I happen to have these very often lately, does anyone have the same problem?, it's bugging the shit out of my sleep ever since after new years eve celebration.
This is basically when you wake up after a nightmare, or even just wake up, you are very aware of your awaken, and still can't move or see clearly. And you hear things, weird things as if your auditive senses have incresed by a mile, you hear things (and sometimes see things) that suposedly aren't there, and it's fucking scary the first few times.
Sometimes you even see ghosts, that look at you, and you can't move at all, and the harder you try the less you can move, sometimes you also can't breath ok. It's very frustating because you know you are awake already.
How can i prevent this? I heard/read it was cause by stress or tension but i really don't have that right now, i'm really chill these days i'm on vacations...
i know what your talking about, i get it sometimes. Its a result of conflict between the hemispheres afaik because your motor functions shut down while in REM. Your probably not fully awake which is the problem i have. im aware that im in bed "asleep" and try to get up/move a limb and cant.
I don't see strange things but i recall waking up (my senses at least) but I cannot move at all. Beeing unable to move gets you to panic, and this panic *really* wakes you up. Happens very rarely, like once a year or so.
I've had this happen, but I didn't see ghost or some shit, though I was really scared, because I was face down in my pillow and I couldn't turn my body to breath, I was like that for what felt like an eternity, but it was maybe a minute or so, I tried to calm down until I could feel my body again.
I've had this a few times in the past but its been a long time
I discovered I would always 'become free' when I'd hear a loud sound that was near other than that you can just try to go back to sleep and not focus on becoming free
Never happened to me, but I heard stories from people. Of course, they tried to make'em campfire ghost-related spooky tales, so they exaggerated a bit. But this is basically true, you figure out you're awake, you can't move, and maybe see some weird things.
I used to get this where I would be awake, try to move or get up, and it would be really, really hard and slow to move, and then a bit later everything would suddenly snap back to where I was, and I hadn't moved at all. The time passed, but my body had switched from actually controlling my muscles to kind of 'dreaming' it had, but I was conscious the whole time. It is one of the most aggravating things in the world, and it caused me to literally take hours to get out of bed sometimes, as it would keep doing it over and over. It's psychological torture, because not only do you think you're making progress each time, but you are using 100% of your willpower to try, just to have it taken away.
You could try closing your eyes tightly. I can't remember if I ever tried this for the paralysis, but that's what I do when I'm dreaming and want to wake up. It almost always wakes me up then, or switches me to another dream. I don't get the sleep paralysis anymore, so I'm wondering if it's related to medications or OTC sleeping drugs. Right now all I'm taking is anti-inflammatory medication (never anything for sleeping), and I don't get it.
I have it from time to time. I have no idea how to stop it. Would be nice if there was a way. Have you moved or something lately? I get it more often when I have moved someplace.
I get it more when i'm really tired, but still know i gotta wake up early so i sleep like 4~3 hours, feels like i'm so tired that i can't wake up correctly and don't have enough strenght to move my own body
On January 08 2007 08:48 pr0n wrote: I used to get this where I would be awake, try to move or get up, and it would be really, really hard and slow to move, and then a bit later everything would suddenly snap back to where I was, and I hadn't moved at all. The time passed, but my body had switched from actually controlling my muscles to kind of 'dreaming' it had, but I was conscious the whole time. It is one of the most aggravating things in the world, and it caused me to literally take hours to get out of bed sometimes, as it would keep doing it over and over. It's psychological torture, because not only do you think you're making progress each time, but you are using 100% of your willpower to try, just to have it taken away.
You could try closing your eyes tightly. I can't remember if I ever tried this for the paralysis, but that's what I do when I'm dreaming and want to wake up. It almost always wakes me up then, or switches me to another dream. I don't get the sleep paralysis anymore, so I'm wondering if it's related to medications or OTC sleeping drugs. Right now all I'm taking is anti-inflammatory medication (never anything for sleeping), and I don't get it.
Perfect description of what i get occasionally still. Perception is you're fully awake but no movement possible, and when you try to move your awareness outside you're field of vision, its like this void.
However, closing my eyes doesn't work for me. I just start a dream that I wake up and start moving, but every time I blink, I reset to the start. Blink a lot, and get this shutter frame view of reality.
I've gotten used to the dreams somewhat, but finally waking up is always an experience that seems slightly odd - I wind up being afraid to blink.
