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Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:36:32
September 26 2016 23:35 GMT
#103241
On September 27 2016 08:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Please no, we have a firearm thread on Teamliquid for it. It's a complex and emotional issue, I really think it's best if we keep it there... The mood is finally getting nice and mellow here, ready for the greatest reality TV there is in less than two hours.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/313472-if-youre-seeing-this-topic-then-another-mass-shooting-happened-and-people-disagree-on-what-to-do

(Mods, the joke has gone on long enough, I would think it's best to change the name of that thread, it makes TL look silly, that thread is in the community sidebar 75% of the time under the most viewed community subheading)

I was searching for the guns/firearms thread and assumed it was deleted, because I definitely recall there being one.

Did they merge it with the "mass shooting" thread? Because I definitely recall there being one concurrent to it.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Danglars
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States12133 Posts
September 26 2016 23:37 GMT
#103242
On September 27 2016 07:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As the debates are about to start, I am going to end my self-imposed exile in this thread.

I hope the debate inspires us to discuss policy issues instead of whatever outrageous thing said by one candidate or another or, by cursory glance, a 30(?) page discussion on if a poster is racist or not (even if it turns out to be true it's still toxic to read).
Wait, I thought Trump and Trump supporter's views on race relations was a central policy issue.
Great armies come from happy zealots, and happy zealots come from California!
TL+ Member
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
September 26 2016 23:37 GMT
#103243
On September 27 2016 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Please no, we have a firearm thread on Teamliquid for it. It's a complex and emotional issue, I really think it's best if we keep it there... The mood is finally getting nice and mellow here, ready for the greatest reality TV there is in less than two hours.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/313472-if-youre-seeing-this-topic-then-another-mass-shooting-happened-and-people-disagree-on-what-to-do

(Mods, the joke has gone on long enough, I would think it's best to change the name of that thread, it makes TL look silly, that thread is in the community sidebar 75% of the time under the most viewed community subheading)

I was searching for the guns/firearms thread and assumed it was deleted, because I definitely recall there being one.

Did they merge it with the "mass shooting" thread? Because I definitely recall there being one concurrent to it.


This is the same thread that was called the mass shooting thread.

If mods find the discussion in a thread silly, they like to rename it, like they renamed this one. Another example of this is:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/395037-north-korea-says-does-surprising-and-alarming-thing
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
oBlade
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States5742 Posts
September 26 2016 23:38 GMT
#103244
On September 27 2016 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Please no, we have a firearm thread on Teamliquid for it. It's a complex and emotional issue, I really think it's best if we keep it there... The mood is finally getting nice and mellow here, ready for the greatest reality TV there is in less than two hours.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/313472-if-youre-seeing-this-topic-then-another-mass-shooting-happened-and-people-disagree-on-what-to-do

(Mods, the joke has gone on long enough, I would think it's best to change the name of that thread, it makes TL look silly, that thread is in the community sidebar 75% of the time under the most viewed community subheading)

I was searching for the guns/firearms thread and assumed it was deleted, because I definitely recall there being one.

Did they merge it with the "mass shooting" thread? Because I definitely recall there being one concurrent to it.

That IS the gun control thread, it got renamed because it was only getting activity if a mass shooting was in the news.
"I read it. You know how to read, you ignorant fuck?" - Andy Dufresne
Mohdoo
Profile Joined August 2007
United States15723 Posts
September 26 2016 23:38 GMT
#103245
For those who don't want to bother with time zones, the debate is 1 hour and 22 minutes from this post.
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
September 26 2016 23:39 GMT
#103246
On September 27 2016 08:38 oBlade wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:35 Lord Tolkien wrote:
On September 27 2016 08:31 FiWiFaKi wrote:
Please no, we have a firearm thread on Teamliquid for it. It's a complex and emotional issue, I really think it's best if we keep it there... The mood is finally getting nice and mellow here, ready for the greatest reality TV there is in less than two hours.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/general/313472-if-youre-seeing-this-topic-then-another-mass-shooting-happened-and-people-disagree-on-what-to-do

(Mods, the joke has gone on long enough, I would think it's best to change the name of that thread, it makes TL look silly, that thread is in the community sidebar 75% of the time under the most viewed community subheading)

I was searching for the guns/firearms thread and assumed it was deleted, because I definitely recall there being one.

Did they merge it with the "mass shooting" thread? Because I definitely recall there being one concurrent to it.

That IS the gun control thread, it got renamed because it was only getting activity if a mass shooting was in the news.

...interesting.

I'll move the question over.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2016 23:40 GMT
#103247
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
Slaughter
Profile Blog Joined November 2003
United States20254 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:43:24
September 26 2016 23:42 GMT
#103248
Are people really triggered by trigger warnings? I have only seen them used in an academic setting where if the topic is one that can potentially trigger someone you put a sinple little warning about it before you go into the topic. I do a similar thing everytime I give a lecture and there will be dead human bodies on the slides.

Its just a small guesture letting people who attend a public event know about content. We warn people about content of shit all the time.
Never Knows Best.
zlefin
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
United States7689 Posts
September 26 2016 23:42 GMT
#103249
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

I will i've had all my beverages for the day by that point, so nothing. (beforehand it would be cranberry juice).
Great read: http://shorensteincenter.org/news-coverage-2016-general-election/ great book on democracy: http://press.princeton.edu/titles/10671.html zlefin is grumpier due to long term illness. Ignoring some users.
Reaps
Profile Joined June 2012
United Kingdom1280 Posts
September 26 2016 23:44 GMT
#103250
2AM my time, can i make it?

