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On November 09 2022 09:15 plasmidghost wrote: Is it just me or does it seem like Warnock is outperforming his 2020 results? The early results were expected to favor him but so far he's doing a bit better than expected as far as I can tell. We'll have a better idea when the same-day votes that are expected to favor Republicans come in more significant numbers to see if they meet, exceed, or fall short of expectations. | ||
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My impression of Abrams is not as great. Particularly the part where she blamed losing on voter suppression and never accepted defeat. | ||
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On November 09 2022 09:40 JimmiC wrote: Or that Walker is the (or one of) worst candidate ever. If he wins a potato could since a potato wouldnt be a big negative. Wow he’s actually the candidate? I’d heard snippets via various sports podcasts I follow that occasionally do politics episodes. That guy is actually the candidate? I’d just assumed he’d lost at the primary stage. I haven’t been keeping as much track of US politics lately, specially as this thread is a bit less active and it’s my go-to Fucking hell. | ||
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On November 09 2022 10:13 Mohdoo wrote: I think we are well past the point of Florida being purple. It is not a battleground state. A democrat will not win Florida in the next 10 years. It might be useful to think about how this happened though. Florida is a diverse state with a large Latino population that has increased in recent years. Yet it has turned completely red, so much that even the metropolitan areas like Miami-Dade have this time voted for Ron DeSantis over his Democrat opponent. According to the theories that Democrats have put forward before, the changing demographics of America towards a more diverse country should favour them. Yet this has not been true in Florida. Why? I think both parties need to rethink this issue. | ||
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On November 09 2022 10:36 gobbledydook wrote: It might be useful to think about how this happened though. Florida is a diverse state with a large Latino population that has increased in recent years. Yet it has turned completely red, so much that even the metropolitan areas like Miami-Dade have this time voted for Ron DeSantis over his Democrat opponent. According to the theories that Democrats have put forward before, the changing demographics of America towards a more diverse country should favour them. Yet this has not been true in Florida. Why? I think both parties need to rethink this issue. Legal latinos are largely catholic and largely very racist towards blacks and mexicans. It was only through amazingly racist, ignorant perspectives that democrats assumed latinos were single issue immigration voters. Most of my family is anti-immigration because they see mexicans as an embarrassment to latinos as a whole. It is a common perspective. They wish they were white and they want to be in the white club, so they rally against the illegal mexican immigrants who "make them look bad". Then there's the whole abortion thing. Catholics don't like abortion. Latinos are catholic. | ||
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On November 09 2022 10:36 gobbledydook wrote: It might be useful to think about how this happened though. Florida is a diverse state with a large Latino population that has increased in recent years. Yet it has turned completely red, so much that even the metropolitan areas like Miami-Dade have this time voted for Ron DeSantis over his Democrat opponent. According to the theories that Democrats have put forward before, the changing demographics of America towards a more diverse country should favour them. Yet this has not been true in Florida. Why? I think both parties need to rethink this issue. Latino populations are not a monolith. What a Cuban community values is different than what a Puerto Rican community values, for example. Cubans have traditionally voted Republican because of Castro. Florida being red shouldn't be a surprise to anyone | ||
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On November 09 2022 10:53 Introvert wrote: you guys aren't really explaining what changed though. Hillary won the county by 30 points I think? DeSantis lost it by 20 in 2018. Sure 2020 was closer, but that type of attitude will contribute to a continuing bleed. Part of it is that apparently the national party kind of gave up on Florida and the state party was just kinda bad? At least that is what a lot of Florida dem voters are saying online. They put in a really bad effort and groomer Ron was pretty much unchallenged while the dem was invisible. | ||
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On November 09 2022 10:58 Slaughter wrote: Part of it is that apparently the national party kind of gave up on Florida and the state party was just kinda bad? At least that is what a lot of Florida dem voters are saying online. They put in a really bad effort and groomer Ron was pretty much unchallenged while the dem was invisible. see to me, that sounds like cope. It is true that FL dems have kind of given up, but there is certainly a stronger, underlying cause as to why a Hillary +30 county (or Gillum +20) is now DeSantis by double digits. I contend it's a combination of DeSantis' governance and dems moving left, further than the Hispanic voters in FL. I don't know how you organize your way out of that. | ||
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