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On May 23 2025 20:51 Velr wrote:
The speedrun to authoritarian shithole is almost as impressive as oBlade and others gobbling it up.
Yeah authoritarian shithole is when a legislature passes a law and a government agency uses it.
Authoritarian shithole is especially when someone uses a law after it was already established that the law doesn't really matter and everyone had basically a hall pass for it. It's authoritarian when you don't let people do whatever the fuck they want anymore. In fact, law itself is authoritarian. Republicans existing is authoritarianism. The concept of a western government, is authoritarianism.
And if there's one thing authoritarian is known for, it's courts putting an injunction on a federal block on students at a university almost immediately after it happens. Perhaps the defining feature of authoritarianism. Which makes this a textbook case, literally.
Otherwise the erudite rhetoric of
On May 23 2025 20:53 KT_Elwood wrote:
Antisemitism has been defeated!
Praise DJT!
Harvard (Who is that guy anyway? Sad!) shall be henceforth known as "Donald Trump, Friend of Jews, University"
And since you are all catholic now with Pope Leo the XIV (like a superbowl, very nice, thats what you get when you vote AMERICAN!) reject that big anti-semite from hundreds of years ago, Martin LOSer - I know it's luther, but it should have been loser, you know, like Joe Biden who lost the 2024 election!
Ban all evangelical and protestant anti-semitic churches that he sprang into life, that are just FAKE CHRISTIANS anyway.
TAX EXEMPT STATUS REVOKED.
Also the Antisemites ruined the cars, the big FORD company was so big and beautifil, until that one guy who owned it was a glowing Antisemite!
All Ford Cars will now be called FREEDOM CARS. And the Ford family will get deported to Sudan.
Thank you for your attention in this matter!
somehow bypassed my impressive but otherwise occupied gobbler.
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The university’s leadership argues many of the government’s requests, including an “audit” of the “viewpoint” of its students and staff, go far beyond the role of the federal government and may violate Harvard’s constitutional rights.
DHS is demanding all records of international students participating in activities deemed “illegal,” “dangerous or violent” or threatening over the past five years, Noem’s letter says, pointing especially to audio or video footage of “any protest activity” involving foreign students on campus.
Aw golly gee I can’t see where people are getting those authoritarian vibes from.
The first bolded part, I still think it’s a very politically motivated bullshit power play overall with colleges, but OK. Case can be made there.
The second. Any protest activity? Any?
What’s authoritarian about demanding a list of foreign students involved in any kind of protest so you can potentially deport them.
It’s a very pro free-speech move. Good to see conservatives are delivering on free speech on college campuses after making a song and dance about it for years.
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There is some interesting articles that pop up everyone in a while that show the parallels between narcissist's and how Trump is running the country. The TLDRs is basically about keeping everyone in a permanent state of fight or flight because of constant chaos of crisis manufacturing. Seems pretty spot on. And if you buy the comparison what other countries are currently doing to deal with the US, not good at all.
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A couple of funny things to lighten the mood. Trump claimed he invented the word equalize (perhaps soon he will take credit for the question mark). And in the big beautiful bill there was a line in it to remove the excise tax from tanning beds!
I can't believe this is real, but of course it is.
“So that the American public knows what this bill does… Would you please read page 901, line 20?” Leger Fernández asked Smith.
“I think it’d be better if you read it,” Smith replied.
“Oh, he doesn’t want to read it!” Leger Fernández said with a laugh. “This is in their bill. They don’t want to read a line from their own bill.”
Rep. Gwen Moore (D-Wis.) eventually read the provision aloud: “It says Section 11106: Repeal of excise tax on indoor tanning services.”
Amid more laughs, Leger Fernández contrasted the provision, which makes it easier to own a tanning bed, with the bill’s drastic cuts to Medicaid and food assistance. She took a shot at Trump’s tanning habits and wondered aloud if he put that language into the bill.
“There are certain elected officials who appear to have a certain orange hue about them,” she said. “Maybe they want to make sure tanning beds get a little bit of special credit.”
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On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: Show nested quote +The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk
Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth.
Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic.
Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power.
Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up.
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On May 24 2025 02:57 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth. Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic. Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power. Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up.
The greatest victory fascists ever pulled off was brainwashing the world into believing "violence is never the answer" and other such rubbish. Truly straight up propaganda dogshit that spits in the face of thousands of years of human history. And to this day, the only way fascism has ever been defeated. Fascism is human nature.Blood, sweat, and tears have always been necessary to protect democracy.
