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i expressed an opinion without insulting anybody, if anyone is flame-baiting its you guys to a much larger degree. if i were to respond in the same fashion you've been addressing me then this thread would become nothing but a shit festival.
there are people who are just a little "too into it" in almost any activity/hobby. some people don't like to eat normally, they like to go on forums and discuss with others how they make their omelettes "with just a titch of libyan parsely, a pinch of costa rican oregano, a dash of siberian yellow wolf ginger, mongolian falcon eggs, norwegian goats milk (only from goats younger than 3!), argentinian cheese from the de la paso elite ranch (membership required!)" and they just drone on and on to each other about all of their stupid idosyncrasies when eating. me i just eat a fucking omelette, it's food it turns into mush in your stomach and then most of it turns into shit, it's not a masterpiece. if you spend that much time/effort analysing your food (or your music) then yes, it's a bit overdoing it.
if the extent of your communicative abilities is limited to calling me/my ideas stupid then just leave yourself out of the conversation, i have taken the time to put out arguments (and, additionally in a civil manner) and i expect the same in return. if you find yourself sputtering with rage because you disagree so passionately with what i am saying, then perhaps you should think twice about posting, as you are likely to throw a lot of unprovoked insults into the mix that will get us nowhere until you've cooled down.
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i dont get how you see something and they quickly stereotype it into some idea you saw or thought about in your head and convince yourself that thats that. Have you ever listened to radiohead? They're a great band, probably the best band to exist in the 90s, their music deserves all the analysis they get. Why did you see mrmin's comments and automatically assume hes overanalyzing when you dont even know what radiohead is? i feel like ive said all this before, your way of responding to other peoples comments baffles me, thats why you get flamed. you deserve it, realize that
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Austin10833 Posts
On June 13 2006 21:39 a-game wrote:
i expressed an opinion without insulting anybody, if anyone is flame-baiting its you guys to a much larger degree. if i were to respond in the same fashion you've been addressing me then this thread would become nothing but a shit festival.
there are people who are just a little "too into it" in almost any activity/hobby. some people don't like to eat normally, they like to go on forums and discuss with others how they make their omelettes "with just a titch of libyan parsely, a pinch of costa rican oregano, a dash of siberian yellow wolf ginger, mongolian falcon eggs, norwegian goats milk (only from goats younger than 3!), argentinian cheese from the de la paso elite ranch (membership required!)" and they just drone on and on to each other about all of their stupid idosyncrasies when eating. me i just eat a fucking omelette, it's food it turns into mush in your stomach and then most of it turns into shit, it's not a masterpiece. if you spend that much time/effort analysing your food (or your music) then yes, it's a bit overdoing it.
if the extent of your communicative abilities is limited to calling me/my ideas stupid then just leave yourself out of the conversation, i have taken the time to put out arguments (and, additionally in a civil manner) and i expect the same in return. if you find yourself sputtering with rage because you disagree so passionately with what i am saying, then perhaps you should think twice about posting, as you are likely to throw a lot of unprovoked insults into the mix that will get us nowhere until you've cooled down.
If you really believe what you just typed, you must be the most boring person on the face of this earth.
You don't think there's a point to making intricate food? We should all just eat bland mash because hey, it all shits out the same right? Yeah, you're just a good ole boy, eatin regular omlettes like simple folk should, none of that there fancy spicin'.
You claim you never insulted anyone, but when you trivialize things that others care about only to further your own attention hungry internet-persona, don't expect everyone to just sit back and type LOL A-GAME THATS GOOD LOL.
You think Radiohead is a stoner jamband? Your civility, feigned as it may be, is no buffer for ignorance like that. Maybe Radiohead doesn't produce masterpieces, in your estimation. Maybe you're more suited to, say, an Audioslave or something.
I do think they make masterpieces. They're my favorite band in the world and I'll spend all day defending their music.
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are you sure youre not mitsy and only make comments like that just so you can piss people off?
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i think there's a point making good food but there is such thing as going overboard, at the end of the day yes it is just mush, but i'm not advocating that we all eat oatmeal thrice a day. it's not that black and white, but there is a point when someone stops being a fan and starts being a fanatic.
i do not expect everyone to sit back and congratulate me, but you have to admit the first responses to my comments were overly unkind. there is a difference between smoking pot and being a stoner, and there is a difference between jamming and being a jam band. what i meant to convey, is that radiohead is into music because it's fun, they are a group of guys with talent that make music because they enjoy making music, and it's great that they have a lot of fans. but i don't think they take their music nearly as seriously as you guys seem to think. on the days they are working on tunes i bet they are laughing, drinking, smoking buds, and overall really casual. i bet a lot of the nuances that you guys worship in their music were given birth by nothing more than 5 guys jamming and reaching an affable modicum of synergy, but certainly not deliberate. i just dont see any point in dissecting casual music when its intended form of consumption is to just chill and have fun with it, which is exactly what radiohead was doing when they made it.
i don't understand the incessant need to dissect and analyse a thing that was truckin' along just fine without any of that.
i do like audioslave, i like a lot of stuff, pretty much every kind of music there is out there. i am NOT a fanatic for anything though, you could tell me audioslave sucks fat cock and i wouldnt really care, i think their good but i certainly dont think their special or irreplaceable, their just one of many overpaid musicians that have fun and jam and do nothing that a thousand other bands couldnt do for a fraction of the pay.
