy wrote:Anyways what do you guys think of a design like this? edit - these are obviously rough drafts I would add more detail, shading, highlights etc. Maybe draw a unit or 2 lurking behind the letters.
Absolutely horrible
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On June 19 2007 16:51 CharlieMurphy wrote:
I'm not gonna argue whether or not you guys trust me. All I'm saying is its not that hard to do.
Store Running Member throws down a lump sum buys a lot of TL shirts in bulk and silk screens the design. Don't have to be online to do this either.
Members place orders/send check through whatever filter (paypal, etc.).
TL takes their cut.
Store Member sends it out. Could even use Ebay for this.
Some things I think we need for anyone to consider being the "Store Running Member":
1. Be willing to front the money for bulk order.
2. Be willing to have bulk order delivered to you.
3. Be willing to then "sell" the shirts to members without making a profit (i.e. sell at cost + shipping)
4. Be able to collect payment of money in a way that people feel safe transmitting their money through. I don't buy things online very often, so I'm not sure how Paypal works in terms of transferring funds only when the goods are shipped.
5. Find a way to deliver the shirts to members around the world that wouldn't be more expensive than them ordering them directly from Cafepress. From what I understand, using Ebay would add some fees to this? I'm not sure where Cafepress ships the shirts from, but if shipping them from CharlieMurphy's (or whoever volunteers) location costs more, then I see another additional cost.
As far as I know, TL.net doesn't plan on profiting from this venture, so we wouldn't be taking a cut. Aside from that, I still think the best way to go would be with Cafepress. The shirts are relatively cheap (so long as our design is simple) which makes them more affordable to our members and also allows them to order more in case they want more or the one they got gets worn out, the site offers up its own shop service so that no one has to go through the hassle of playing merchant (and thus potentially getting screwed if people are slow to/don't pay or change their minds about buying a shirt), the site appears trustworthy and easy to use, and it'd be easy to make more designs later if it goes well.
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You also need to be able to cope with high demand (in case demand is high). Have a quick turn around time (from receiving, to packaging, to shipping). And be responsible for any lost orders, take complaints, have a secure way of taking orders and making sure you are thorough in getting all information, and be around to accept orders for the rest of your life.
Big diff between our tshirt selling strategy and gosugamers is that they sold 40 shirts in bulk at one time at one event. We intend to find a solution that will provide shirts for tl long term, to everyone interested, everywhere.
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Yeah, another thing I forgot to mention is that people have to somehow trust this person enough to provide them with personal information like their home address. I don't know about other members, but I'm not comfortable giving that information to just anyone on the Internet.
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Forgot to include the high res file of my interceptor-tl logo.
http://i11.tinypic.com/4yikso4.png
Oh and PLEASE people, stop posting those sandlot logo t-shirts all over the place unless you post a HIGH RESOLUTION version of it. All of those you posted will look incredible blurry, bad and small on a T-Shirt.
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Oh those were interceptors?
>_>
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On June 19 2007 16:54 CharlieMurphy wrote:Anyways what do you guys think of a design like this? edit - these are obviously rough drafts I would add more detail, shading, highlights etc. Maybe draw a unit or 2 lurking behind the letters.
Is this deliberately vagina like?
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On June 19 2007 16:54 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Anyways what do you guys think of a design like this?
edit - these are obviously rough drafts
I would add more detail, shading, highlights etc. Maybe draw a unit or 2 lurking behind the letters. I really like those, however they don't exactly fit to TL imo. Also alot of detail = more costs.
I love that thing though!
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i love both of melee's designs
especially the one with the marine on the back
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I would not wear a shirt with a pony on it.
I'm very fond of the Marine, zealot and lurker though.
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# CharlieMurphy
I dont like that "TL". Its not exactly flashy, but its like its trying to prove something. Might be something junior high kids would like.
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The best by far, is melee's 1st one.
The second one is ruined by the "me gosu" at the bottom.
If you get around to making that shirt, PM me, and ship it.
The other shirts with the graphics don't work. Graphics on a shirt have to be done right or not at all. Otherwise, you're just wearing a wolf shirt.
+ Show Spoiler +Don Juan (Exalted) says... You would not believe the pussy I pull in this thing. Ol Tripod says... This shirt is excellent for pulling in husky Native American bitches with diabetes. Tomash says... My power has increased 100 fold with the addition of this shirt to my already vast aresenal of wolf shirts.
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ROFL his name is Don Juan hahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahah
Exalted you never cease to amaze me.
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