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Kahzaar
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden897 Posts
August 16 2012 18:03 GMT
#121
I'm pretty hyped about this movie, hopefully it's as good as it seems.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
August 18 2012 18:49 GMT
#122
On August 17 2012 01:30 Ludwigvan wrote:
this just looks horrible, kitschy and dumb. It has nothing new to offer. The celebrity faces we never wanted to see again are combined in a "meaningful" piece of mystical supernatural fuckfest. Tom Tykwer seems to make movies only for believers that think there is something more to life than the objective. Go watch Tree of life, this just looks like a fucking boring "I am part of something bigger, but I don't know how to present it properly" flick. (^_^)

EDIT: I can see how the story and book might be really interesting and great, even if you don't believe in a soul. However, the look of the different times and storylines presented just seems to be such a cliché.

It's not a cliché, at least not in the book. It's got nothing to do with being part of something bigger, on the contrary. Just go to the library and read it. It's not an easy read, but a very satisfying one.
DwD
Profile Joined January 2010
Sweden8621 Posts
August 18 2012 19:08 GMT
#123
WHAAAT It's Bae Doo Na out of nowhere! God of Study etc. Holy now I got excited!
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AnachronisticAnarchy
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States2957 Posts
August 18 2012 19:09 GMT
#124
Interesting. It definitely has promise, but it can definitely end up being an utterly horrible piece of shit.
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EtohEtoh
Profile Joined May 2011
Canada669 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-18 19:19:31
August 18 2012 19:18 GMT
#125
I read the book after seeing the trailer, in the book, the entire "souls cross ages" thing is not even a plot point. If you collect all the passages that hint at the idea of reincarnation together, you'll at most get a page. All there really is is mentions of the birthmark, and like the two passages about clouds. it's never overtly expressed

on the other hand, i can bet you that the movie will lean heavily on the reincarnation motif, as shown in the movie trailer. Blockbusters aren't really known for their subtlety, and there's going to be a certain expectation if you're telling viewers that the film is from the makers of the matrix
Thewildfish
Profile Joined September 2010
United States113 Posts
August 18 2012 19:24 GMT
#126
I don't understand all the people hating on Tom Hanks...I can't think of a single movie he's been in that I've disliked. Dude is a great actor.
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 18 2012 19:32 GMT
#127
So much stuff is happening in that trailer... is this going to be a 10 hour movie? x_x
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Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 18 2012 19:35 GMT
#128
On August 19 2012 04:24 Thewildfish wrote:
I don't understand all the people hating on Tom Hanks...I can't think of a single movie he's been in that I've disliked. Dude is a great actor.

I agree. His best work: + Show Spoiler +
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KiF1rE
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States964 Posts
August 18 2012 19:45 GMT
#129
At this point I seem so confused on whether i want to see this movie... even all the posts in this thread don't really reveal much of what im looking for... First off what is this movie about? How much of a drama was the book? how much scifi? I am just so torn, drama i dont care for to much, but scifi i love lol... same with the actors in this movie, actually about everything i know so far about this movie I'm split evenly.
Jopz
Profile Joined January 2008
United States262 Posts
August 19 2012 00:22 GMT
#130
On August 19 2012 04:45 KiF1rE wrote:
At this point I seem so confused on whether i want to see this movie... even all the posts in this thread don't really reveal much of what im looking for... First off what is this movie about? How much of a drama was the book? how much scifi? I am just so torn, drama i dont care for to much, but scifi i love lol... same with the actors in this movie, actually about everything i know so far about this movie I'm split evenly.


Based on the book, I'd say it leans a little more toward sci fi than drama, but its main focus is more about human nature.
Some spoilers below:
+ Show Spoiler +
Based on the book, I wouldn't say it's so much drama as a story about the nature of humankind, and how across our history, we fall into the same pitfalls and traps and ways of thinking that cause us to harm and enslave one another. It would be a little depressing, but it also shows how as individuals we redeem our race by our ability to love one another and stand for what is right.
white_horse
Profile Joined July 2010
1019 Posts
August 19 2012 00:46 GMT
#131
On August 17 2012 01:30 Ludwigvan wrote:
this just looks horrible, kitschy and dumb. It has nothing new to offer. The celebrity faces we never wanted to see again are combined in a "meaningful" piece of mystical supernatural fuckfest. this just looks like a fucking boring "I am part of something bigger, but I don't know how to present it properly" flick. (^_^)


This is nicely put but maybe too harshly. A lot of movies try too hard. But it could be a good movie, I would go watch it.

What is with everyone thinking that the trailer is sooo amazing? It doesn't tell the viewer anything about the movie other than suggesting that the movie is going to span different time periods that are apparently intertwined. Thats cool, but whats the plot?
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Xiphos
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Canada7507 Posts
August 19 2012 00:56 GMT
#132
On August 19 2012 09:46 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:30 Ludwigvan wrote:
this just looks horrible, kitschy and dumb. It has nothing new to offer. The celebrity faces we never wanted to see again are combined in a "meaningful" piece of mystical supernatural fuckfest. this just looks like a fucking boring "I am part of something bigger, but I don't know how to present it properly" flick. (^_^)


This is nicely put but maybe too harshly. A lot of movies try too hard. But it could be a good movie, I would go watch it.

