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BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
August 14 2006 16:38 GMT
#121
LIKE ALWAYS:

Watch the movie, then comment.

Let's not get all insane over a fucking press release.
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Profile Blog Joined October 2003
Braavos36402 Posts
August 14 2006 22:57 GMT
#122
chibi if you want to rape dakota fanning just say so, you dont need to use these circuitous arguments to justify it

i think it's cool, you should go for it
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Profile Joined May 2003
United Kingdom10597 Posts
August 15 2006 00:52 GMT
#123
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uNcontroLable
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
United States1180 Posts
August 15 2006 18:05 GMT
#124
On August 15 2006 00:44 Chibi[OWNS] wrote:
i just think you're over-thinking everything (yes americans can do this - but only in a bad way)

probably in many cultures you are well aware of the intricacies of sexual relations and desire by age...well she is nearly 13 i think (hell isn't 13 like the national average age for fucking in some parts of britain :/ ) . and with an above-average mental maturity (when i was like 16/17 i was friends with a 14 year old who was like ...well, more mature than many adults)

oh hello i found some statistics...these are SIX years old and im sure they've changed a lot since
Almost a quarter of girls first have intercourse before the age of sixteen, according to a government survey [...] A research also published by Bristol University Institute of Child Health shows that one in six girls now reaches puberty by the age of eight.

is it so hard to explain sex to someone , and then explain forced sex :s i mean yeash. make a bigger deal about it won't you?

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I was trying to explain that very thing, that no-one would choose to be raped, so why would you want to experience it in a movie, and why would we want to put the experience anywhere further into the minds of our society?


hi sorry i was drunk last night.

Rape fantasies occur in both the male and female sexual fantasy realms, are relatively common across populations, and their contents range from unwilling seduction to violent, forceful sex. One can imagine one is the rapist, or that one is being raped. It is estimated that 24% of men and 36% of women have had a rape fantasy, and 10% of women report this is their favorite type of fantasy

that's 1 in 10.. and that's just fantasies. that's nothing to do with entertainment. people don't like shooting themselves in the arm but you see it in horror movies and gangsta films and westerns all day. not to mention video games, where that's basically what you DO. i once posed the question, since games are increasingly interactive : would you rape someone in a game like GTA, where you can already steal a woman's car and blugeon her to death with a shovel? remember, rape is basically sexual desire + no morals. isn't it?


Yes, many girls experience sexual interaction at a young age, and yes they can understand the concept of forced sex. But why does that make it alright for them to experience that concept beyond the level of mere understanding? Why would we want them to watch it happen, or to watch it happen ourselves? A five year old understands the concept of death, but would we want them to witness a murder? If the director feels it is important to tell the story of a 12 year old who is horrifically abused, so be it, but he can do it without letting millions of people into that bedroom to explicitly watch it take place. Saying that we should be able to watch rape or even simulate it in a video game simply because we can do so with other forms of violent crime is just ridiculous. We already have it bad, so why shouldn't we make it worse? C'mon. As far as rape fantasies...if that many people actually do already think about rape as a positive experience, why perpetuate it by putting a child into the already-existing picture in their head? And, what's more, even if those statistics are correct, I'd like to see a fucking survey of RAPE VICTIMS who have such "rape fantasies." I think the results might be slightly different, unless you count horrific flashbacks and detrimental effects on the psyche or current intimacy as "fantasies."

remember, rape is basically sexual desire + no morals. isn't it?


No, rape is much, much more than that. It is a declaration of domination over someone by forcing them to act in an intimate manner unwillingly. It is the theft of a person's choice, freedom, and often innocence. It is the forced entry into the realm of intimacy in someone's mind and heart, therefore affecting not only their present, but every day of their future, and their lover's future, and their spouse's future, and their children's future. In reality, rape often has very little to do with sex, and more to do with asserting power or control, just like assault. It is the ultimate in human degradation of fellow human. Honestly, I find your lack of astonishment at the display of rape or even any contempt for the act itself appalling.
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Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United Kingdom2770 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-08-15 19:49:47
August 15 2006 19:13 GMT
#125
Meh, I thought the link had a video =/

Uncontrollable just because something is horrific doesn't mean it should be banned. If you making a film then going "too far" doesn't exist : You're showing people would be going "too far", if it wasn't a film where it didn't really happen thus it doesn't actually fucking matter. If you can't watch something horrific without being scarred, then don't watch it.
On August 14 2006 17:22 uNcontroLable wrote:
Just because something actually happens doesn't mean millions of people should experience it in movie theatres all over the world.

If you don't want to see someone getting raped, then shut the fuck up and don't watch a film that is already famous, before it's release, for a rape scene. Also stop piously trying to get everyone else to denounce something that they obviously don't have a problem with.
How extreme can things be?? a guy raping a baby? a guy eating a baby? everything seems to get worse as it gets younger.. a serial killer baby? a massacre of babies and then an baby orgy in the blood of those babies in a bath made of glued-together-babies? i wouldn't mind watching any of that in a film, would be pretty amusing to be honest. ITS A FILM GET OVER IT OMGOMGOMG
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