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On March 25 2007 16:42 Metal[x] wrote:
i remember someone mentioning running right when you wake up is the best time to run? someone have any sources where they heard this? or just give me more information in general would be great!
For fat breakdown maybe.. although youd be absolutely destroying your muscles at the same time. Think about it, youve just woke up and been without food for 8+ hours, your body has nowhere to get calories but your muscles and fat. I dunno any guys who want to deplete their muscles like that but, if you want to be skinny and weak as hell, be my guest :o
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Osaka27140 Posts
On March 25 2007 15:58 .kaz wrote:
Micro and Macro
It was a simple troll joke?
The fact you think it is ok is the reason you are banned.
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On March 25 2007 16:01 Yogurt wrote:
140 510 is skinny as hell
Crap....I'm 6'1 with 124lb...........
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mistapooh what metabolism? you have no food in your system.
As dumb as this may sound, but its true - the more you eat the faster your metabolism is. Losing weight = running alot and eating alot. Believe it, its true. If you just ran alot and never ate your body would try and HOLD ON to everything you feed it. Your body has to be in a state that it expects food to be given to it on a constant basis for it to want to get rid of it faster.
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the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
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On March 25 2007 16:29 Newblish wrote:i workout regularly, and i believe my system is the best to follow. its a high intensity low volume workout, which means less is more in terms of hours you spend in the gym per week, but you must put in maximum effort in order to stimulate growth. its a 6 month thing that is intended to build up as much muscle as you possibly can, and then "cut" for 2 months which means get rid of the extra body fat youve added with that muscle by doing high intensity cardio. Its worked for me so far, 2 months in ive increased my weight from 180 to 195 and my strength has skyrocketed, not to mention my size. I cant wait for the cutting phase :\ but ill follow this program to assure i get the maximum results it can bring. (im 21 years old and 6'1 btw) Anyway, here are things you need to know - freeweights are the ONLY way to go, you must be willing to do heavy lifts like squats,deadlifts, incline/decline bench presses etc. Your body grows as an adaptive respose to its environment, so naturally you work it harder and youll grow more. 5-7 reps is ideal for most exercises you do, you want to break down as much muscle fibre as you can with a high weight to keep your energy high/lactic acid to low. Doing endless amounts of reps with low weights is extremely retarded unless youre aiming to build endurance(you stretch your muscle fibres endlessly without breaking them down, instead of well... breaking them down -_-) The goal in the gym should be to build muscle first THEN define(ie a cutting phase with almost purely cardio and few gym workouts), it makes sense if you think about it, its stupid to think you can just go in there to get definition whenever you want. Eating is different of course, and thats something you have to research in order to fully grasp and implement properly, but it shouldnt be a big deal as long as youre committed. bodybuilding.com is good i guess, http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/weight-gain-programs.html is good for beginners to gain knowledge. the program i bought is here, and its incredible and worthwhile if youre willing to spend $67, youll end up saving MORE money using his methods than blindly buying random supplements or what have you than if you do things the RIGHT WAY. http://www.musclegaintruth.com/?hop=jpc1015hope i was of help, if i didnt explain something properly, give me a shout by pm ;\ HF
High intensity/low volume would NOT be good for a beginner at all. How is he going to be able to put maximum effort when he cant even lift properly? At this point he's going to have a lot of wasted sets and the weight is going to be very low anyway, so he's not going to be able to cause enough damage with those low sets to get any decent results. I think doing as a beginner you have to work out more frequently in order to get your muscles and nervous system adapted to lifting the weights, plus it makes strength gains come quickly. The type of training your talking about does work but only if you can lift enough/know enough to go completely balls to the wall and is best for people who have been lifting for a while. With low volume you're not leaving any room for error, and what you get with beginners is them substituting squats with leg extensions or something.
Edit: He also doesnt need 6 months to get bigger, at 140 it would be more like 2+ years without cutting.
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On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
Yeah but it ends up being the calories you dont want to burn. Personally when I try to lose fat I dont do any cardio until im very close to my goal to keep muscle.
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On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!!
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On March 25 2007 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!! Dont do it unless you're like 20% body fat
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On March 25 2007 16:51 ApollyoN wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 16:29 Newblish wrote:i workout regularly, and i believe my system is the best to follow. its a high intensity low volume workout, which means less is more in terms of hours you spend in the gym per week, but you must put in maximum effort in order to stimulate growth. its a 6 month thing that is intended to build up as much muscle as you possibly can, and then "cut" for 2 months which means get rid of the extra body fat youve added with that muscle by doing high intensity cardio. Its worked for me so far, 2 months in ive increased my weight from 180 to 195 and my strength has skyrocketed, not to mention my size. I cant wait for the cutting phase :\ but ill follow this program to assure i get the maximum results it can bring. (im 21 years old and 6'1 btw) Anyway, here are things you need to know - freeweights are the ONLY way to go, you must be willing to do heavy lifts like squats,deadlifts, incline/decline bench presses etc. Your body grows as an adaptive respose to its environment, so naturally you work it harder and youll grow more. 5-7 reps is ideal for most exercises you do, you want to break down as much muscle fibre as you can with a high weight to keep your energy high/lactic acid to low. Doing endless amounts of reps with low weights is extremely retarded unless youre aiming to build endurance(you stretch your muscle fibres endlessly without breaking them down, instead of well... breaking them down -_-) The goal in the gym should be to build muscle first THEN define(ie a cutting phase with almost purely cardio and few gym workouts), it makes sense if you think about it, its stupid to think you can just go in there to get definition whenever you want. Eating is different of course, and thats something you have to research in order to fully grasp and implement properly, but it shouldnt be a big deal as long as youre committed. bodybuilding.com is good i guess, http://www.gain-weight-muscle-fast.com/weight-gain-programs.html is good for beginners to gain knowledge. the program i bought is here, and its incredible and worthwhile if youre willing to spend $67, youll end up saving MORE money using his methods than blindly buying random supplements or what have you than if you do things the RIGHT WAY. http://www.musclegaintruth.com/?hop=jpc1015hope i was of help, if i didnt explain something properly, give me a shout by pm ;\ HF High intensity/low volume would NOT be good for a beginner at all. How is he going to be able to put maximum effort when he cant even lift properly? At this point he's going to have a lot of wasted sets and the weight is going to be very low anyway, so he's not going to be able to cause enough damage with those low sets to get any decent results. I think doing as a beginner you have to work out more frequently in order to get your muscles and nervous system adapted to lifting the weights, plus it makes strength gains come quickly. The type of training your talking about does work but only if you can lift enough/know enough to go completely balls to the wall and is best for people who have been lifting for a while. With low volume you're not leaving any room for error, and what you get with beginners is them substituting squats with leg extensions or something.
