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Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States7081 Posts
September 19 2006 00:59 GMT
#41
You ask is the car in one or two. You get yellow (which is wrong). You ask is the car in two or three. You get blue (which is right). So now you know it's in 3.
Ethenielle
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
Norway1006 Posts
September 19 2006 00:59 GMT
#42
On September 19 2006 09:52 Chill wrote:
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brick pushing down on boat displaces more water volume than volume of brick; water level falls


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if it displaces more volume in the boat than out of the boat, why would the water level fall? following your logic I thought it'd rise
Theres a fine line between fishing and just standing on the shore like an idiot.
123bangbang
Profile Joined November 2005
United Kingdom83 Posts
September 19 2006 01:03 GMT
#43
On September 19 2006 09:59 Ethenielle wrote:
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On September 19 2006 09:52 Chill wrote:
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brick pushing down on boat displaces more water volume than volume of brick; water level falls


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if it displaces more volume in the boat than out of the boat, why would the water level fall? following your logic I thought it'd rise


with my new found spoiler tagging abilities.... :D
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brick is heavier/more dense than water. so whilst in the boat, it displaces the volume of water equal to that of the weight of the brick. when the brick is thrown in, the volume of the brick is displaced. so water level fall :D
MTF
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:04:23
September 19 2006 01:04 GMT
#44
On September 19 2006 09:59 Ethenielle wrote:
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On September 19 2006 09:52 Chill wrote:
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brick pushing down on boat displaces more water volume than volume of brick; water level falls


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if it displaces more volume in the boat than out of the boat, why would the water level fall? following your logic I thought it'd rise


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Spoiler chain.

Ask yourself this; What happens when you get into a bathtub that is nearly full, but not quite going over the edge?

Or, think of a ball that weighs fifty pounds, but is as golf-ball sized. It's not moving much water in it's space, no matter how much it weighs.It's pushing some water up, but not a whole lot. Now, imagine putting that fifty pound ball on a boat, which has a much wider surface area. More water gets pushed up, because of that weight being spread out across more of the water.
Think. :)
DarK]N[exuS
Profile Joined April 2006
China1441 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:07:55
September 19 2006 01:06 GMT
#45

A man is in a rowing boat floating on a lake, holding a brick in his hands. He throws the brick over the side of the boat. The brick sinks quickly. Does the water level in the lake go up or down? Explain.


Ok this is my attempted answer. Also is this really a riddle? It's more of a physics problem...

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Ok this is pretty simple - The brick displaces more water by displacing weight in the boat than displacing volume in the lake. Therefore the water level actually should drop a little when you throw the brick into the lake. Of course it's a LAKE so I doubt it makes any difference at all. Maybe if you were in a boat in a small tub. Lol.

That's the only one I can do, cause it's pretty simple physics. But the other would probably take me ages to figure out.



ok someone answered it while i was typing my answer... =_=


Where joy exists despair will always beckon.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:08:25
September 19 2006 01:06 GMT
#46
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
badteeth
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands1416 Posts
September 19 2006 01:07 GMT
#47
I put that a little bit weird
2 again
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. You ask the watch if the next time it flashes the colour will be blue. If the watch flashes the blue light you know blue is true. If you get the yellow light, you know yellow is false.
no quote for you! ehh, damn.
sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
September 19 2006 01:07 GMT
#48
day[9] will crack #2 in seconds
sdpgposd
Profile Joined October 2005
United Kingdom1464 Posts
September 19 2006 01:09 GMT
#49
badteeth. even if you know which one is which, you wont be able to find out which of the three is which for certain, it will be a 33% chance for you to get it correct. day is good with this sort of stuff.. hopefully he will come enlighten us all
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 19 2006 01:12 GMT
#50
On September 19 2006 10:07 badteeth wrote:
I put that a little bit weird
2 again
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. You ask the watch if the next time it flashes the colour will be blue. If the watch flashes the blue light you know blue is true. If you get the yellow light, you know yellow is false.


you could just ask it if 2 + 2 = 4 and see which one flashes. But knowing which light is which doesn't solve the riddle.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
September 19 2006 01:13 GMT
#51
yeah u can find out if blue is right or false, but the next question cant decide then if u waste your first question like that... you can also find out if blue is right or wrong is u ask: Are there any horses behind either door 1 or 2... coz it will show yes. and then u know atleast something more but still not good enough
According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
gLyo
Profile Blog Joined May 2004
United States2410 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:19:33
September 19 2006 01:16 GMT
#52
On September 19 2006 09:27 123bangbang wrote:
Haha i got asked number 4, the brick in a boat thing for my university practice interview.