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On May 24 2025 08:20 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2025 02:57 Zambrah wrote:On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth. Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic. Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power. Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up. The greatest victory fascists ever pulled off was brainwashing the world into believing "violence is never the answer" and other such rubbish. Truly straight up propaganda dogshit that spits in the face of thousands of years of human history. And to this day, the only way fascism has ever been defeated. Fascism is human nature.Blood, sweat, and tears have always been necessary to protect democracy.
Im not sure if theyre responsible for violence is never the answer nonsense, but I definitely agree that that the sentiment is wrong and I agree that history is basically written in blood, just like labor law. Anyone who thinks that we wouldn't still be laboring under monarchs without violence is dumb as hell. Violence has been and still is a crucial tool, because no amount of peaceful protesting or strongly worded letter will stop an authoritarian, or a fascist, or any other number of scumbags from killing you or those you love, once they get enough power and are comfortable using violence then the only solution is to return it with greater force. Ideally we don't need to use violence, but when noone enforces any of the guardrails that exist to prevent the necessity of violence then... well violence is necessary.
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On May 24 2025 02:57 Zambrah wrote:Show nested quote +On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth. Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic. Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power. Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up.
"Stop talking to them, engagement with [...] beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone"
That doesnt sound nazilike... at all...
Regarding all the free speech comments, I remeber asking ages ago, if people would be as comfortable with free speech limitation if Trump was in power. Question itself was rhetorical, if it werent though I guess answer is provided pretty much on daily basis now.
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On May 24 2025 08:20 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2025 02:57 Zambrah wrote:On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth. Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic. Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power. Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up. The greatest victory fascists ever pulled off was brainwashing the world into believing "violence is never the answer" and other such rubbish. Truly straight up propaganda dogshit that spits in the face of thousands of years of human history. And to this day, the only way fascism has ever been defeated. Fascism is human nature.Blood, sweat, and tears have always been necessary to protect democracy.
On May 24 2025 08:20 Mohdoo wrote:Show nested quote +On May 24 2025 02:57 Zambrah wrote:On May 23 2025 05:20 Dan HH wrote:The Trump admin just blocked Harvard from enrolling foreign students, that's not surprising or particularly interesting, it's exactly the kind of move we've come to expect from the vengeful fascists. What I do find worth talking about is the coverage, such as this sentence from the BBC which is a perfect example of sanewashing: The White House has demanded Harvard make changes to hiring, admissions and teaching practices to help fight antisemitism on campus. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c05768jmm11oNow all of you here know why the fascists hate academia, you've seen them cry for years about knowledge making people too liberal, you've seen them fantasize and make plans about bulldozing it numerous times. We've talked about the letter the Trump admin sent to Harvard in which they demand DEI for fascist viewpoints. The antisemitism pretext for punishment only showed up after their refusal to become a brainwashing tool. But what does a person that lacks any of that context understand from that article? That: - the White House is concerned about antisemitism at Harvard - Harvard disagrees that it has a problem with antisemitism - one or the other could be right, idk Shit like sanewashing is part of why I think engaging with fascist fuckfaces in any capacity is bad and wrong. The only engagement a fascist should receive is a fist engaging their mouth. Attacking them doesn’t work, being charitable is actively harmful, working with them is just catastrophic. Stop talking to them, engagement with fascists beyond stomping them into the dirt will never work out for anyone but the fascists. Their perspective isn’t valuable, it isn’t coherent or driven by morals or ethics or any sort of world view beyond whatever it takes to have power. Owning them on the internet is a stupid waste of time, debating them is worthless, fascists have nothing of value to offer the world and should simply be shunned or physically beaten into absolute social irrelevance, and we’re going to have to keep shunning them and beating their asses whenever they pop up. The greatest victory fascists ever pulled off was brainwashing the world into believing "violence is never the answer" and other such rubbish. Truly straight up propaganda dogshit that spits in the face of thousands of years of human history. And to this day, the only way fascism has ever been defeated. Fascism is human nature.Blood, sweat, and tears have always been necessary to protect democracy.
Thats actually liberal thing, if anything nazis proved that sometimes violence is the only answer (unless you believe that there were some nonviolent means which would stop them).
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