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On December 06 2017 17:43 iPlaY.NettleS wrote:Going to be interesting to see how many articles there will be about this cost of brexit compared to how many articles there were about the 850 billion pound bill it cost to bail out UK banks after the GFC, a figure that will be dwarfed by the next bank bailout during the next global crisis.It's all a total joke if you ask me.Total extortion, rich get richer poor get poorer, damned if you do damned if you don't. www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/163850bn-official-cost-of-the-bank-bailout-1833830.html?amp
What point is even being made here
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On December 06 2017 20:55 kollin wrote:What point is even being made here
As far as I can see he;s trying to get us to stop complaining about how utterly terrible Brexit is going to be for everyone because.... banks.
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Well, they agreed to start negotiations now. The funnier part is all the crybabies who oppose Tory rebels, saying they should be deselected. They should learn what democracy is. Party isn't everything.
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The pro brexit twitter bot army needs to learn to hide their location.
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The biggest problem I have with this entire Brexit business is that the overwhelming minority of people voted without knowing that the actual terms would be.
It is literrally like signing consent for an operation without knowing the risks benefits of the operation, or even what it is for.
Even more fucking stupid is that giving a Government a final say as to whether the terms should be accepted or not being somehow seen as a "defeat" when it is the closesy thing to a democratic outcome possible (the most being to hold a referendum once the final terms have been agreed as to whether to accept or not).
Is it really democracy if people are making uninformed decisions?
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Awesome Russian troll. I guess every ruble counts, especially when his country has tough sanctions. The only sad thing is the UK did exactly what Russia wanted - weakening the EU by leaving. We need to deal with Russia together, but apparently Donald Trump doesn't think so.
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The way cuts have affected prisons is not symmetrical. Modern prisons are designed so they don't require as much upkeep as older prisons, so the older the prison is, the more it is affected by budget cuts. The cuts haven't been managed in such a way that this issue is mitigated, because the tories are lazy about how they implement domestic economic policy, so this sort of thing is unavoidable, but it won't be widespread.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-42434802
Damian Green, one of Theresa May's closest allies, has been sacked from the cabinet after an inquiry found he had breached the ministerial code.
He was "asked to quit" after he was found to have made "inaccurate and misleading" statements about what he knew about claims pornography was found on a computer in his office in 2008.
In his resignation letter, Mr Green apologised for his actions.
BBC's Laura Kuennsberg said the PM "had little choice but to ask him to go".
In her written response, Mrs May expressed "deep regret" at his departure.
This was predictable. You don't come back from this kind of stuff.
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A referendum is nothing like a General Election. That's why it isn't called a General Election. The results are also non-binding, just politically devastating. If Theresa May wanted she could just turn around tomorrow and say 'Brexit's off, sorry, I voted against it and it's such a massive pain in the arse that I'd rather save the country the headache I'm going through and retire. I'm off for some chips with David Cameron now kthxbai'.
And any time someone tries that kind of idiotic rhetoric they should have '350 million to the NHS' thrown in their face over and over again, since that was part of their supposed 'platform' and it legitimately swayed some people into voting to leave.
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Looks like Theresa May is in trouble after a non-reshuffle and her Brexit stance softening she is only a few letters away from a no confidence vote.
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That's interesting.
I honestly thought May would be gone by now.
Maybe the tories were just waiting for Corbyn's support to die down a little before they made their move.
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I think shes been sly about where she is on Brexit trying to play both sides, but with the botched reshuffle disaster after disaster and now a softening of the brexit stance some of the MPs are thinking it keeps getting worse we have to get rid of her.
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On January 26 2018 02:50 Zaros wrote:
I think shes been sly about where she is on Brexit trying to play both sides, but with the botched reshuffle disaster after disaster and now a softening of the brexit stance some of the MPs are thinking it keeps getting worse we have to get rid of her.
I don't think that she is that stupid. She knows that Brexit has no advantageous outcome so is pretending to up-play it to her own party/country, all the while singing a completely different tune to the EU behind closed doors.
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In that case she is completely stupid for both being duplicitous to the British public and the conservative party AND playing chicken and burning bridges with the EU.
Really though, I suspect this has come about due to the disatisafaction towards David Davies total incompetence as exposed during his appearance in the brexit committee yesterday. A total buffoon.
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The conflict between the anti-EU lunatics in the Conservative party and reality continues to ensue. I suspect they're so stubborn that they'd bring their government down if needs be.
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You need to remember that literally none of these people thought Brexit would actually win the referendum. They never planned on being in this position.
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I think its unfair to say nobody thought it would happen, I don't think May, Hammond and the remainers thought so. I'm highly suspicious of Boris' motives I suspect he didn't think it would happen he just wanted to use it to be the darling of the Tory membership so he could get elected after Cameron stepped down, but I think others did think it would happen.
David Davis is a buffoon, same with Fox they only got in there positions because May wanted to get the brexiteers on side and they are no threat to her. I think if the actual competent Brexit backers were in charge the whole process would be running a lot smoother because they would have a clear goal to aim for rather than stumbling about trying to compromise between remainers, brexiteers, civil servants and the EU all at the same time.
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