The guy who wrote my program was 130 pounds and 5'11 or something, and these principles allowed him as a BEGINNER to increase his weight to like 195 and be both extremely fit and strong.
Cant lift properly?(assuming he cant, we dont even know). When i began as a beginner i was able to do every single exercise that was asked of me. the olympic bars weigh only 45 pounds anyway, anyone is able to lift those properly without the chance of being injured or not being able to perform 5-7 reps(2 sets normally). If someone is not strong, he uses less weight.. its that simple. My first week was lower weights so that i could allow my body to adapt, and so can his i believe.. everyone has to start somewhere, and obviously the first week or two would be trial and error. Btw - after my first week my strength skyrocketed, and ive progressed so quickly after only being on this program for 2 months.
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On March 25 2007 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!!
You'll be burning more calories when you just wake up, but as ApollyoN said it'll be calories you don't want burned (ie. muscle).
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On March 25 2007 16:48 XCetron wrote:Crap....I'm 6'1 with 124lb...........
EAT SOME FOOD CHILD
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On March 25 2007 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!!
If you are like obese, as in so fat that it wouldnt matter what your muscular strength is then yea by all means, run on an empty stomach.. Otherwise its stupid as hell, maybe alot of women do this, but if you want to lose body fat, this is gonna do that and deplete your muscles faster than you can imagine.
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On March 25 2007 17:02 nortorius wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!! You'll be burning more calories when you just wake up, but as ApollyoN said it'll be calories you don't want burned (ie. muscle).
I see, so does it matter if you eat breakfast then run after you wake up? Or is it the same as just running sometime in the middle of the day?
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i'm a 5 '11 15 year old that weighs 115 pounds
yea
my BMI is like 15 or something
im SO underweight
the thing is i eat way more than any of my classmates....
i wonder if i just have a high metabolism
or if im just gay
would working out help me gain weight or will it worsen my situation?!@
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Some people just simply wont gain wait till after like 20 year old or so.
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On March 25 2007 17:05 Metal[x] wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2007 17:02 nortorius wrote:On March 25 2007 16:57 Metal[x] wrote:On March 25 2007 16:49 StimD wrote:
the reason why you should be running right after you wake up or more correct before you eat breakfast, is because that's when you'll burn the most calories.
ok apparently there are some disputes on this issue...so someone CLARIFY!! You'll be burning more calories when you just wake up, but as ApollyoN said it'll be calories you don't want burned (ie. muscle). I see, so does it matter if you eat breakfast then run after you wake up? Or is it the same as just running sometime in the middle of the day?
The reason running on an empty stomach burns more calories is because you're muscle glycogen stores are empty when you wake up, so your body has to look for other sources. So it starts to use itself, in the form of fat(good) and muscle(bad). Basically it thinks you're starving, and since fat stores last longer it will use up primarily muscle. Just a survival mechanism. Before running, if you have to do it in the morning, I would recommend you eat some carbs, like a bannana or other fruit, and some low-fat protein at least 30 minutes before hand. Otherwise do it later in the day.
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On March 25 2007 17:06 Vin[MBL] wrote:
i'm a 5 '11 15 year old that weighs 115 pounds
yea
my BMI is like 15 or something
im SO underweight
the thing is i eat way more than any of my classmates....
i wonder if i just have a high metabolism
or if im just gay
would working out help me gain weight or will it worsen my situation?!@
You really should try to keep a food-log and make keep bumping up your calories weekly until you try to gain weight. People who are trying to gain eat less than they think they do, people trying to lose eat more than they think they do. Make sure you're getting enough protein, like 2 grams for every lb. of bodyweight.
Most people's diets are horrible for getting an athletic physique, as far as I can tell most people dont eat enough meat or often enough. Someone in this thread recommended a 55/30/15 carb/fat/protein diet which would be retarded for gaining muscle but is what I suspect is close to what most people get. 40/30/30 carb/fat/protein is much better, no reason for people to eat so many carbs throughout the day in most cases.
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Heh I'm around 5'10 and 145 lbs but I don't think I'm skinny =/
Ever considered taking martial arts SuN-TzU? If you're not looking to bulk up, it can be more fun and more productive.
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