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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
September 20 2018 06:34 GMT
#1661
Got a (likely) refurbished Samsung Galaxy S8+ from Carphone Warehouse as part of my insurance policy when I broke my own one over the weekend. I eventually discovered it failed SafetyNet and thus Google Pay was not working. KNOX was not tripped. It is not rooted. As far as I can tell it is stock firmware. A factory reset did not fix this.

Therefore my concern is that there might have been some malware/tampering at a system level.

My question is, if I use Odin to reflash stock firmware, is that likely to overwrite any possible system malware? Secondly, is SafetyNet like KNOX, where once you trip it it's permanently tripped, or does it pass once the offending problem is removed?

If there is any doubt about these things I might just ask for another replacement, but that means another three days with no phone.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
September 22 2018 23:04 GMT
#1662
Google needs to fire their entire design team.

"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 07 2018 02:46 GMT
#1663
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 09 2018 12:24 GMT
#1664
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
October 09 2018 14:14 GMT
#1665
If they have really pulled off some hilarious misleading marketing campaign then hats off to them and I will seriously consider buying the Pixel 3 XL.
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Warfie
Profile Joined February 2009
Norway2846 Posts
October 09 2018 16:03 GMT
#1666
So I didn't really know anything about the previous Pixel before coming into this, but who the hell uses AR characters in their photos lmao.

Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
October 09 2018 17:19 GMT
#1667
Hah, never mind, notch is real.
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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
October 09 2018 17:54 GMT
#1668
The Pixel Slate looks very cool. Home View interesting. The Pixel 3 would be the most amazing phone. If it wasn't for the screen sized notch.

But at least night sight is coming to all Pixel phones.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Excalibur_Z
Profile Joined October 2002
United States12240 Posts
October 09 2018 22:55 GMT
#1669
Ordered the Pixel3 XL. Not excited about the notch, but we'll see how annoying it really is in person. The rest of the featureset looks cool. Interesting fine print about the Pixel/Pixel2 Google Photos support: apparently the "unlimited storage in original format" for pictures ends in 2020, whereas Pixel3 owners get that support extended through 2022. After the expiration date, your photos are automatically downgraded to "high-quality", whatever that means.
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tec27
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States3702 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-09 23:15:36
October 09 2018 23:13 GMT
#1670
On October 10 2018 07:55 Excalibur_Z wrote:
Ordered the Pixel3 XL. Not excited about the notch, but we'll see how annoying it really is in person. The rest of the featureset looks cool. Interesting fine print about the Pixel/Pixel2 Google Photos support: apparently the "unlimited storage in original format" for pictures ends in 2020, whereas Pixel3 owners get that support extended through 2022. After the expiration date, your photos are automatically downgraded to "high-quality", whatever that means.

I *believe* the expiration applies to *new* photos uploaded after that point. Photos taken/uploaded prior to that date would remain full quality forever without counting against quota. Don't quote me on that though, I'll try and find the clarification they made around the time the Pixel 2 came out...

Edit:
Here you go: https://www.engadget.com/2017/10/05/google-photos-pixel-2-limit/

After 2020, there is no change to the photos you took before 2020 and you will always have access to those in original quality.
Can you jam with the console cowboys in cyberspace?
WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 10 2018 03:25 GMT
#1671
That is a big notch. I'm preferring Samsung's design, and after having tried stock Android on my business phone, I'm not that impressed with it.

(And given that I run a ton of background apps, stock Android or not doesn't make much difference with regards to performance for me)
EZ4ENCE
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-10 08:57:10
October 10 2018 08:43 GMT
#1672
I mean... it is just unbelievable, it almost seems like a rush job. How the hell did they think this would be ignored. Does a notch hold the phone together or something.



Google has announced that Duplex — the incredible AI system that allows Google Assistant to make real world calls on users’ behalf for things like restaurant reservations — will be available starting next month on a city-by-city basis for Google Pixel users, with Wired reporting that the service is planned to hit New York, Atlanta, Phoenix, and San Francisco by the end of this year.

First announced at Google I/O earlier this year, Duplex uses an incredibly, almost uncannily natural-sounding human voice, complete with with “umms” and “ahhs,” to intelligently handle real-world tasks for you that Google Assistant otherwise couldn’t manage through the internet.

Back at I/O, Google said that it was working on testing Duplex over the summer in three specific areas: calls about holiday hours, restaurant reservations, and hair cut appointments, but according to Wired’s report, Duplex will only call restaurants that don’t already take online reservations to start. Additionally, Wired notes that Google now has a policy that Duplex will always reveal that it’s not actually a real person when calling, which should help assuage concerns over the bot’s potentially deceptive nature.

But there’s still a lot we don’t know about Duplex’s rollout, including which devices (will Google be enabling it for just the Pixel 3, or all Pixels?) or when it’s rolling out, but Google did promise that more details would be forthcoming, so hopefully it won’t be long before we know more.


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"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
October 10 2018 10:33 GMT
#1673
I love how there's a HUGE NOTCH + a BIG BEZEL at the bottom

I mean, what's the point... The idea of a notch is to cram everything needed there and have the biggest screen possible, android notched phones (and ESPECIALLY the Pixel 3 XL) added a notch for no reason it seems as they all have a notch + bezels

And $800 for a pixel 3 64gb.... Not to mention $80 for their charging stand lol

If you can't do a notch without bezels rather follow the S8/S9 design...

Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
aseq
Profile Joined January 2003
Netherlands3991 Posts
October 10 2018 14:25 GMT
#1674
Why does anyone want a glass back on a smartphone? I can't think of any reason. It's heavy, slippery and can break?
Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
October 10 2018 17:50 GMT
#1675
On October 10 2018 23:25 aseq wrote:
Why does anyone want a glass back on a smartphone? I can't think of any reason. It's heavy, slippery and can break?

Wireless charging.
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ZerOCoolSC2
Profile Blog Joined February 2015
9008 Posts
October 10 2018 17:54 GMT
#1676
Waiting on the OnePlus 6T to drop. That's the phone I'm getting next.
R1CH
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Netherlands10341 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-10-11 09:38:08
October 11 2018 09:37 GMT
#1677
On October 11 2018 02:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 10 2018 23:25 aseq wrote:
Why does anyone want a glass back on a smartphone? I can't think of any reason. It's heavy, slippery and can break?

Wireless charging.

Plastic is RF transparent too. I'd rather have a plastic back than glass that I have to put a plastic case around because it's so damn slippery.
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Firebolt145
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Lalalaland34498 Posts
October 11 2018 17:50 GMT
#1678
Yeah but there were years of people reviewing plastic as 'cheap feeling' and we tend to reap what we sow.
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WindWolf
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
Sweden11767 Posts
October 11 2018 20:21 GMT
#1679
On October 12 2018 02:50 Firebolt145 wrote:
Yeah but there were years of people reviewing plastic as 'cheap feeling' and we tend to reap what we sow.

As someone that had a Samsung Galaxy S4 back in the days, yeah I can understand why people feel this way.

For me personally anyway, wireless charging is a must-have feature for new phones. Yes it is not as fast as normal charging, but I do almost nothing when I get home from work anyway so it doesn't really matter for me. Plus it makes live easier when you need to adress a call or whatever.
EZ4ENCE
Faruko
Profile Joined April 2013
Chile34171 Posts
October 20 2018 11:33 GMT
#1680


Samsung showed a camera within the screen

No notch future pls 🙌
Ross was right // "Jesus Christ nahaz is doing shots before my eyes" (Sn0_Man, 2018)
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