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Zealotdriver
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States1557 Posts
September 27 2010 03:49 GMT
#7241
On September 27 2010 12:12 zizou21 wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On September 27 2010 11:50 Zealotdriver wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 11:35 zizou21 wrote:
What is a ballast?

[image loading]
Is this a good setup? What do you guys think about passive intake?

Do I need to be able to adjust the air hood with respect to the size of the plant or can I Just keep it at the top of the grow space the entire time? Or do I need to keep it up at 40" from the soil the entire time or something like that?


Will an HPS air hood also support CFLs? I'm confused as to how air hoods work; if I can switch out CFLs and HPS lightbulbs in the same hood.


Ballast regulates current through your lamp. All HID and fluorescent bulbs require a ballast. CFL bulbs almost always integrate the ballast into the lamp if it is a ED27 base bulb, such as household incandescent replacements.

https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Electrical_ballast

The setup you drew looks pretty good, of course details will change depending on the cabinet and dimensions of the various components.

It is best to fix the reflector as high as possible and simply sit the pots on little stools or blocks. Remove blocks as the plants grow. Don't forget to top them, this causes

Use rigid ducting if possible to minimize pressure loss and noise. If you must use flexible duct, make sure it is stretched and is as short as possible to make it smooth inside. Do not have loose floppy duct hanging around, its annoying as fuck and highly inefficient.

For bulb compatibility consider these things:
- Ballast ANSI code matches
- Socket: mogul for high power bulbs, or medium base aka ED27 for little guys
- Interior reflector dimensions


Thanks. The bulb info is very useful. I didn't draw that pic btw, I found it on google. The Red lines connecting the exhaust exit to air hood and the fan to the air hood represent ducting right?


btw i think this sentence is cut off lol
Show nested quote +
Don't forget to top them, this causes


Lol sorry I was on the phone and forgot to finish that sentence.

The red lines do represent ducting. If your reflector is poorly sealed, then put the blower output on the intake of the reflector and connect the reflector exhaust to the outside. Hot air will seep out of the reflector, but stinky air won't bypass the filter by getting sucked into the reflector.
Turn off the radio
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 16:20:21
September 27 2010 04:12 GMT
#7242
Cool, that makes sense :}

I just read on GC that: "MH lights are used for the vegetation cycle & HPS are used for the flowering cycle, all though HPS can be used for the entire grow cycle"

You can use HPS for the entire grow? How does that work? Unforunately the post I found it on doesn't go into any more detail.

If this is inaccurate, should I skip the CFLs and just alternate between MH lights and HPS lights seeing that they fit in the same socket (mogul)? Or HPS works for the entire grow, why would anyone cycle MH+HPS bulbs? o_O

edit: im still unclear as what the ballast actually is. is it the powerbrick that runs on the cord between your air cooled reflector and the wall? sorry i'm kinda retarded
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zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 27 2010 18:11 GMT
#7243
what if i got something like this
[image loading]

http://www.htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=48137
Price wise, is this reasonable? (99$)
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
September 27 2010 18:53 GMT
#7244
On September 27 2010 13:12 zizou21 wrote:
I just read on GC that: "MH lights are used for the vegetation cycle & HPS are used for the flowering cycle, all though HPS can be used for the entire grow cycle"

You can use HPS for the entire grow? How does that work? Unforunately the post I found it on doesn't go into any more detail.


HPS for flowering is more important than MH for veg, so when people only buy one they purchase the HPS. The entire grow can be done with HPS but it's not ideal. An MH will outperform CFLs or an HPS during vegetative growth.

If this is inaccurate, should I skip the CFLs and just alternate between MH lights and HPS lights seeing that they fit in the same socket (mogul)? Or HPS works for the entire grow, why would anyone cycle MH+HPS bulbs? o_O


You can do any of the three options but MH+HPS would be the best if cost isn't an issue.

edit: im still unclear as what the ballast actually is. is it the powerbrick that runs on the cord between your air cooled reflector and the wall? sorry i'm kinda retarded


Yes.
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 01:58:02
September 27 2010 20:40 GMT
#7245
Cool, i'll definitely get MH+HPS :}

Looking at this diagram again:
+ Show Spoiler +
[image loading]


Would I need two inline fans? (one for the carbon filter and one for exhausting the heat from reflector)

I don't understand why there is a line connecting the Fan to the hood in the diagram. In the Cool Tube I posted above I only see one open end to allow for ducting It doesn't look like i can circulate the air through the carbon filter > to the reflector > and then to the inline blower that leads outside

edit: Or maybe I need to be looking into something like this
http://htgsupply.com/viewproduct.asp?productID=48150
[image loading]

How good are EasyCool's? Worth the money? I'm assuming installing a 5KV pulse rated socket myself is easy
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TobZero
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Germany493 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-27 21:33:12
September 27 2010 21:29 GMT
#7246
huhuhuh guys i just got home after visiting my friendly neighborhood supplier xD

over the last ~10years i had a lot of unbelivable good shit. until today i was so sure i had it all, done it all.....
today was the day i was proven wrong!!!!
I WAS SO
WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

who the hell on earth has dreams about flying? ... i dont care ....
I AM FLYING

now - i need to play some sc2!!!!!!!!!!!
zerg is under powered? FUCK IT! when i play today its not me controlling my mouse or keyboard.