Erm...hmm someone tell me how to use a spoiler tag dammit!


edit - nevermind.. my post was rendered totally useless :[
http://benisonline.com
badteeth
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands1416 Posts
September 19 2006 01:18 GMT
#53
Ooooh, you're right. Seemed a bit too easy to me .
no quote for you! ehh, damn.
StylishVODs
Profile Joined December 2005
Sweden5331 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:32:28
September 19 2006 01:25 GMT
#54
#2 riddle

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Hmm this seems very wierd but i cant see what is wrong.
You ask the watch:
If I ask you if there is a horse behind both door 1 and 2, will you then show blue?
Then it can show blue or yellow.
When you ask later if there is a horse behind both those doors it can show blue, and then blue will be yes wich means the car is in door 3. If the watch shows yellow, then it means that blue is NO and that means yellow must be yes, wich means there are 2 horses in those doors aswell and the car is once again in door 3.
It quite clear, but i can't understand it, coz then it means the car is always in door 3. And if u ask about door 2 and 3 then its always in door 1, so you can choose where its gonna be!!

Never mind, I found out what was wrong. If the watch shows yellow the first time, and yellow means no. Then it will show yellow when i ask the second question and the car can be in nr1 OR nr2 so u dont know for sure.. but im getting somewhere i can feel it^^



According to Reach, he is the fastest learner he has ever seen. He start bw only like 2/3 years ago. Infact, his bw history knowledge is so limited, he didn't even know what the map Guillotine was.
Beamo
Profile Joined March 2003
France1279 Posts
September 19 2006 01:29 GMT
#55
Missing one thing for 6... :

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You make 4 groups of 3 marbles.
you weigh 2 groups.
a) The scale tilts
b) The scale does not tilt

a) take the hevier 3 marbles and weigh them with 3 you haven't weighted.
a1) tilts again -> You know in which pack of 3 the marble is and you know it's hevier.
Take the 3 marbles weigh 2 -> does'n tilt it's the last one
tilts -> take the hevier one
a2) doesn't tilt -> You know in which pack of 3 the marble is and you know it's lighter.
Take the 3 marbles weigh 2 -> does'n tilt it's the last one
tilts -> take the ligher one

b) take 3 of the marbles you havn't weighted and weigh them with 3 or the marbles you have
b1) it tilts -> you know in which pack of 3 the marble is and if it's lighter or hevier
Do like a1 or a2
b2) It doesn't tilt... -> You know in which pac of 3 the marble is but have no clue if it's hevier or lighter... And I'm stuck ;D

Only 82.5% solved :p
[r]h_probe
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States188 Posts
September 19 2006 01:32 GMT
#56
regarding number 5

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there are 10 cheating men in the town.

if there is only 1 cheating man, then he will be kicked out the first night. the reason is that his wife knows that someone in the town is cheating, but she knows that no one else in the town is cheating, so it must be her husband.

if there is two cheating men, then the they will be both kicked out on day 2. the reason is that their wives know that one other husband is cheating, but he was not kicked out on the first night so they deduce that that wife must know the same thing.

and on and on until the 10th day or 10 men

Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
September 19 2006 01:33 GMT
#57
On September 19 2006 10:04 MTF wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 19 2006 09:59 Ethenielle wrote:
On September 19 2006 09:52 Chill wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
brick pushing down on boat displaces more water volume than volume of brick; water level falls


+ Show Spoiler +
if it displaces more volume in the boat than out of the boat, why would the water level fall? following your logic I thought it'd rise


+ Show Spoiler +
Spoiler chain.

Ask yourself this; What happens when you get into a bathtub that is nearly full, but not quite going over the edge?

Or, think of a ball that weighs fifty pounds, but is as golf-ball sized. It's not moving much water in it's space, no matter how much it weighs.It's pushing some water up, but not a whole lot. Now, imagine putting that fifty pound ball on a boat, which has a much wider surface area. More water gets pushed up, because of that weight being spread out across more of the water.


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Yea. It's just a comparison of densities, right? If you have something denser than water in the boat, the water level will fall when you put it in the water. For example, if the boat was half filled with water, when you bailed all the water out, the water level would be the same. If you had something lighter than water, it takes up more volume than equally-weighing-water, so the water level would rise (except stuff lighter than water floats so you'd have to magically suspend it there somehow)


This seems more like a physics problem than a logic puzzle to me, that's why I think it's the weakest of the 8. I'd still like to hear the answer to the 10am cheating husbands one though, because I have no clue what the answer to that is.
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KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:41:17
September 19 2006 01:38 GMT
#58
Here's my try at #2
A bit twisted but I think it's the only way

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Messed up... need to yhink again
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
BlackJack
Profile Blog Joined June 2003
United States10574 Posts
September 19 2006 01:41 GMT
#59
On September 19 2006 10:38 KarlSberg~ wrote:
Here's my try at #2
A bit twisted but I think it's the only way

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does blue light mean "yes" today and is the car beghind door 1 or
does blue light mean "no" today and is the car behind door 2 or 3

All this is just 1 question (with priority given to "and" operator over "or", just classical boolean algebra)
It shows blue if the car is behind 1

If it doesn't, ask the same to know about door2, and you know all you need to know.


i haven't given your answer much thought, but if you are allowed to ask a 2 part question then I don't really care what the answer is :[
KarlSberg~
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
731 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-09-19 01:45:13
September 19 2006 01:42 GMT
#60
Why should I not be allowed 2 parts questions?
There is only 1 answer to the whole question which is yes/no
I see nothing in the ridle that would forbid it

Anyway I got it wrong
There are 01 kind of people who know binary. Those who understand little endian and those who don t.
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