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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:04 GMT
#61
what debate, i brought up the difference between art and death, theres no debate, there can be no debate, it is the most obvious of all differences, yet agame still manages to see similarities
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
June 13 2006 16:07 GMT
#62
On June 14 2006 00:58 BroOd wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2006 00:55 mrmin123 wrote:
//trimmed//
You've obviously been speaking to a different breed of Radiohead fans from the one's I've been talking with then. Everyone else I know thinks Pyramid Song is this slow dreary piano song that I only like because it features a piano (same reason I like Fog (Again)).


Maybe my versions of Fog are different than yours. The first one I have is off of the Knives Out B-Sides, just called Fog. The second is during an early live recording, and it's called Alligators in New York Sewers.

Yes, Fog and Fog (Again) (also known as Alligators in New York Sewers) are two different songs. The song Alligators in New York Sewers was debuted on 2000 at the Israel show as the solo piano version. Then the electronic/guitar version you're talking about, renamed Fog, was on the Knives Out Single and Amnesiacs B-Sides. The live recorded version was then renamed as Fog (Again) and released on the Go To Sleep Single and the Com Lag 2 + 2 = 5 EP.

I prefer the Fog (Again) / live version of the song much more, because it features the piano
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
June 13 2006 16:09 GMT
#63
Oh I'm a fucking cock, I have Com Lag.

I'm listening to Fog (Again) (live) right now!
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:09 GMT
#64
mrmin can you recommend me some new music im bored with all mine
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
June 13 2006 16:11 GMT
#65
On June 14 2006 01:09 zulu_nation8 wrote:
mrmin can you recommend me some new music im bored with all mine

Well, what are you in the mood for? What type of music?
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
June 13 2006 16:13 GMT
#66
mrmin tell me more radiohead songs i should find.

i have about 300, but maybe you have some i dont?
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mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-06-13 16:16:14
June 13 2006 16:15 GMT
#67
On June 14 2006 01:13 BroOd wrote:
mrmin tell me more radiohead songs i should find.

i have about 300, but maybe you have some i dont?

Have you checked out the Towering Above The Rest collection? If you have that, there isn't much else I could recommend to you
Or you could check out the bootlegs of the 2006 Tour and listen to the new songs...
Translator태양은 묘지위에 붉게 떠오르고 / 한낮에 찌는 더위는 나의 시련 일찌라!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:17 GMT
#68
ive realized after all my experience with indie rock that i can never find anything similar to arcade fire or broken social scene because theyre almost like one hit wonders and their albums were inspired by unique circumstances, i dont like wolf parade or sunset rubdown i think theyre passionate with no real emotion and it sounds really bombastic. all i want now is just an album that has a lot more in itself and is worth repeated listens, i dont care what type of music, i just want something good, but preferably something along the lines of good experimental indie rock with smart ambiguous lyrics and a lot of guitars
a-game
Profile Blog Joined December 2004
Canada5214 Posts
June 13 2006 16:18 GMT
#69
mrmin:
i'm glad you ignored the rest of whats been going on lol it hasn't been pretty.. and i only really wanted to talk to you in the first place.

i'm going to address your two points in reverse order, firstly i'd like to correct myself, because while i feel classical music is more worthy of indepth anaylsis i still think it's a trivial pursuit to do so, and so i'd like to rescind my original comment to that regard.

i hear ya about being passionate for a thing, and it's a touchy thing for me to criticize. who am i to tell you what you should or should not be passionate about. i guess my main beef with it is, you see threads with passionate metal fans and they are bickering amongst themselves, and arguing over what appears to be quite trivial matters, ie which metal band is best or which sub-metal genre is best, and i ask myself, what good is this doing anybody? or i see food threads (not on this forum) where people are obsessed with seemingly trivial details of their food. i just cant help but advocate that people take a more flexible, non-committed approach to things.

anyways i am sorry if i am putting a negative into this thread, but i do not regret sparking dialogue on this matter.
you wouldnt feel that way if it was *your* magical sword of mantouchery that got stolen - racebannon
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
Last Edited: 2006-06-13 16:19:01
June 13 2006 16:18 GMT
#70
zulu have you heard the Flaming Lips?
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:19 GMT
#71
yes i have at war with the mystics, yoshimi battles the pink robots and the soft bulletin
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:21 GMT
#72
theyre good but everytime i listen to it i think back to when i really liked them and thus now theyre like a period band for me and i dont want to go back
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:23 GMT
#73
appreciate art a-game, its good for your soul
BroOd
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Austin10833 Posts
June 13 2006 16:23 GMT
#74
On June 14 2006 01:15 mrmin123 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 14 2006 01:13 BroOd wrote:
mrmin tell me more radiohead songs i should find.

i have about 300, but maybe you have some i dont?