On January 08 2007 08:48 pr0n wrote: I used to get this where I would be awake, try to move or get up, and it would be really, really hard and slow to move, and then a bit later everything would suddenly snap back to where I was, and I hadn't moved at all. The time passed, but my body had switched from actually controlling my muscles to kind of 'dreaming' it had, but I was conscious the whole time. It is one of the most aggravating things in the world, and it caused me to literally take hours to get out of bed sometimes, as it would keep doing it over and over. It's psychological torture, because not only do you think you're making progress each time, but you are using 100% of your willpower to try, just to have it taken away.
You could try closing your eyes tightly. I can't remember if I ever tried this for the paralysis, but that's what I do when I'm dreaming and want to wake up. It almost always wakes me up then, or switches me to another dream. I don't get the sleep paralysis anymore, so I'm wondering if it's related to medications or OTC sleeping drugs. Right now all I'm taking is anti-inflammatory medication (never anything for sleeping), and I don't get it.
Yeah, great description. Happens to me all the time. At one point, it bothered me so much I set my alarm clock to ring every half hour after 4 because that's when it happened to me and the ringing snapped me out of it.
Here's what worked/works for me: Never sleep on anything but your bed. If you sleep on the couch, or in a car, or whatever it seems to happen more often. Just don't sleep in weird positions For me it always happens when I'm laying on my back, or when I'm inside the crack between my bed and the well.
Yea I think it happened to me the first time like a week ago and I thought to myself while it was happening, "finally!". But after like 5 minutes, all I did was like focus on like the fibers of my shoulder muscle and move my right shoulder up a little bit, and then it was all over. Kind of disappointing.
Edit: Just read the wiki, and yea, that totally happened to me
It's good to know I'm at the extreme end of the scale with it lasting for hours at times.
On a related note (from a link in that article), I also have lucid dreams every night, and I'd say at least a third if not half of my dreams are lucid. Sometimes it is just a conscious awareness that I am dreaming, leading me to do whatever I want knowing there are no consequences, and sometimes I have enough control to make people or objects appear or disappear, change my location, fly, etc., as I desire. Maybe that's why I like sleeping much more than most people.
I talk while I sleep -- I can say the most funky shit you've ever heard.. it was disturbing the first few times someone told me what I said.. but now im just laughing about it
oh man ive had this before, it scared the living shit outta me. real weird. the only two things when dreaming that bother me more are dreams in which you die, or dreams where youre trying to hit someone and it seems like your arms are paper. those drive me nuts.
on a related note to dreams, i have a funny story. i live in my basement (its refirbished, has entrance to steps upstairs and a storm door outside). i went to bed and aparently my brother left the storm door open. i had a dream that i was in the woods somewhere doing something and woke up after dreaming that there were bugs or sometihng crawling all over me, on my chest, on my face. i woke up all creeped out because it defintely felt like something was on me. i turned on my side n faced my couch then all the sudden i thought i saw something move. the moonlight kinda lit my room a bit and i saw it again. a motherfucking black cat was crawling along my couch and freaked me the fuck out. the thing turned around and hissed n i took the nearest object i could find (alarm clock) and threw it at it. the thing ran out. needless to say, i didnt sleep much the rest of the night (and for a good few days after -_-)
i sometimes have this. i don't hallucinate or anything. my mind is completely alert but my body is completely useless. i usually just sit and think "how long is this going to last".
On January 08 2007 12:37 IAmOnAiur wrote: tie a string to your eyelid, then when you wake up and your eyes open a rock or something of the such falls on you
Haha.
I've never suffered from sleep paralysis but reading the article on lucid dreaming; like pr0n, I have lucid dreams every night.
When you suffer from sleep paralysis, are you entirely aware that you're suffering from it, or is it something you don't realize until after it has finished?
Edit: I guess Joker and the Thief's reply answered that.
I've had this happen to me when i was like 12 or 13 I was falling asleep then all the sudden this poster on my wall swung down (the thumb tack came out of the top). I was awaken with fear of a ghost and I couldn't move but I knew I had to get up. I stared at the wall for like a minute or 2 until finally I gathered the courage or snapped out of the delusion. I ran into the bathroom to splash water on my face and shit, I still don't know if was a ghost or I dreamt it all or what.
I've also been know to lucid dream on occasion and sometimes I can even wake myself up from a dream. My logic kicks in and shit doesn't make sense so much that my brain just goes wtf thats impossible and I force myself to wake up. Its crazy.
