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Simberto
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Germany12005 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-26 20:41:16
8 hours ago
#119741
On September 27 2026 03:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2026 21:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
#1. Forgetting to declare is not a crime.
#2. Like many teenagers I ripped off the retail stores I worked for. The shoplifting I did I was under 16.
#3. The other 'law' I broke when I reverse engineered the report writer at my first software engineering job was unenforceable. They left an 18 year old fox to guard the hen house. It is impossible to tell whether or not I used any of the company's code once I ran it through the compiler I built.

1. Okay but we're not talking about that. You self described a conspiracy to engage in smuggling, not forgetting.
2. Most don't steal $20k in 1980 money and then brag about it.
3. You're forgetting the other crimes you also bragged about.


As a comparison, here are the worst crimes i committed as a teenager (and all that i remember):

Smoking weed
Stealing a pack of batteries in the supermarket and getting caught
Playing pirated video games
Listening to pirated music

Total damage if you don't count the copyright stuff, about 5€. With the copyright, no idea, but i know that i wouldn't have had money for the games i pirated anyways, and i didn't redistribute stuff, so not a lot of damage there either.

Edit: I guess there was also some underage drinking when i was 15 (beer is legal at age 16 here)
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6532 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-26 21:49:05
7 hours ago
#119742
On September 27 2026 04:19 Billyboy wrote:
Trump rejected the latest Iranian proposal, saying “they’re in no rush”. So expect fuel prices to continue to rise, especially diesel .

You know what they say, the hardest part of a 3 day war is the first couple of years.

This is going to be hard for you to understand but for 2 reasons the proposal you refer to is a non-starter.

1) Iran's president and foreign minister's idea of a 7 day truce at the UN is not something they actually have the power to sign on to. The Iranian power players are not one big happy family all working together, and even if they were, the president would not be the one at the top. This is not a western democracy. The top guy is allegedly the Supreme Leader (who hasn't been seen for months), but in any case however fractured "Iran" is, the proposal is empty nonsense. The people who proposed it can't speak for or control the people who'd have to do it. It's a fishing expedition, or if anything a hail mary.

2) Their proposal was "end the blockade and we open the Strait." Even if 1) didn't apply, that's a joke.

They don't control the Strait. 13-14 million barrels are moving daily on the south route. Nothing is going on the north route, and nothing wants to go except Iranian oil.

In addition to Hormuz flows, something like 4 million barrels daily of Saudi stuff is still going via bypass, which goes out from the Red Sea. That I can tell. (That peaked at like 7 million in the crunch.)

The pre-war traffic of Hormuz averaged ~20 million barrels a day.

What's missing? The product that isn't getting out is Iranian. That's good. Now, the fact Iranian oil can't move does raise the demand and therefore contribute to the price of crude when people like China can't buy it, but it's good. That particular supply hole in the market exists but it's not growing any bigger.

The other hole in the market is diesel tankers don't want to go to the Gulf because they realized Iran is fucking crazy. And they realized that after "Iran" randomly struck the refineries and infrastructure of neighboring countries that put out diesel. (Yeah the country where striking their desalination plants would be a "war crime" did that. Blame them. Remember this is so they can never strike worse, especially with nuclear weapons.) Diesel is still spiking over gas because it has lower elasticity. Opening the Strait to Iranian crude wouldn't mend the diesel issues. It's just a matter of time to reopen diesel infrastructure and convince remaining countries to stop blowing each other's refineries up.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2420 Posts
6 hours ago
#119743
On September 27 2026 06:34 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2026 04:19 Billyboy wrote:
Trump rejected the latest Iranian proposal, saying “they’re in no rush”. So expect fuel prices to continue to rise, especially diesel .

You know what they say, the hardest part of a 3 day war is the first couple of years.

This is going to be hard for you to understand but for 2 reasons the proposal you refer to is a non-starter.

1) Iran's president and foreign minister's idea of a 7 day truce at the UN is not something they actually have the power to sign on to. The Iranian power players are not one big happy family all working together, and even if they were, the president would not be the one at the top. This is not a western democracy. The top guy is allegedly the Supreme Leader (who hasn't been seen for months), but in any case however fractured "Iran" is, the proposal is empty nonsense. The people who proposed it can't speak for or control the people who'd have to do it. It's a fishing expedition, or if anything a hail mary.

2) Their proposal was "end the blockade and we open the Strait." Even if 1) didn't apply, that's a joke.

They don't control the Strait. 13-14 million barrels are moving daily on the south route. Nothing is going on the north route, and nothing wants to go except Iranian oil.

In addition to Hormuz flows, something like 4 million barrels daily of Saudi stuff is still going via bypass, which goes out from the Red Sea. That I can tell. (That peaked at like 7 million in the crunch.)

The pre-war traffic of Hormuz averaged ~20 million barrels a day.

What's missing? The product that isn't getting out is Iranian. That's good. Now, the fact Iranian oil can't move does raise the demand and therefore contribute to the price of crude when people like China can't buy it, but it's good. That particular supply hole in the market exists but it's not growing any bigger.

The other hole in the market is diesel tankers don't want to go to the Gulf because they realized Iran is fucking crazy. And they realized that after "Iran" randomly struck the refineries and infrastructure of neighboring countries that put out diesel. (Yeah the country where striking their desalination plants would be a "war crime" did that. Blame them. Remember this is so they can never strike worse, especially with nuclear weapons.) Diesel is still spiking over gas because it has lower elasticity. Opening the Strait to Iranian crude wouldn't mend the diesel issues. It's just a matter of time to reopen diesel infrastructure and convince remaining countries to stop blowing each other's refineries up.

What do you think was hard for me? I just stated what happened. You made up what I thought about it, because you’re a mush brain.
KwarK
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States44320 Posts
5 hours ago
#119744
Weird that Iran randomly struck those nations right after they were attacked by US forces based in those nations. Timing worked out pretty well for them I guess, their random attack got given the appearance of retaliation.
ModeratorThe angels have the phone box
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27405 Posts
4 hours ago
#119745
On September 27 2026 03:13 KwarK wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 26 2026 21:26 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
#1. Forgetting to declare is not a crime.
#2. Like many teenagers I ripped off the retail stores I worked for. The shoplifting I did I was under 16.
#3. The other 'law' I broke when I reverse engineered the report writer at my first software engineering job was unenforceable. They left an 18 year old fox to guard the hen house. It is impossible to tell whether or not I used any of the company's code once I ran it through the compiler I built.

1. Okay but we're not talking about that. You self described a conspiracy to engage in smuggling, not forgetting.
2. Most don't steal $20k in 1980 money and then brag about it.
3. You're forgetting the other crimes you also bragged about.

Most don’t steal 20k in 80s money full stop, that tale is nonsensical
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
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LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3239 Posts
4 hours ago
#119746
On September 27 2026 04:19 Billyboy wrote:
Trump rejected the latest Iranian proposal, saying “they’re in no rush”. So expect fuel prices to continue to rise, especially diesel .

You know what they say, the hardest part of a 3 day war is the first couple of years.


Billionaire who refills his gas tanks on the taxpayer's dime doesn't care about gas prices.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2420 Posts
3 hours ago
#119747
On September 27 2026 09:26 LightSpectra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2026 04:19 Billyboy wrote:
Trump rejected the latest Iranian proposal, saying “they’re in no rush”. So expect fuel prices to continue to rise, especially diesel .

You know what they say, the hardest part of a 3 day war is the first couple of years.


Billionaire who refills his gas tanks on the taxpayer's dime doesn't care about gas prices.

He only cares about himself clearly. But the Republicans should care, which is probably why Trump is not in their ads.
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