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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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Gorsameth
Netherlands22125 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:11 farvacola wrote: we've had several already, and would have had more if people didn't downright refuse when Trump told them to fire people.For those curious about possible historical comparisons, check out the Saturday Night Massacre that precipitated Nixon’s resignation. Today is Saturday Republicans have made their choice. | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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Nouar
France3270 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:12 Gorsameth wrote: we've had several already, and would have had more if people didn't downright refuse when Trump told them to fire people. Republicans have made their choice. They are too far gone to make a change now. Their political future is intrinsically tied with Trump, so I don't see anyone (barring the odd misfit here and there) doing anything. Just acting surprised for a few minutes then ignoring the matter. | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9780 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:27 farvacola wrote: A dude who i went to law school with is an AUSA In NY, and he won’t tell me much, but he said it looks to him like it’s Epstein related. Take from that what you will. That's what I thought immediately. I'm curious whether it has anything to do with Prince Andrew. | ||
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Simberto
Germany11764 Posts
On June 20 2020 12:42 Nevuk wrote: Barr announced the head of the SDNY was stepping down ("had resigned"). The head of the SDNY said "no, I'm not resigning, and you can't fire me. Only the Senate can" on Twitter shortly after via the SDNY official twitter. Apparently twitter was also how he learned of his own resignation. The SDNY is the location where it has long been rumored that it is holding investigations into Trump, and is where he is expected to be charged after he leaves office for campaign finance violations. It also tends to handle the most explosive investigations in general, so news about it like this matters probably equally to a lower level cabinet position (like interior or agriculture), regardless of the Trump rumors. What? How does this kind of thing happen? How can everyone in the Trump administration be so absurdly incompetent? | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9780 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:34 Simberto wrote: What? How does this kind of thing happen? How can everyone in the Trump administration be so absurdly incompetent? I think the implication is 'quit or we make your life miserable' and most people would just quit. Obviously this guy has balls. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:34 Simberto wrote: What? How does this kind of thing happen? How can everyone in the Trump administration be so absurdly incompetent? Are you still asking? | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
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Simberto
Germany11764 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:35 Jockmcplop wrote: I think the implication is 'quit or we make your life miserable' and most people would just quit. Obviously this guy has balls. Yeah, but even then a competent person would have done that in private, rather via twitter. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On June 20 2020 19:51 Simberto wrote: Yeah, but even then a competent person would have done that in private, rather via twitter. I guess they figured out that their voters had no standard whatsoever anymore when it came to their conduct, the respect of democratic institutions, the normal functioning of justice and their level of corruption. So I would say they probably simply don't give a %#€ | ||
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Jockmcplop
United Kingdom9780 Posts
On June 20 2020 21:29 Biff The Understudy wrote: I guess they figured out that their voters had no standard whatsoever anymore when it came to their conduct, the respect of democratic institutions, the normal functioning of justice and their level of corruption. So I would say they probably simply don't give a %#€ Exactly. Why does it matter when everything you say is ridiculous lies and stupid blunders when all of your supporters will turn the lies and blunders into some sort of truth for them? They don't need to be careful, or manipulate, or be discreet any more. | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On June 20 2020 21:33 Jockmcplop wrote: Exactly. Why does it matter when everything you say is ridiculous lies and stupid blunders when all of your supporters will turn the lies and blunders into some sort of truth for them? They don't need to be careful, or manipulate, or be discreet any more. Well, I mean then you have people like Danglar who - if I understand his POV - will admit that Trump is kinda awful, but still believe that in fact the real responsibility lies on the other side. As if having chosen a proto fascist batman villain as POTUS had been a sad necessity because the liberals are ruining the country (and dare to point out a large portion of his supporters are quite racist). Also, I think that we are in an age of extreme cynicism, where a lot of people believe that politicians are like characters from House of Cards or something. That they believe in nothing, lie all the time, do unspeakable things behind the doors, and so on and so forth. These fantasies go so far that to be openly awful is kind of better, because all the awfulness of Trump is still mild compared to the Frank Underwood idea that those folks have of normal politicians (I think that specific show has done an awful lot of damage at a very bad timing in that regard, btw). I think that explains why people trusted Clinton less than Trump, even though she is probably relatively honest and certainly cares about the common good. There is so much more you can fantasize about someone who respects protocol and protect her privacy than a clown like Trump that just blunders, lies and cheats in plain sight for everyone to see. | ||
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ZerOCoolSC2
9036 Posts
On June 20 2020 15:18 LegalLord wrote: Being a ghoul about this whole situation is the wrong answer. The best way to get housing prices under control is to let Fannie Mae & friends eat the loss when market forces inevitably cause a repeat of 2008. That would cause a widespread financial collapse since housing-derived financial instruments make up a frightening percentage of the entire market, and housing prices failing to maintain their current generally absurd price levels would cause trillions of dollars of losses. But it'd work a damn sight better than people dying, an effect which would be much more transient in the grand scheme of things. Prices are high because the government makes it so. And in your scenario, who gets hurt the worst? | ||
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Biff The Understudy
France7989 Posts
On June 20 2020 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: And in your scenario, who gets hurt the worst? I might be wrong but it looks to me that LegalLord is advocating going full Great Depression next time. That's not a good idea, and it didn't end well. | ||
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LegalLord
United States13779 Posts
On June 20 2020 23:02 ZerOCoolSC2 wrote: And in your scenario, who gets hurt the worst? Pensioners and Wall Street, mostly. Last time the latter got a bailout, though, so maybe this time it’s better to provide it to the former instead. | ||
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Nevuk
United States16280 Posts
Epstein Turkish firm violating Iran sanctions (Trump promised erdogan that he would take care of this, according to Bolton) Guiliani Deutsche bank Abc reporter says Barr was trying to trade high profile doj spots to Berman in exchange for stepping down. | ||
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farvacola
United States18855 Posts
/shrug Edit: oh look, a lawyer that actually knows what a quid pro quo is, how refreshing haha | ||
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GreenHorizons
United States23676 Posts
On June 20 2020 23:18 LegalLord wrote: Pensioners and Wall Street, mostly. Last time the latter got a bailout, though, so maybe this time it’s better to provide it to the former instead. Kinda sad how the massive wealth redistribution and systemic destruction of minority and small businesses is barely even background noise at this point. Neither party has a plan to avoid catastrophe, they both just have plans on how to cynically exploit it for their political and personal advantage. | ||
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