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Doublemint
Profile Joined July 2011
Austria8642 Posts
January 02 2016 22:09 GMT
#21
interesting addition. very curious how it works out
in the age of "Person, Woman, Man, Camera, TV" leadership.
MooMooMugi
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States10531 Posts
January 02 2016 22:10 GMT
#22
So him playing with Hiko on stream all the time wasnt just a coincidence im excited for great things to happen with his new addition!
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oo_Wonderful_oo
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
The land of freedom23126 Posts
January 02 2016 22:24 GMT
#23
So, uh, James better implement some strategy now.
TL never was really dependant on the AWP and now when you have guy like s1mple, who wants everyone to do his job and won't be silent if they can't do it.

Good luck to both parties, on paper it's probably the best NA team considering that s1mple is Skadoodle's kryptonite, but if swag is unbanned, probs should just stick to #2.

s1mple, ne bud' durakom. :>
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Foxxan
Profile Joined October 2004
Sweden3427 Posts
January 02 2016 22:37 GMT
#24
I hope it works out cuz cuz top tier teams=more fun
Shana
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Indonesia1814 Posts
January 02 2016 22:38 GMT
#25
Eh, I like Allu more but s1mple will do just fine
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
January 02 2016 23:03 GMT
#26
On January 03 2016 07:38 Shana wrote:
Eh, I like Allu more but s1mple will do just fine

I think s1mple is a better player than allu individually. Going to have to see if he's going to be able to keep his toxic attitude in check.

nitr0, s1mple and hiko is a ridiculous amount of raw talent though, might be interesting to see how that plays out. Can't help to feel that adren still is the odd man out. With that much talent behind him, his shortcomings both as an individual player will be even more glaring than seangeares's in C9. Elige is plenty good enough for that team.
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Capped
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
United Kingdom7236 Posts
January 02 2016 23:11 GMT
#27
On January 03 2016 04:08 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Wasn't there a pretty strong point about Team Liquid's philosophy being that attitude is more important even than raw results? Guess that was just meant for the StarCraft division lol. I will have a hard time to cheer for TL with s1mple on it. He hacked (a longer time ago tho), he's banned from ESL for said hacking and then trying to get back into it, he scammed fans/users for skins multiple times (not a very long time ago last), he's thrown (albeit nobody could prove he benefited), he's known as pretty much the most toxic pro-level player out there, he's said all German people are nazis and made countless other racist/xenophobic and other remarks on his streams.

I know he's promised to be better and more mature from now on. But then again he's said this before. And it never happened. I'm disappointed in TL of all teams choosing to pick him up and - while I'll still support the other four on the team - I can't help but feel like I might experience a little Schadenfreude when he turns sour and gets kicked again.

Sorry for the negativity in this announcement thread but it's my honest thoughts!


On January 03 2016 04:16 amazingxkcd wrote:
that comment about attitude was made before tlpro's merger with Curse, when we had sc2 and dota (for a brief stint of dota team #1) and I'm quite sure that tl pro is now focused on results. I stand to be corrected on this, but Hiko wouldn't join an org like TL if they weren't invested into getting results as that was a major reason for him leaving cloud9. In league, TL pro announced a 10 man roster for LCS and a new coach to win LCS sprints and now with s1mple's pickup, this solidifies the notion that results do matter for the cs:go division



This entirely. Its disappointing to see TL basically sell-out their old values and become a hivemind corporation. Makes sense from a business standpoint but i just cant get behind a team with Hiko + S1mple on it, they are amazing talents but toxic as all fuck in their own way. At least when TL was the home of the veteran underdog + his aspiring young guns it still maintained some of TLs grassroots style, even if i hate AdreN as a player

I dont see the team lasting tbh, it'll be top #1 NA for a while based on pure skill before it implodes under the egos and rage, if it doesnt implode they simply dont have the leadership to go toe-to-toe with EU in a meaningful way.
Useless wet fish.
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
January 02 2016 23:52 GMT
#28
shortest plank barrel etc
We have fed the heart on fantasies, the heart's grown brutal from the fare, more substance in our enmities than in our love
Roggay
Profile Joined April 2010
Switzerland6320 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-01-03 00:08:39
January 02 2016 23:55 GMT
#29
On January 03 2016 08:11 Capped wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 04:08 NihiLStarcraft wrote:
Wasn't there a pretty strong point about Team Liquid's philosophy being that attitude is more important even than raw results? Guess that was just meant for the StarCraft division lol. I will have a hard time to cheer for TL with s1mple on it. He hacked (a longer time ago tho), he's banned from ESL for said hacking and then trying to get back into it, he scammed fans/users for skins multiple times (not a very long time ago last), he's thrown (albeit nobody could prove he benefited), he's known as pretty much the most toxic pro-level player out there, he's said all German people are nazis and made countless other racist/xenophobic and other remarks on his streams.

I know he's promised to be better and more mature from now on. But then again he's said this before. And it never happened. I'm disappointed in TL of all teams choosing to pick him up and - while I'll still support the other four on the team - I can't help but feel like I might experience a little Schadenfreude when he turns sour and gets kicked again.

Sorry for the negativity in this announcement thread but it's my honest thoughts!


Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 04:16 amazingxkcd wrote:
that comment about attitude was made before tlpro's merger with Curse, when we had sc2 and dota (for a brief stint of dota team #1) and I'm quite sure that tl pro is now focused on results. I stand to be corrected on this, but Hiko wouldn't join an org like TL if they weren't invested into getting results as that was a major reason for him leaving cloud9. In league, TL pro announced a 10 man roster for LCS and a new coach to win LCS sprints and now with s1mple's pickup, this solidifies the notion that results do matter for the cs:go division



This entirely. Its disappointing to see TL basically sell-out their old values and become a hivemind corporation. Makes sense from a business standpoint but i just cant get behind a team with Hiko + S1mple on it, they are amazing talents but toxic as all fuck in their own way. At least when TL was the home of the veteran underdog + his aspiring young guns it still maintained some of TLs grassroots style, even if i hate AdreN as a player

I dont see the team lasting tbh, it'll be top #1 NA for a while based on pure skill before it implodes under the egos and rage, if it doesnt implode they simply dont have the leadership to go toe-to-toe with EU in a meaningful way.

Building a team on player character and attitude alone makes no sense whatsoever and I am glad they are going away from it.
That being said, the opposite is true (you can't disregard attitude completely either), and I hope things will work with Simple. On talent alone he is the best pickup out there for almost any team by far, but there is always the question of attitude with him. And it's not the first time I hear he wants to change, but in the end never does it.

NA fpl is going to be even more entertaining to watch.
Ragnarork
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
France9034 Posts
January 03 2016 00:01 GMT
#30
I'm siding with NihiL on this one a bit. I always valued Liquid as a team that cared about representing some form of sportsmanship and etiquette. S1mple isn't exactly fitting into this. Then, I really wish S1mple could get somehow better as a person by being in Liquid. This would be so amazing to fix that and go alongside his talent.

Then, I don't dream either.

But this will definitely be interesting!
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neptunusfisk
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
2286 Posts
January 03 2016 00:51 GMT
#31
he's come a long way in terms of manners!

in todays stream, he didn't call them noobs explicitly, just implicitly

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with the comment: "it's not toxic, it's true"
maru G5L pls
Muffloe
Profile Joined December 2012
Sweden6061 Posts
January 03 2016 02:11 GMT
#32
S1mple is really good, I hope and think this can work out well. Welcome!
hymn
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Bulgaria832 Posts
January 03 2016 09:34 GMT
#33
On January 03 2016 08:11 Capped wrote:
Its disappointing to see TL basically sell-out their old values and become a hivemind corporation. Makes sense from a business standpoint but i just cant get behind a team with Hiko + S1mple on it


What do you expect? TL.net to pour salaries month after month just to be mocked at any lan event?
People, realize that any csgo team is there to market a brand, to try to make children buy jerseys, gear and lan tickets. It's not for some weird honor and team values, it's just a bunch of young people who are put there to milk the most money in a short amount of time.
Remove the monetary incentive and every team will surely collapse.
I was a semi pro in cs back in 2001 for a while. I fucking hated it when management told our team that we have to tell some kids younger than us stuff like "Yeah, this mouse and keyboard make me a better player, go buy it from the store near the pc club where we play!". I actually never did that and I quit the team back then because my dad was always supportive and I never had issue to pay for gaming, I never thought I'd play for money, always for fun.
But this is the truth - pro players play to make kids buy stuff and spend as much mom and dad money as possible.
azk he is the north american player but the titan he is the french stars
iXphobos
Profile Joined July 2010
Germany1464 Posts
January 03 2016 12:11 GMT
#34
Ouch.
Don't like it.
I'm totally with Capped on this one. I can't see this team last longer than a few months.
Alur
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Denmark3900 Posts
January 03 2016 12:11 GMT
#35
Surely there are skilled players out there that you can pick up that aren't toxic as fuck. Besides, for branding purposes it probably helps if the player is generally liked, so it's not necessarily the best choice even from a "business" standpoint.
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Nebula
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
England780 Posts
January 03 2016 13:37 GMT
#36
Why is this in general? :o
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ShiaoPi
Profile Blog Joined October 2011
TAIWAN NUMBAH WAN5956 Posts
January 03 2016 14:09 GMT
#37
hmmm curious if this move will really work out :/
not too big a fan of simple here
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TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
January 03 2016 14:36 GMT
#38
On January 03 2016 03:36 amazingxkcd wrote:
now, what will our resident super fans pbtl think about this?

Nothing. Adren is still in the team. And Hiko. And Elige. So many weakest links But no Flowsick. How do they expect to win a major like this? I expect a kick everybody, including Bumblebee, call the moment they lose a game
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amazingxkcd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
GRAND OLD AMERICA16375 Posts
January 03 2016 14:46 GMT
#39
On January 03 2016 23:36 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 03 2016 03:36 amazingxkcd wrote:
now, what will our resident super fans pbtl think about this?

Nothing. Adren is still in the team. And Hiko. And Elige. So many weakest links But no Flowsick. How do they expect to win a major like this? I expect a kick everybody, including Bumblebee, call the moment they lose a game


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Kompicek
Profile Joined May 2008
Czech Republic245 Posts
January 03 2016 16:07 GMT
#40
I dont like this move, especially considering liquids strategy and values. It unfortunatelly shows how desperate they are in the cs:go scene and are willing to risk that much.
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