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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:06:16
January 06 2021 20:05 GMT
#58801
Apparently the senate has already been evacuated. Which makes this whole thing even more pointless : if they didn't kill several democratic senators, then their attempt failed.




This is an unorganized coup attempt.
plated.rawr
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Norway1676 Posts
January 06 2021 20:07 GMT
#58802
State the action as for what it is - the actions of domestic terrorists.
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Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
January 06 2021 20:08 GMT
#58803
The best way to beat Antifa is to become Antifa for this crew. National Guard time and prison sentences.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:09:14
January 06 2021 20:08 GMT
#58804
God...

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45367 Posts
January 06 2021 20:09 GMT
#58805
Could you imagine the body count if these people weren't white?
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 06 2021 20:09 GMT
#58806
On January 07 2021 05:09 DarkPlasmaBall wrote:
Could you imagine the body count if these people weren't white?

The Capitol steps would be running red if they weren't white
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:11:30
January 06 2021 20:09 GMT
#58807
On January 07 2021 05:07 plated.rawr wrote:
State the action as for what it is - the actions of domestic terrorists.

Which is, as stated in the government report, are the current biggest threat to the US, and have been perpetrated nearly always for the last dozens of years at least, by right wing extremists. For those who still had doubts but won't care anyway.


On January 07 2021 05:08 Danglars wrote:
The best way to beat Antifa is to become Antifa for this crew. National Guard time and prison sentences.


That's on you. Antifa vs right wing extremists, tell me who did the most casualties in the last 40 years and who exactly is imitating who. Stop deflecting.
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plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:14:05
January 06 2021 20:10 GMT
#58808
Trying to find an article source but CNN reports a cop has been shot

Can't find a source, going to mark this as UNCONFIRMED
Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:12:49
January 06 2021 20:11 GMT
#58809
On January 07 2021 05:05 Nevuk wrote:
Apparently the senate has already been evacuated. Which makes this whole thing even more pointless : if they didn't kill several democratic senators, then their attempt failed.

https://twitter.com/Tom_Winter/status/1346904469422833664


This is an unorganized coup attempt.

McConnell and Pence were there to certify the results. You may remember how incensed Trump got with both of them for not going along with his plan.

You can't just march into the Senate and kill enough Senators to stop an incoming President. The electoral college already voted.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
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Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
January 06 2021 20:11 GMT
#58810
On January 07 2021 05:08 Danglars wrote:
The best way to beat Antifa is to become Antifa for this crew. National Guard time and prison sentences.

I legitimately have no idea what you're trying to say here. Antifa definitely aren't members of the national guard and almost none are in prison. Reporters are speculating that some of these are white nationalists based on their flags, who ARE frequently made in prisons.
Liquid`Drone
Profile Joined September 2002
Norway28778 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:16:19
January 06 2021 20:12 GMT
#58811
On January 07 2021 04:55 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2021 04:51 TheTenthDoc wrote:
On January 07 2021 04:46 Danglars wrote:
On January 07 2021 04:40 TheTenthDoc wrote:
Danglars, you probably don't want to lecture people about inaccurately appraising the harms of Trump or "worse-than-Trump" while armed Trump supporters have broken into the Capital Building more or less on his behest.

I mean if you think the worst that can happen with break-the-system-to-fix-the-system is violent riots in the US capitol to end the presidency of someone who can't admit he lost fair and square, you've got another thing coming.


These aren't riots to end the presidency of that man. They're the opposite.

You think they have a prayer of succeeding? Man, I can't imagine the fragility of such a constitutional republic. Gimme your honest odds that this mob of however many thousand successfully keep Trump in office beyond January 20th.


No they're not going to succeed. But this is still way beyond the pale of what is remotely acceptable to support. Following the post-election events, do you still think Trump was a better choice than Biden? It should be fairly easy by now, regardless of your political affiliation. (unless one is an actual fascist. )
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Sermokala
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States14104 Posts
January 06 2021 20:12 GMT
#58812


They breached the chamber.



Someone has been shot.
A wise man will say that he knows nothing. We're gona party like its 2752 Hail Dark Brandon
Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8726 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:16:14
January 06 2021 20:13 GMT
#58813
On January 07 2021 05:01 Erasme wrote:
Wow Danglars being proven wrong once again 4min later. That's twice today bro. Wanna double down again you absolute moron ?


... come one there is no need for that. it looks bad but SO FAR nothing actual bad has happened. well, if you discard the optics and the shit usually following such optics looking at history lol.

but in all honesty where are those dangerous looking storm troopers they brought to Portland?

//edit: ok apparently someone has been shot. scratch the nothing bad has happened part -_-


Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty spirit before the fall.
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15742 Posts
January 06 2021 20:15 GMT
#58814
Reminder: This is what people who say "Well I have to vote for a fascist because he's my party" enable. Blood is on the hands of everyone who held their nose to vote for Trump.
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States45367 Posts
January 06 2021 20:16 GMT
#58815
David Pakman to Trump: "Today's violence is your legacy."
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Nevuk
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States16280 Posts
Last Edited: 2021-01-06 20:16:34
January 06 2021 20:16 GMT
#58816
On January 07 2021 05:13 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2021 05:01 Erasme wrote:
Wow Danglars being proven wrong once again 4min later. That's twice today bro. Wanna double down again you absolute moron ?


... come one there is no need for that. it looks bad but SO FAR nothing actual bad has happened. well, if you discard the optics and the shit usually following such optics looking at history lol.

but in all honesty where are those dangerous looking storm troopers they brought to Portland?



Trump's refusing to deploy the actual military, so only DC police are available. Those were BPD and probably had federal armor supplied to them.

(BTW, this is now a very good argument for DC to be its own state or something similar: Trump shouldn't be able to prevent the defense of congress from terrorists like this).
plasmidghost
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Belgium16168 Posts
January 06 2021 20:16 GMT
#58817
More groups are arriving

Yugoslavia will always live on in my heart
Nouar
Profile Joined May 2009
France3270 Posts
January 06 2021 20:16 GMT
#58818
On January 07 2021 05:11 Nevuk wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2021 05:08 Danglars wrote:
The best way to beat Antifa is to become Antifa for this crew. National Guard time and prison sentences.

I legitimately have no idea what you're trying to say here. Antifa definitely aren't members of the national guard and almost none are in prison. Reporters are speculating that some of these are white nationalists based on their flags, who ARE frequently made in prisons.


He is saying that they are imitating antifa, and that the national guard should act, and they should serve prison time. The dot separates the sentences :-)
NoiR
Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
January 06 2021 20:17 GMT
#58819
On January 07 2021 05:13 Doublemint wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 07 2021 05:01 Erasme wrote:
Wow Danglars being proven wrong once again 4min later. That's twice today bro. Wanna double down again you absolute moron ?


... come one there is no need for that. it looks bad but SO FAR nothing actual bad has happened. well, if you discard the optics and the shit usually following such optics looking at history lol.

but in all honesty where are those dangerous looking storm troopers they brought to Portland?

//edit: ok apparently someone has been shot. scratch the nothing bad has happened part -_-



You mean after the DoD refusing to send the national guard after DC asked them to ? No i'm pretty sure the need for that was 4 years ago.
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Lmui
Profile Joined November 2010
Canada6223 Posts
January 06 2021 20:18 GMT
#58820
The national guard should've been deployed to handle the children. I can't believe the DoD denied a request to deploy them. It makes no sense for the protesters to have gotten this far. I wonder what'd happen if they tried to do the same thing to the white house once Biden's in there.
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