Of course i can its going to be the best piece of entertainment in years.
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
September 26 2016 23:44 GMT
#103251
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

Got a drinking game?
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
kwizach
Profile Joined June 2011
3658 Posts
September 26 2016 23:45 GMT
#103252
Anyone up for bets on the election result before the debate? I currently have a sig bet with GH over the winner of Washington state, and a money bet with iPlaY.NettleS over the winner of the election. Ban bets are reserved for GH and xDaunt, but money bets are welcome. We can discuss them over PM if the admins would rather not have us talk about those in the thread.
"Oedipus ruined a great sex life by asking too many questions." -- Stephen Colbert
Antyee
Profile Joined May 2011
Hungary1011 Posts
September 26 2016 23:47 GMT
#103253
On September 27 2016 08:44 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

Got a drinking game?

If you want to get really, really drunk:
https://imgur.com/gallery/6Bygo
"My spoon is too big."
Lord Tolkien
Profile Joined November 2012
United States12083 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:56:16
September 26 2016 23:49 GMT
#103254
On September 27 2016 08:37 Danglars wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 07:43 Lord Tolkien wrote:
As the debates are about to start, I am going to end my self-imposed exile in this thread.

I hope the debate inspires us to discuss policy issues instead of whatever outrageous thing said by one candidate or another or, by cursory glance, a 30(?) page discussion on if a poster is racist or not (even if it turns out to be true it's still toxic to read).
Wait, I thought Trump and Trump supporter's views on race relations was a central policy issue.

Even if it is, it is still a toxic argument that's been repeated ad nauseam in this thread and has little productive or written value at this point, since there's no actual actionable policies being discussed. If we're actually going to discuss these issues, I'd rather there be focus on policies that could potentially be implemented (like the merits, or complete lack thereof of "stop and frisk" as a local/state level policy), not whether or not one poster or another is a racist.

Like the brewing (repeated) argument about trigger warnings and "SJWs" that is spawning. It doesn't actually go anywhere besides being a long-winded argument about political correctness.
"His father is pretty juicy tbh." ~WaveofShadow
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2016 23:49 GMT
#103255
On September 27 2016 08:44 TheNewEra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

Got a drinking game?

Yeah, drink when I feel the pain of the science and compassion slipping out the US political lexicon. I should be trashed by 45 minutes.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
TheNewEra
Profile Joined March 2011
Germany3128 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:51:33
September 26 2016 23:50 GMT
#103256
On September 27 2016 08:47 Antyee wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:44 TheNewEra wrote:
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

Got a drinking game?

If you want to get really, really drunk:
https://imgur.com/gallery/6Bygo

So the only goal is to stay conscious longer than Clinton? Seems like a 50/50.
Well I'm hyped. Just wanna see a trainwreck
Midas <3 Casy <3 BeSt <3 | Pray to Doh-men, heathens! | Zwischen Harz und Heideland
TheFish7
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
United States2824 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:51:17
September 26 2016 23:51 GMT
#103257
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

a cyanide capsule with a side of self inflicted bullet to the head?
~ ~ <°)))><~ ~ ~
FiWiFaKi
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Canada9859 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-26 23:57:08
September 26 2016 23:51 GMT
#103258
1) I'd do 1 to 1 bets on Trump winning any one of:

-Florida
-NC
-Iowa
-Nevada
-Ohio

2) If I receive double the wager, I will bet that Trump will win all five of those.

3) If I receive 1.5 of my amount, I will bet that Trump will win any of:

-Colorado
-Pennsylvania
-Michigan

4) If I receive double my wager, I will bet that Hillary won't win a single state that Romney won

5) Since I don't have absolute faith in the American voter, I'd do a 1.5 my wager amount that Trump will become the POTUS.


I'd do sig/ban bets for any of the states in #1. Minimum bet $100, maximum $500.
In life, the journey is more satisfying than the destination. || .::Entrepreneurship::. Living a few years of your life like most people won't, so that you can spend the rest of your life like most people can't || Mechanical Engineering & Economics Major
Plansix
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States60190 Posts
September 26 2016 23:53 GMT
#103259
On September 27 2016 08:51 TheFish7 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 27 2016 08:40 Plansix wrote:
Alright, real discussion. I'm drinking jack daniels, prepared neat, during the debate. Give me all your drinks of choice for the dumpster fire we are about to witness.

a cyanide capsule with a side of self inflicted bullet to the head?

I am planning on pulling the plug on all social media and the internet if it goes the dark path on November 8, 2016. Dead to the world for 4 years.
I have the Honor to be your Obedient Servant, P.6
TL+ Member
LegalLord
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
United States13779 Posts
September 26 2016 23:55 GMT
#103260
On September 27 2016 08:44 Reaps wrote:
2AM my time, can i make it?

Of course i can its going to be the best piece of entertainment in years.

Hell, it's no different from staying up to watch Starcraft games live like I used to do when they still had Brood War proleague.
History will sooner or later sweep the European Union away without mercy.
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