Have you checked out the Towering Above The Rest collection? If you have that, there isn't much else I could recommend to you
Or you could check out the bootlegs of the 2006 Tour and listen to the new songs...


I don't have it, but would like to know where I could get it.
ModeratorSIRL and JLIG.
Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
June 13 2006 16:24 GMT
#75
On June 14 2006 01:17 zulu_nation8 wrote:
ive realized after all my experience with indie rock that i can never find anything similar to arcade fire or broken social scene because theyre almost like one hit wonders and their albums were inspired by unique circumstances, i dont like wolf parade or sunset rubdown i think theyre passionate with no real emotion and it sounds really bombastic. all i want now is just an album that has a lot more in itself and is worth repeated listens, i dont care what type of music, i just want something good, but preferably something along the lines of good experimental indie rock with smart ambiguous lyrics and a lot of guitars


have you tried giving a listen to "The Mars Volta"? It has a couple of "At the Drive-In"'s former members. Though it's a bit emo in the lyrics, the music makes up for it more than enough.
hay hay mayé, todos los negros tomamos maté!
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:28 GMT
#76
is mars volta mike patton, ive heard some people say hes a genius but havent really heard his music
zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:31 GMT
#77
btw i recommend to all destoryer - destroyer's rubies, its been the best album of the year for me so far. destroyer is daniel bejar, a member of the new pornographers, his music is bluesy experimental singer songwriterism,
Zeto
Profile Joined January 2005
United States2290 Posts
June 13 2006 16:32 GMT
#78
No, The Mars Volta formed in I believe 2000? It's considered an emo punk band, though I very much dislike all other punk, or emo that I've listened to.
hay hay mayé, todos los negros tomamos maté!
mrmin123 *
Profile Blog Joined January 2004
Korea (South)2971 Posts
June 13 2006 16:33 GMT
#79
On June 14 2006 01:18 a-game wrote:
mrmin:
i'm glad you ignored the rest of whats been going on lol it hasn't been pretty.. and i only really wanted to talk to you in the first place.

i'm going to address your two points in reverse order, firstly i'd like to correct myself, because while i feel classical music is more worthy of indepth anaylsis i still think it's a trivial pursuit to do so, and so i'd like to rescind my original comment to that regard.

i hear ya about being passionate for a thing, and it's a touchy thing for me to criticize. who am i to tell you what you should or should not be passionate about. i guess my main beef with it is, you see threads with passionate metal fans and they are bickering amongst themselves, and arguing over what appears to be quite trivial matters, ie which metal band is best or which sub-metal genre is best, and i ask myself, what good is this doing anybody? or i see food threads (not on this forum) where people are obsessed with seemingly trivial details of their food. i just cant help but advocate that people take a more flexible, non-committed approach to things.

anyways i am sorry if i am putting a negative into this thread, but i do not regret sparking dialogue on this matter.

First, I am going to have to ultimately agree with you as to the whole arguing about what band/genre/style/whateverthefuck is better. You really can't argue about these things since music is entirely objective and I doubt your best arguments can get a metalhead to listen to Debussy (unless said metalhead is extremely open-minded, which would be good). Such arguments ultimately have no point and is a fat waste of time. I think the best one could do is describe the music, and hope the other party takes interest, listens to it, and likes it on their own accord.

Second, I'm not sure about what you mean by a 'more flexible, non-committed approach.' When describing things like music I can't help but feel committed, although I think one could be very flexible in such things. In my opinion, when music is described it should 1. describe what it sounds like, since music is an audible form of media, and 2. describe what you feel. Now, to me, observations like 'what it sounds like' and 'what feelings it stirs up/conveys' requires a certain amount of committment. Flexibility, on the other hand, depends on how you want to convey such descriptions, of which it is limitless. Of course, I could be understanding you completely wrong. Please correct me.

My apologies if I am making little sense - I've been studying animal biology and organic chemistry for the last... 20 hours or so, on and off. I want to stab my eye out :D
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zulu_nation8
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
China26351 Posts
June 13 2006 16:34 GMT
#80
ah sorry i was thinking of fantomas, i will give it a try, which album should i get
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