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I think if you went to any member of Radiohead and told them their music was intended to be consumed as just "casual chill music" they'd punch you in the face.
Stick to topics you have atleast a modicum of knowledge about.
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well, i may not be a radiohead fan anymore, but i still respect the band very much because of their ingenuity, originality, and love for what they do. they are true artists, anyone who thinks otherwise should just keep their mouths shut :/
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well i admit i don't really care what they intended their music to be, same with art gallerys i'm sure the artists have all kinds of ass-tastical explanations for what the "piece" means to them, but to me it's just something to color up a boring wall. i could care less if radiohead thinks they make masterpieces, because you can call anything a masterpiece, a blade of grass is a masterpiece if you grind it down to small enough details. what's the point of doing that though, the grinding of things down to small details? that's not what lifes about, that's a waste of time. people have too much time on their hands if they're bothering with this.
and in case your confused, i like radiohead.
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GOD FUCKING DAMN IT i just typed a paragraph saying you dont know what radiohead is so dont say people are being too analytical and fanatic about their music, then you give me a longer paragraph explaining to everyone what you think radiohead is and how fun and casual they are, WHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG WITH YOU, you have a fucking gift for pissing people off. I AM FUCKING PISSED OFF, and knowing you you'll probably come back with a page explaining to me how i shouldnt make opinions when im pissed off because my emotion will affect my judgement, a-game W:OIEFJPOWQIEFOWIPEJ STOP POSTING STUPID SHIT, FUCK FUCK FUCK, if anyone has that animation of a guy punching somebody and the words stop making stupid posts flashing and could post it id greatly appreciate it
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On June 13 2006 21:49 BroOd wrote:
If you really believe what you just typed, you must be the most boring person on the face of this earth.
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On June 13 2006 18:18 Wysp wrote:
Why is "The National Anthem" such a favorite? I love Radiohead but this one just makes my hears hurt.
hyponotic
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Austin10833 Posts
On June 13 2006 22:48 a-game wrote:
well i admit i don't really care what they intended their music to be, same with art gallerys i'm sure the artists have all kinds of ass-tastical explanations for what the "piece" means to them, but to me it's just something to color up a boring wall. i could care less if radiohead thinks they make masterpieces, because you can call anything a masterpiece, a blade of grass is a masterpiece if you grind it down to small enough details. what's the point of doing that though, the grinding of things down to small details? that's not what lifes about, that's a waste of time. people have too much time on their hands if they're bothering with this.
and in case your confused, i like radiohead.
I wonder what it's like:
To have never read a book that's more than just words.
To have never seen a movie that's more than just entertainment.
To have never hear a song that's more than just music.
In a strange way, I guess I feel sorry for you.
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On June 13 2006 21:02 a-game wrote:
nice retort
about as good as your post deserved
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TBH I think alot of people are way too serious about their favorite band(s). I'm not gonna argue or go into detail, but when a band truly becomes "larger than life" to a person, that's too much fanboyism IMO.
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my blood pressure is getting really high
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On June 13 2006 22:58 inkblot wrote:
TBH I think alot of people are way too serious about their favorite band(s). I'm not gonna argue or go into detail, but when a band truly becomes "larger than life" to a person, that's too much fanboyism IMO.
Exactly why won't you go into detail? Because it's an argument that can be picked apart in mere seconds?
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On June 13 2006 22:55 BroOd wrote:
I wonder what it's like:
To have never read a book that's more than just words.
To have never seen a movie that's more than just entertainment.
To have never hear a song that's more than just music.
i've done all 3... there's a difference between appreciating quality/absorbing lessons and over-analysing/fanaticism - and it is the latter which i am criticizing
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how is appreciating art over-analysing or fanaticism? have you no emotions?
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Austin10833 Posts
On June 13 2006 23:23 a-game wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2006 22:55 BroOd wrote:
I wonder what it's like:
To have never read a book that's more than just words.
To have never seen a movie that's more than just entertainment.
To have never hear a song that's more than just music.
i've done all 3... there's a difference between appreciating quality/absorbing lessons and over-analysing/fanaticism - and it is the latter which i am criticizing
So when you hear a song and it's more than just music, you're appreciating quality.
When I do it, it's over-analytical fanaticism.
Get a fucking grip. You're in over your head. Admit your mistakes and move on.
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Didn't know this forum had so many radiohead fans. My top 10 would be
1. A Reminder - Paranoid Android CD2
2. Dollars and Cents - Amnesiac
3. Sail me to the moon - Hail to the theif
4. Life in a Glass House - Amnesiac
5. Lozenge of Love - My Iron Lung
6. Cuttooth - Knives Out single
7. Coke Babies - Anyone can play guitar single
8. Knives Out - Amnesiac
9. High and Dry - The Bends
10. (Nice Dream) - The Bends
Strangely enough, as a group, I like radiohead's B-sides and songs included on singles better than the stuff that actually made the albums.
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