Today God thought:
Seventh day: God, having completed the heavens and the earth, rests from His work, and blesses and sanctifies the seventh day

Aighth day: God, having done well, starts sc2 after work, and plays zerg until there is no morning for terran or protos.

WE ARE THE SWARM!!!!!

(drugs are bad kids, dont do them or youll end writing stupid shit on TL one day)
-= we are the swarm =-
Sexualinguistic
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States49 Posts
September 27 2010 23:29 GMT
#7247
On September 27 2010 08:16 Lefnui wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 02:08 Sexualinguistic wrote:
what's trolling? o_o I do smoke more than 100 a day. I buy those pure hemp packets by the dozen, roll up doobies from the morning till night, chillin with all my friends who are pot smokers because they get to smoke till they can't where I'm at.


lol

That's exactly what I mean by trolling, saying that you smoke hemp packets.

Show nested quote +
and before you guys say "lol u probably was smokin some BAD shit to be smokin 100 joints a day", imagine that I had pounds on me of purple kush, orange kush, etc, ALWAYS. I'm like SPM,

"if that shit ain't hydro, please get it out ma face"


Whether it's hydro or not doesn't determine the quality of the herb.

Show nested quote +
I went from smoking 100+ to smoking maybe half the joint and putting it away for later use.
Do I have cancer or something?


Definitely.

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On September 27 2010 06:31 Amnesia wrote:
[image loading]

read more: http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/429

LOL


They're going to use that image in an anti-drug commercial.

Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 06:34 zizou21 wrote:Supplies i'm going to buy


You might want to use larger buckets, 3 and 5 gallon are more standard. Get an EC Meter instead of a PPM Meter so you don't have to do any conversion. Make sure you get an air-cooled hood because high temperatures could be a problem in that little space. And its important to purchase good seeds, probably feminized since you'll only have two.






I don't have to prove to your ass that I smoke hemp packs, many of them, or at least use to. They come 50 leaves a pack, and I would buy dozens of them a week. Now, I can't even smoke a joint without feeling that burning pain in my chest.

And yea, saying it's 'hydro' doesn't mean anything, I agree, but.. so what? I was smoking some dank shit, trust me ;P

But, does that really mean I killed my lungs smoking that many joints?..
[Scorpion]
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 27 2010 23:35 GMT
#7248
dude how could you even support paying for 100 joints a day? unless ur smoking schwag. if thats the case, ur def gona die lol :|
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Cambam
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States360 Posts
September 27 2010 23:39 GMT
#7249
"...cannabis and THC produce dose-related impairment in reaction time, information processing, perceptual–motor coordination, motor performance, attention, and tracking behaviour" (Hall & Degenhardt, 2009)

Things necessary to be a good sc player:
  • reaction time
  • information processing
  • perceptual-motor coordination
  • motor performance
  • attention
  • tracking behavior
Don't get me wrong, weed is fun and all. Just saying...
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 27 2010 23:51 GMT
#7250
rofl thats pretty funny
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Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
September 28 2010 00:55 GMT
#7251
On September 28 2010 08:39 Cambam wrote:
"...cannabis and THC produce dose-related impairment in reaction time, information processing, perceptual–motor coordination, motor performance, attention, and tracking behaviour" (Hall & Degenhardt, 2009)

Things necessary to be a good sc player:
  • reaction time
  • information processing
  • perceptual-motor coordination
  • motor performance
  • attention
  • tracking behavior
Don't get me wrong, weed is fun and all. Just saying...


I challenge you to a game of SC2 while I'm high.

On September 28 2010 08:29 Sexualinguistic wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2010 08:16 Lefnui wrote:
On September 27 2010 02:08 Sexualinguistic wrote:
what's trolling? o_o I do smoke more than 100 a day. I buy those pure hemp packets by the dozen, roll up doobies from the morning till night, chillin with all my friends who are pot smokers because they get to smoke till they can't where I'm at.


lol

That's exactly what I mean by trolling, saying that you smoke hemp packets.

and before you guys say "lol u probably was smokin some BAD shit to be smokin 100 joints a day", imagine that I had pounds on me of purple kush, orange kush, etc, ALWAYS. I'm like SPM,

"if that shit ain't hydro, please get it out ma face"


Whether it's hydro or not doesn't determine the quality of the herb.