What is with everyone thinking that the trailer is sooo amazing? It doesn't tell the viewer anything about the movie other than suggesting that the movie is going to span different time periods that are apparently intertwined. Thats cool, but whats the plot?


So those couples that spawned from each eras/time periods are just incarnation of their past ancestors. That's what I got from it. Probably something romantic along is the story.

Oh well, time to read the book before seeing the movie now.
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krndandaman
Profile Joined August 2009
Mozambique16569 Posts
August 19 2012 01:38 GMT
#133
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Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-08-19 01:50:20
August 19 2012 01:48 GMT
#134
On August 19 2012 04:45 KiF1rE wrote:
At this point I seem so confused on whether i want to see this movie... even all the posts in this thread don't really reveal much of what im looking for... First off what is this movie about? How much of a drama was the book? how much scifi? I am just so torn, drama i dont care for to much, but scifi i love lol... same with the actors in this movie, actually about everything i know so far about this movie I'm split evenly.


Part of the point of the book was that it hopped genres as it hopped stories, going from a Melville seafaring epic to a hardboiled detective story to a dystopian future novel and so forth, granting each story about the same amount of "book". What made the book really good was that it was smart enough to tweak and send up those genres as it went along, as a result finishing as something a bit more than the sum of its parts.

I'm cautiously optimistic about this movie, but a few things have caused my optimism to wane. I'm worried that they're ditching the telling-half-a-story-at-a-time format, and instead rapidly bouncing between them all. I feel like that would take away from the whole welding radically different genres together idea. But I guess it makes sense for reducing the length of the movie. I also don't like that they're using the same actors for multiple parts, I think that's a little too heavy-handed with the "everything is connected!" symbolism.

I still think the ideal format for telling Cloud Atlas would've been something like an HBO series, granting each "chapter" an episode. I just don't see how they're going to properly fit each emotional arc into a ~2.5 hour movie. (I suspect the Cavendish section is gonna be gutted)
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.Sic.
Profile Joined February 2011
Korea (South)497 Posts
August 19 2012 02:32 GMT
#135
On July 27 2012 11:33 kaisen wrote:
Seriously, What The Fuck?

In the novel, the male character in future segment is suppose to be an Asian character, more specifically, Korean.

Now they are portraying a white guy as Asian character?

Seriously, this kind of hollywood douchebaggery needs to stop.


Pretty sure bae doona also portrays a white character despite being korean. They wanted the same actors to portray the same couples.
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matiK23
Profile Joined May 2011
United States963 Posts
August 19 2012 02:46 GMT
#136
seems pretentious, I'll wait for it on netflix streaming
Without a paddle up shit creek.
maartendq
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
Belgium3115 Posts
August 20 2012 13:50 GMT
#137
On August 19 2012 09:46 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:30 Ludwigvan wrote:
this just looks horrible, kitschy and dumb. It has nothing new to offer. The celebrity faces we never wanted to see again are combined in a "meaningful" piece of mystical supernatural fuckfest. this just looks like a fucking boring "I am part of something bigger, but I don't know how to present it properly" flick. (^_^)


This is nicely put but maybe too harshly. A lot of movies try too hard. But it could be a good movie, I would go watch it.

What is with everyone thinking that the trailer is sooo amazing? It doesn't tell the viewer anything about the movie other than suggesting that the movie is going to span different time periods that are apparently intertwined. Thats cool, but whats the plot?

There isn't a plot in the book. At least not an overarching one.
Zrana
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United Kingdom698 Posts
August 20 2012 14:22 GMT
#138
Wasnt there a Robin Williams film a bit like this? He played a different guy in multiple time periods.
Damn can't remember the name but it had at least vague suggestions of reincarnation.
TheRealPaciFist
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1049 Posts
August 21 2012 06:33 GMT
#139
On August 19 2012 09:46 white_horse wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 17 2012 01:30 Ludwigvan wrote:
this just looks horrible, kitschy and dumb. It has nothing new to offer. The celebrity faces we never wanted to see again are combined in a "meaningful" piece of mystical supernatural fuckfest. this just looks like a fucking boring "I am part of something bigger, but I don't know how to present it properly" flick. (^_^)


This is nicely put but maybe too harshly. A lot of movies try too hard. But it could be a good movie, I would go watch it.

What is with everyone thinking that the trailer is sooo amazing? It doesn't tell the viewer anything about the movie other than suggesting that the movie is going to span different time periods that are apparently intertwined. Thats cool, but whats the plot?


Actually, I'm happy when a preview DOESN'T reveal the entire plot, as trailers tend to do so often


On August 19 2012 04:09 AnachronisticAnarchy wrote:
Interesting. It definitely has promise, but it can definitely end up being an utterly horrible piece of shit.


Basically how I feel, but I'm letting my hopes up.
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monk
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States8476 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-09-10 09:21:50
September 10 2012 09:21 GMT
#140
Bought the book because of the trailer. The first few pages were a tough read to get into, but after I got past them, the rest of the book has been really enthralling so far. Really looking forward to the movie. Anyone else currently reading or has finished reading the book?
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