PS - I agree sleep paralysis is probably what 90% of ghost/alien sitings are from.
My old friend (RIP) used to get night terrors where he would be asleep and acting out his dreams with his eyes open sort of glazed over. One night he was like "red team go" into the couch cushion like it was a radio then he jumped up and ran into the kitchen sorta fell onto the sink pushed off and ran over slid under the table and muttered some shit into the chair leg like it was a walkie talkie and stayed there hiding. Then we tried to coax him back to bed because its bad to wake people up when they are having night terrors. we woke him up like 20 minutes later when he was laying down again and he didn't remember any of it.
I had it before, maybe when i was 16-18 years old. the more you struggle to move, the more frustrating it is. Its like, the only thing you can do is blink and move your eyes.
Last night I think I might have experienced this. As I fell asleep I began to have strange a strange sensation as though I was slipping into a malevolent dream, but I was still aware of my body lying on my stomach on the bed. I tried to shake it off (mentally) to stop thinking about bad things and even tried to rationalize, "I shouldn't have eaten so late before bed," and eventually I fell asleep.
I don't know how long I was asleep, or if I was even asleep, but I kept seeing/feeling this dark presence hovering above and behind me alongside my bed. I tried to wake up (but I don't think I was asleep, more like staring into the dark) and I couldn't move. I kept feeling the presence coming closer and then I felt it press onto my back so I couldn't even get up.
Finally I mustered the willpower & courage to raise myself up and frantically started breathing.
The weirdest thing was when I raised myself up I had to contort my right arm around. It had been twisted behind my back like someone was holding me in the chicken wing or something, you know when you restrain someone. Fucking weird.
that seems very disturbing (from naranjo's description, the ghosts, etc.) the closest thing i've ever had to that was when i had just woken up from a dream in which i had been running away from something and i couldn't move my legs for like half an hour.
The thing that I hate the most about this is that it seems like after i fall asleep from this i'll wake up and it'll be sometime like 11am and i'll be, "WTF happened to my 7, 7:30, and 8am alarms?" I swear that shit wears you out.
The worst thing is the evil presence you feel (not all the time but sometimes).
Like 5 days ago i was with my girlfriend in a hotel, and i dreamed that we were on the same bed, she was getting herself over me and telling me she is gonna get sleep paralysis..., like if she was having the nightmare and telling me to help her because she couldn't move. And then in my dream her face would change into a scary old man, telling me that i will suffer paralysis and won't be able to move. After that i woke up having the paralysis, and I was also 100% sure my girlfriend was having one too (she wasn't having one tho) , and i felt this horribly dark presence all over the room even after after i woke up (I wasn't certain if i was really awake, i was just waiting for the usual "re-awakeness"). She was trying to calm me down but i just wanted to get the fuck out, and after waking up i kinda kept having my auditive and visual senses very very sharpened and hearing or seeing stuff (mostly hearing).
Anyway just felt an evil presence and could swear someone died there or whatever. Pretty weird.
Yeah this has happened to me a few times, and for some reason it really scares me I dont have the auditory problems you mentioned though. Basically I am awake but very sleepy, and try as I might I cant move an inch. This one time I was lying on my stomach and scared shitless. It doesnt last long though. My estimate is 1-2 minutes, but it feels like a lifetime.
Btw in those 2 pictures where that thing is sitting on the chest, that comes from the fact that you can't control your breathing when you experience sleep paralysis so if you try to it feels like a pressure on your chest.
If I were you I would just wait it out every time it happens. The duration of it is normally only 1-2 mins and since you can move your eyes still its not that boring to be sitting there motionless for that period. If you start to see freaky shit and hear strange stuff just pay attention to it and keep in mind that its pretty cool your brain is able to generate those images/sounds even though its not real.
The painter of those pictures suffered from sleep paralysis often, so he decided to paint a picture based off his own experiences of how it felt. They get more creepy the more I see them.
On January 08 2007 08:22 ilovezil wrote: i think it's called Ba Wi in korean (바위)...
basically, don't fight it. Just go back to sleep, it'll be fine~_~
actually, i think it's called 가위 (Ga Wi). i think the saying is "가위 눌렸어" (pressed by ga wi). the common meaning of the word is "scissors," but i think it's also the name some evil spirit.