I went from smoking 100+ to smoking maybe half the joint and putting it away for later use.
Do I have cancer or something?


Definitely.

On September 27 2010 06:31 Amnesia wrote:
[image loading]

read more: http://www.cannabisculture.com/v2/node/429

LOL


They're going to use that image in an anti-drug commercial.

On September 27 2010 06:34 zizou21 wrote:Supplies i'm going to buy


You might want to use larger buckets, 3 and 5 gallon are more standard. Get an EC Meter instead of a PPM Meter so you don't have to do any conversion. Make sure you get an air-cooled hood because high temperatures could be a problem in that little space. And its important to purchase good seeds, probably feminized since you'll only have two.






I don't have to prove to your ass that I smoke hemp packs, many of them, or at least use to. They come 50 leaves a pack, and I would buy dozens of them a week. Now, I can't even smoke a joint without feeling that burning pain in my chest.

And yea, saying it's 'hydro' doesn't mean anything, I agree, but.. so what? I was smoking some dank shit, trust me ;P

But, does that really mean I killed my lungs smoking that many joints?..



You keep going on about smoking hemp packets. If you're serious, then "you're doing it wrong".

If you smoke any substance at 100 joints a day you will be doing massive damage to your lungs.
JadeFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
United States1225 Posts
September 28 2010 04:05 GMT
#7252
just bought an 1/8 of ak47. This shit is goooooooooooood!
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 28 2010 17:55 GMT
#7253
Yo Lefnui + Zealotdriver, should I use the CoolTube or the EasyCool? Is there a glass sheet on the Easycool that seperates the bulb and the plant? (that way the air coming from the carbon filter into the reflector does not go back into the plant, since it is trapped by glass, and so the heat of the bulb cannot escape the inline blower on the exhaust exit)

its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
Lefnui
Profile Joined November 2008
United States753 Posts
September 28 2010 21:06 GMT
#7254
It seems like the general consensus is to go with the Cool Tube in such a situation because it will keep temps down the best, and that's a major concern in a small, enclosed space.

There should not be air coming in that has passed through the carbon filter, although it would be harmless. The carbon filter is attached to the exhaust vent with the exhaust fan pulling air out from the reflector in order to remove heat. Didn't Zealot tell you to just use a passive intake?
ccdnl
Profile Joined April 2010
United States611 Posts
Last Edited: 2010-09-28 21:10:53
September 28 2010 21:10 GMT
#7255
do people actually go on their computer, double click their browser, type in teamliquid.net or hit a bookmark button[ if teamliquid isnt their homepage], click on the general forum then find the "High Thread" or search for it, then reply in it?

really? what a waste of weed.
civil cervixes || Kang Min Fan || I like TLO, TLO= German, I like Germans..?
EleanorRIgby
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada3923 Posts
September 28 2010 21:24 GMT
#7256
yes I'm sure people get high for the sole intention of posting in this thread....
savior did nothing wrong
DoubleZee
Profile Joined July 2010
Canada556 Posts
September 28 2010 21:28 GMT
#7257
Smoke weed everydaaaay. A bowl before work, a bowl on lunch, a bowl before and after dinner, a few more thru out the night...yeeeeaaah!
Just think of how stupid the average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider!
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 28 2010 21:43 GMT
#7258
which part of that are you wasting weed?
its me, tasteless,s roomate LOL!
TheCabDriver
Profile Joined June 2009
Canada159 Posts
September 28 2010 22:01 GMT
#7259
On September 29 2010 06:43 zizou21 wrote:
which part of that are you wasting weed?


i believe he is either a cute amateur mj smoker or a nonsmoker who thinks that whenever a person gets high they must be out doing activities with their friends.
Trippin off the beat kinda, drippin off the meat grinder
zizou21
Profile Joined September 2006
United States3683 Posts
September 28 2010 22:08 GMT
#7260
On September 29 2010 06:06 Lefnui wrote:
It seems like the general consensus is to go with the Cool Tube in such a situation because it will keep temps down the best, and that's a major concern in a small, enclosed space.

There should not be air coming in that has passed through the carbon filter, although it would be harmless. The carbon filter is attached to the exhaust vent with the exhaust fan pulling air out from the reflector in order to remove heat. Didn't Zealot tell you to just use a passive intake?


So, what's on the other end of the Cool tube?

Right now, your explanation looks like this to me:
[image loading]
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