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this guys answer makes the most sense to me
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HINT: The characters in the first plane do not cast any shadow they are phantasms.
More: two planes can be distinguished in the picture: the first one containing the troikas and the second one containing the real world. The shadows are carefully constructed for the real world and completely inexistent for the imaginary one.
All the characters in the imaginary plane look towards the painter. The ones behind completely ignore him.
If the three troikas were not present the painter would have had to leave a big white empty space; But he can not leave a big empty space as he is agoraphobic. He created the three troikas, to fill in this space.
No character in the real world looks at the troikas which are supposed to be quite noisy.
Dan IONESCU
Paris (FRANCE)
dan.ionescu@laposte.net
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well this sounds fine conclusion Dan
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On December 03 2006 15:55 aLt)nirvana wrote:
this guys answer makes the most sense to me
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HINT: The characters in the first plane do not cast any shadow they are phantasms.
More: two planes can be distinguished in the picture: the first one containing the troikas and the second one containing the real world. The shadows are carefully constructed for the real world and completely inexistent for the imaginary one.
All the characters in the imaginary plane look towards the painter. The ones behind completely ignore him.
If the three troikas were not present the painter would have had to leave a big white empty space; But he can not leave a big empty space as he is agoraphobic. He created the three troikas, to fill in this space.
No character in the real world looks at the troikas which are supposed to be quite noisy.
Dan IONESCU
Paris (FRANCE)
dan.ionescu@laposte.net
All good conclusions, I think.
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what i notice most about the picture is that the angle of the slope is downwards. if you look to the far right, the snowy hill dips all of a sudden, almost as if the village sits atop a very steep hill. the same angle, albeit a little less steep, is repeated on the left side. even the tracks of sled are going downwards, and for some reason the bottom left corner looks really odd-like the ground is sharply cut off.
the other theory is that the painting has a repetitive theme.
3 horses
3 children per horse
3 colors-1 for each children which are rotated between sleds.
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quoting the same guy i quoted earlier
"They don’t have shadows because it’s water. Look at the pose of the horse. It’s a swimming pose. Look at the placement of the troika behind the horse. It’s lower and at an angle, indicating that it’s sinking behind the horse. "
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GOD this better not be lame once the professor says what it is.
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hmm what if u find the diffrence arent u then insane like him? imean that u saw it too ithink when u more look the more u look in ure self what u are realy afraid of shows u your fears. ithink mabe there is no mining to this picture if there is then ....
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On December 03 2006 14:10 doedrikthe2nd wrote:This is the copy right? Cause the one posted in the thread and the link that says "higher resolution of original picture" is the same picture. The original looks much darker, so maybe he is afraid of the dark. I have no idea. This kinda reminds of this question a friend of my asked me. He said that it had been asked to mentally ill murderers, and they have all answered the same, and most normal people don't get it. The answer was obvious to me but some of my other friends didn't get it at all. Any way, it goes something like this: A man is at his mothers funeral, were he meets this girl he gets intersted in, but he's forgets (or is to scared or whatever) to get her number. Some time later he kills his own dad. Why? + Show Spoiler +Cause he wants to see the girl again Btw, I think that blue spot you're all talking about is just shadows.
wait notice teh bottom left corner? Something doesn't quite seem correct about it. Maybe the "snow" the horses are riding on isn't snow at all. Maybe it's a river? The avalanche theory also seems good in this pic.
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if only 1 person has figured it out in 15 years that probably because he was just calling out random phobia like we are, it's bound to get mentioned eventually. I don't like the riddle; i don't believe that you know for certain that your answer is correct when you actually have the correct answer.
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agoraphobia and fear of drowning aren't rare.
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On December 03 2006 11:19 Sfydjklm wrote:Another Kuplin's work: original:
Notice in his version there is once again someone blue? And drowning?
On December 03 2006 12:10 Dametri wrote:Show nested quote +On December 03 2006 12:06 pyrogenetix wrote:
without reading the text and seeing the pic i thot it was pretty ok.
then i read the text and looked at it and started thinking something was wrong.
i would say its the way all the horses have their hooves outstretched? thats kinda weird isnt it???
or that there are no single ppl
there are no hoove tracks in the snow behind the sleigh and wouldnt the horses be really cold without like... any clothing? like horse clothes? The sleds pulled behind them would eliminate any hoofprints I don't know much about horses, but unless they weren't native to russia, I'd imagine the horses could survive in that temperature. If they were galloping, all the horses would have their hooves out, though the symmetry of the middle set's spread is kind of weird.
There should be tracks from the sleigh. As for the horses apperaing to be flying, that is common in art.
I personally suspect a fear of drowning combined with a possible split personality disorder. Amateur psychology on speculative evidence ftw.
And the one in your post Nirvana is actually very good. Nice find.
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he afraid of paper?
canvas?
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its a fera of loosing control
falling i think
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theory 3:
the picture is geometrically equivalent. a quality that isn't in the original picture, and it certainly takes into the account the picture as a whole. if you draw lines up and down, and horizontally, the picture is like a study in geometry.
i'll just conclude that it's a fear of uneveness, or something like that.
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im pretty sure if we can find the link between the whole of the picture and why the horses have blurried legs(in the water) we would have the answer
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we can have all these theories but how will we know if its correct? are we just supposed to pick an answer we like and go with that?
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a very long tournament of papers scissors rock.
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On December 03 2006 16:38 Hollow wrote:
im pretty sure if we can find the link between the whole of the picture and why the horses have blurried legs(in the water) we would have the answer
Maybe he was trying to do a logo for TeamLiquid, with horses and water.
His phobia was that Manifesto could ban him, so he was very communist while making the picture and thats why everything is well balanced 3 children, 3 windows, 3 horses etc.
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