Hypnogogia includes sleep paralysis too. This is the period when you're falling asleep and you're in the border between awake and dreaming. The falling and movement sensations are very similar to what ppl describe in alien abductions. You have to get through this stage if you want to lucid dream using WILD or similar techniques.
Sleep paralysis is scary as fuck. Feels like a demon is sitting on your chest, your breathing is constricted. You hear nondistinct voices, like someones or somethings in your house, whispering in the dark. You try to move but you cant, and you want to panic but the feeling soon passes.
Scares the shit out of me, yet Im kinda excited by it. I experienced it three nights in a row the week my senior paper (the one I slacked off on A LOT) was due.
I've experienced this three times in my life. It has always happenened when I've been either sleep deprived or physically exhausted.
By far the most surreal occurence was when I was in the army. I was taking a nap in a room full of people in the middle of the day. I felt a 'snap' in the back of my neck and I was suddenly 100% awake, I remember I could see the other guys going about their business, packing stuff and discussing etc but I couldn't hear anything because there was a loud, thundering static in my ears. I tried to scream and kick because I felt this drowning sensation, couldn't breathe or move, made me panic. I was unsure if my screams actually came out because I couldnt hear shit and It felt like air was not passing from my lungs.
No one seemed to notice anything and I fell back asleep. Later when I woke up I asked the other guys if I had twitched or made any noises or something and all they said was that I snored loudly
Its fun if you are aware of whats happening and you can induce it.
Next time u go to sleep, do you see those flashy things when u close your eyes that u see sometimes? well focus on that form, keep focusing but not too hard, just enough to not let your mind wander in other things because u would fall asleep.
After several minutes, you will start feeling a numbing sensation that grows from the legs to the top, then after your body is totally asleep, u will start hearing veeeery weird stuff, just dont get scared.
Thats the most ive reached, i get too exited about it and i wake up, but if you manage to stay in that stage for more time u will start dreaming while being totally lucid... that way you are able to control your dreams... wich sounds fucking fun.
I've had this happen to me a few times, the last one was faily recent. i had that feeling of slipping into a dream, and then i couldnt move. I layed there for a moment and i heard my girlfriends voice and saw her come through the door, just her outline though, like when you see someone enter a dark room. all i remember was i tried to say, "wake me up." and then everything went black and i snapped out of it a little while after that.
i had hallucinated my girlfriend coming into my room and saying my name. it was fucked up.
This happens to me all the time.. didnt think it was anything special. However I dont get hallucinations like you. All I get is that I cant fucking move. Basically I know I'm awake and yet I cant do shit about it. I cant talk either, and yeah I dunno if i'm the only one but I like the "feeling" that occurs, you feel completly relaxed.
It did scare me when I was younger. I would wake up after having a bad dream, unable to scream for my parents. It always resulted in that I eventually let out a big scream as the paralysis let go.
I don't get lucid dreams often though.. only had it like one or two times in my entire life and that was fun as hell.
Imo you shouldn't be scared, I mean what is there to be scared about? Eventually it will let go and you'll be able to get up. The sounds and shit you are hearing aren't for real anyways.
Well i have a very nice and deep sleep when i put Good Night and Good Luck in the dvd-player and set the timer to shutdown on 45 minutes..actually i do it every day now...maybe you'll sleep better aswell.
Beyonder> WTF Beyonder> I WAS JUST Beyonder> IN MY BED Beyonder> I WAS DAZING, GETTING READY TO SLEEP Beyonder> THEN MY CHEST ACHES Beyonder> I CANT BREATHE Beyonder> I HAVE PAINS Beyonder> CANT MOVE Beyonder> WANT TO CALL MY DAD Beyonder> SHOUT Beyonder> BUT DOESNT WORK Beyonder> THEN I CATCH MY BREATHE AGAIN Beyonder> AND MY CHES STILL IS A BIT SORE Beyonder> IM NOT SURE Beyonder> IF I DREAMT IT Beyonder> OR IF I WAS AWAKE Beyonder> THAT WAS FUCKING SCARY Beyonder> @!E:ERK@!PK@R!?????? JediMidgetKilla> sleep paralysis JediMidgetKilla> or is this mockery JediMidgetKilla> cant tell -_- Beyonder> i am not Beyonder> joking JediMidgetKilla> not too uncommon JediMidgetKilla> I think there is a thred about it even in the general forum
WTF???? I just think I had this for the first time. FUCKING SCARY
WOW im suprised how many people here have this, ive never heard from this before, and trust me i have lots of friends/relatives/people i know and nobody has ever told me about these, or then they just dont care about telling it...
