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Gorsameth
Profile Joined April 2010
Netherlands22609 Posts
1 hour ago
#119601
I don't think JJR is aware that the world has come one man saying no away from nuclear war not once, but twice.
Vasily Arkhipov and Stanislav Petrov

We got lucky sofar, one day that luck will run out.
It ignores such insignificant forces as time, entropy, and death
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6518 Posts
53 minutes ago
#119602
On September 24 2026 00:07 LightSpectra wrote:
It's such a great red line that it mysteriously vanished in the aether a few months after they drew it.

They haven't allowed enriching at this point, no. The US hasn't done that.

Your problem is two-fold.

First is you think the other quote was necessarily about enrichment because Aaron Rupar added that when he tweeted about it. It wasn't. That's why you both cut off the question.
“If they come back after the signing of this and say they want to continue to have a civilian nuclear program, is that acceptable to you?”
“It is a little hard, though, when you say that somebody wants it, other people have it, other adjoining states have it, and you're not letting them have it for purposes of electricity and things like that. It's always a little tough. You have to use a little common sense.”

Second is you think musing aloud when asked questions equates to policy, which it doesn't. Even saying "Maybe they could have enrichment" (which wasn't said, but hypothetically) wouldn't be changing the line. Because they still weren't allowed to.

Actually third is you probably don't even know whether there should be a line or how to enforce it, and if so to what percent and how the US, IAEA, or international community would verify and guarantee compliance. Answer is without very stringent mechanisms, nothing at all, don't need enrichment to run one token power plant. Definitely don't need above 5%.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3224 Posts
50 minutes ago
#119603
The best kinds of red lines are the ones you immediately surrender. Like if you say "adultery is my red line in marriage, I would immediately divorce an unfaithful spouse" but then your spouse cheats on you once and you clarify "well it was purely hypothetical and not actually a policy stance", that will definitely ensure a lifelong happy and secure marriage from that point onward.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
GreenHorizons
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States24355 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-23 16:15:19
45 minutes ago
#119604
On September 18 2026 01:30 dyhb wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 17 2026 23:56 Velr wrote:
Is there an ignore function on TL? It's kinda annoying to constantly scroll over this clown.
You'll still have to scroll past all the repeated calls from a half dozen people to not reply to him, and about the same group making a reply just to troll or insult. The prevalence of this kind of repeated interaction apparently led the entire website's volunteer moderation team to give up and leave the thread, or know better than to try.

So it'll have to ignore his posts, every post that quote replies to his posts, and frankly every post that mentions his name. Someone go write a script for that.

Yeah, that went about as well as I imagined.

Ironically, if anyone did it, they'd probably figure out the (piss-poor shitpost spam from the) "opposition" for lols does far more to propagate the oBlade/JJR style nonsense than the oBlade/JJR types themselves. As the last dozen or so pages clearly demonstrate this observable fact.
"People like to look at history and think 'If that was me back then, I would have...' We're living through history, and the truth is, whatever you are doing now is probably what you would have done then" "Scratch a Liberal..."
Billyboy
Profile Joined September 2024
2400 Posts
41 minutes ago
#119605
You both miss the point. Often the responses are fun. The initial shit is what you want to avoid.
Like for you, it’s the passive aggressive bitchy posts that you claim to hate but make on repeat that people want to avoid. Not the often hilarious responses to your nonsense.
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States6518 Posts
34 minutes ago
#119606
On September 24 2026 00:55 LightSpectra wrote:
The best kinds of red lines are the ones you immediately surrender. Like if you say "adultery is my red line in marriage, I would immediately divorce an unfaithful spouse" but then your spouse cheats on you once and you clarify "well it was purely hypothetical and not actually a policy stance", that will definitely ensure a lifelong happy and secure marriage from that point onward.

Just as a curiosity, are you capable of understanding that it's possible for a country to have a civilian nuclear program while doing no enrichment themselves whatsoever, or not? (That's what the UAE, a Muslim country in a place of the world called the Persian Gulf, that doesn't want to blow up Israel or the US, does.)

Like if you can't even clear that bar, it's just hopeless.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
LightSpectra
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
United States3224 Posts
Last Edited: 2026-09-23 16:38:53
7 minutes ago
#119607
We already crossed hopeless when you said that we ought to ignore Trump's direct answer to a direct question because it was just his hypothetical musing. You can't play the "oh come on, he's just doddering old man with dementia that thinks he's Jesus Christ, don't take the things he says too seriously" card a day after finger-wagging that about how gracefully he's doing a job that would leave the rest of us "a crying ball of no idea what to do" lol.
"don't try to pull a LightSpectra-Trumper"
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland27391 Posts
2 minutes ago
#119608
On September 24 2026 01:37 LightSpectra wrote:
We already crossed hopeless when you said that we ought to ignore Trump's direct answer to a direct question because it was just his hypothetical musing. You can't play the "oh come on, he's just doddering old man with dementia that thinks he's Jesus Christ, don't take the things he says too seriously" card a day after finger-wagging that about how gracefully he's doing a job that would leave the rest of us "a crying ball of no idea what to do" lol.

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