When i was like 6-10 years old i would have bad nightmares (like monster ones :D), but i developed a skill ---> When i was in a paniced/shocking/scary situation i would run/go and hide somewhere, like a bush or under some object and crouch and close my eyes and think "now im gonna wake up" and thats when i did wake up, but it had to be a safe/hidden place so the badguys/monsters whatever couldnt catch me / see mee, but this helped me A LOT through my nightmares getting always out of them, the bad thing is if I went back to sleep immediately after waking up i would go back to the same nightmare and i would always have to find a new place to hide to get out of my dream... so i always woke up like 3-5 at the night and was too afraid to go back to sleep ((
Lucid dreams are SOOOOOO FRIGGING COOL which is the reason i loooove to sleep nowadays so much i always hope to get a lucid dream when going to bed, ( goddam it feels good to fly and have sex with any girl i want and so on and so on... ) they just dont come so often
Sorry for offtopic : Hope i never get sleep paralysis
Bah I hate you all and your controlled lucid dreams. The only thing I get is this odd sensation where I KNOW I'm dreaming, but nothing but bad shit happens. I'll be getting chased by the terminator in my house, and I KNOW it's a dream, but I just can't fuckin' wake up. T_T
I suggest on that page the WILD technique cause you can do it in an afternoon nap and its not too difficult to pull off either. I've never had a lucid dream myself but have come close to it I think.
On January 09 2007 11:36 coolio wrote: WOW im suprised how many people here have this, ive never heard from this before, and trust me i have lots of friends/relatives/people i know and nobody has ever told me about these, or then they just dont care about telling it...
When i was like 6-10 years old i would have bad nightmares (like monster ones :D), but i developed a skill ---> When i was in a paniced/shocking/scary situation i would run/go and hide somewhere, like a bush or under some object and crouch and close my eyes and think "now im gonna wake up" and thats when i did wake up, but it had to be a safe/hidden place so the badguys/monsters whatever couldnt catch me / see mee, but this helped me A LOT through my nightmares getting always out of them, the bad thing is if I went back to sleep immediately after waking up i would go back to the same nightmare and i would always have to find a new place to hide to get out of my dream... so i always woke up like 3-5 at the night and was too afraid to go back to sleep ((
Lucid dreams are SOOOOOO FRIGGING COOL which is the reason i loooove to sleep nowadays so much i always hope to get a lucid dream when going to bed, ( goddam it feels good to fly and have sex with any girl i want and so on and so on... ) they just dont come so often
Sorry for offtopic : Hope i never get sleep paralysis
i LOVE to have nightmares because its like an adventure or a horror movie. my favorite ones are when i imagine zombies running rampant throughout the world and they are attacking my house. The cool thing is when i get caught or bitten i dont wake up i get to go through my nightmare.
I had a hypnic jerk last week in class while watching a documentary. My eyes were closed and my head was on my arm, I was tired and decided that listening would be sufficient. My entire body suddenly shuddered and it caused my head to hit the table, waking me up. People around me were asking me what the hell happened but I didn't know.
On January 09 2007 13:23 Lord.of.Nukes wrote: All these articles are incredibly interesting.
I had a hypnic jerk last week in class while watching a documentary. My eyes were closed and my head was on my arm, I was tired and decided that listening would be sufficient. My entire body suddenly shuddered and it caused my head to hit the table, waking me up. People around me were asking me what the hell happened but I didn't know.
yea, those are always bad/embarrassing. i had worse. i smoked with friends at this girls apt that i just started seeing. they left and we ended up goin to bed (this was maybe my 1st or 2nd time sleepign with her) i was all twitchy from smoking, so that was bad enough cuz i tried hooking up wiht her n gave up. when we finally started nodding off, i practically kicked her off the bed doing this -_-
I had it quite often when I was young. Incredibly scary and I loved the thrill when I had it older. I don't get much nightmare anymore. I like those short dreams that occur when you fall asleep and it's vivid like hell, you often feel like you are "falling" asleep (I think it's called Hypnogogia).
On January 09 2007 13:40 oddeye wrote: I had it quite often when I was young. Incredibly scary and I loved the thrill when I had it older. I don't get much nightmare anymore. I like those short dreams that occur when you fall asleep and it's vivid like hell, you often feel like you are "falling" asleep (I think it's called Hypnogogia).
HEll yeah im not sure if its the same but when i go to sleep and the sometimes just before i fall asleep i get this dream that im falling asleep but im not beacuse its a dream (lol) anyways it feels good and then i always know that im gonna fall asleep... the funny thing is while at this "falling asleep" dream phase i cant wake up i mean i can move and everything but it lasts for like 2-5 seconds then i fall asleep no matter what, ( this doesnt make any sense but... ) :D but at that point i dont even want to wake up so it doesnt matter...
On January 09 2007 11:36 coolio wrote: WOW im suprised how many people here have this, ive never heard from this before, and trust me i have lots of friends/relatives/people i know and nobody has ever told me about these, or then they just dont care about telling it...
When i was like 6-10 years old i would have bad nightmares (like monster ones :D), but i developed a skill ---> When i was in a paniced/shocking/scary situation i would run/go and hide somewhere, like a bush or under some object and crouch and close my eyes and think "now im gonna wake up" and thats when i did wake up, but it had to be a safe/hidden place so the badguys/monsters whatever couldnt catch me / see mee, but this helped me A LOT through my nightmares getting always out of them, the bad thing is if I went back to sleep immediately after waking up i would go back to the same nightmare and i would always have to find a new place to hide to get out of my dream... so i always woke up like 3-5 at the night and was too afraid to go back to sleep ((
Lucid dreams are SOOOOOO FRIGGING COOL which is the reason i loooove to sleep nowadays so much i always hope to get a lucid dream when going to bed, ( goddam it feels good to fly and have sex with any girl i want and so on and so on... ) they just dont come so often
Sorry for offtopic : Hope i never get sleep paralysis
wow man thanks for posting this we're really similar somehow. When I was a kid I had nightmares all the time and I remember I always thought I was awake and I was hallucinating and hearing stuff. I think it's just because i'm just so self concious, I can lucid dream very easily. Younger I was like in games and I had to face bosses, I was 100% sure I was awake and I was doing all that stuff but I could never make a sound because I was too scared.
Sometimes I would see ghosts, I would try to run away from them and go to a safe place (always in my moms room) could never make a sound until I reached my mom. The thing I never understood though, is that they could catch me. They would catch me from the back if i wasnt fast enough and they would bring me back in my room and then I would black out
I talked about this a couple days ago to my father and he said he was able to control his dreams very easily too, and that it is because he is dual conscious (I don't know if its the right term), and that it doesn't surprise him i'm like this as well
my mother says you have astral journeys (viaje astral), because your astral body hasnt returned yet to your body, you cant move a shit. It has happened to me, and the only thing you're able to do is try to sleep again, because no matter how hard you try, you wont be able to move.
Oh, I had an astral journey a couple weeks ago. Its basically being flying in a lucid dream, in some cases it's not though, but that was one. I got creeped out though there was a weird looking kid following me while I was flying and I freaked out and woke myself up
seems pretty weird and in some extreme cases in can last for hours. its never happened to me and i wish it did and i do some of the things in the list that says will cause it.
On January 09 2007 14:18 Night[Mare] wrote: my mother says you have astral journeys (viaje astral), because your astral body hasnt returned yet to your body, you cant move a shit. It has happened to me, and the only thing you're able to do is try to sleep again, because no matter how hard you try, you wont be able to move.
i've never had an experience where i tried getting up but couldn't because of paralysis, much less any of the crazy things you guys are talking about. i even fail to realize the period during my sleep where this happens, i would go as far as to say that i go unconscious before my body paralyzes itself, because i've never not even once thought "i need to get up" "oh shit"
if i always had to go through some of the episodes you people explain, i would probably kill myself
hehe We had a thread about encountering ghosts on bghers.com a few months ago, then I wrote a post of my encounter which turned out to be the nightcrusher or a sleep paralysis; heres the thread if anyone is interested: http://bghers.com/e107/e107_plugins/forum/forum_viewtopic.php?4127.20
Pray. Nothing more to do. Pills and other methods don't work because I know exactly what you are talking about. I had this when I was 12. There was once those image didn't just appear in my unconscious state. When I was conscious, it was the same image. It was scary.
But they can't do anything more than that. Just that moment will feel more scary. So just do something like prayin and focusing on that which is holy. I know that sounds helpless but trust me that is the most helpful thing you can do at that moment.
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