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On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world.
Dear BionicWaffle,
please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson,
sincerely,
some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world.
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On April 20 2012 08:25 Mr Showtime wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 08:17 Monkeyslave wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Seriously, people need to start realizing that all the other politicians are bought out and the only person that isn't and WILL bring real change is Ron Paul. Hes been consistent on his view points for the past few decades, hes been right on many huge issues that have happened, and hes the only one that will actually follow the constitution. + Show Spoiler +Here's a video of Ron Paul pretty much saying what would happen in the past decade. I'm really sick of this shit, amongst others, being shoved in my face. Enough with Ron Paul
I wish I could understand why this attitude is so common among Americans.
"Excuse me! I'm trying to have a discussion here on whether we should give the most important job in the world to an incompetent man or to a corrupt man. Stop interrupting me by talking about that guy who's intelligent, qualified, and wants to actually change our broken system instead of just talking about it!"
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Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste.
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Oh this thread is going to be hell. Especially when the elections get closer. I'll be voting for Obama. I may not agree with every single thing he does, but he is a hell of a lot better than Romney. Obama is looking towards the future, Romney is not. LET THE GAMES BEGIN!!!!!!!!!
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On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world.
I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you.
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On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste.
To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide.
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I wish I could hack the poll and enter Ron Paul into it.
VOTE FOR RON PAUL! 3rd party ticket 2012!
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On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide.
I don't even vote. People vote to one party of the other because there is no third party with a shot of winning. So we are stuck with the crap the two parties give us.
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On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you.
I could care less if people lose hope in me. They don't live here. I don't even care what people here think of me. To me it's simple. Waste gas and put miles on my car, or pay to go vote for people I don't want to run the country.
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On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide.
Agreed. Voting for the candidate that most represents your stance on the issues is the civic responsibility of responsible citizens and is never a waste. Put your faith into ideas and movements, not politicians. All movements start small, but none will ever gain momentum as long as defeatist and pragmatic rhetoric are chosen over logic and reason.
EDIT: I still don't think he would actually have won the nomination though lol.
EDIT 2: Can we get clarification on the mod note? Are we not allowed to discuss 3rd party candidates here? I don't think Ron Paul has ruled out running as an independent.
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On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide.
I think you're overestimating his support, a lot.
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On April 20 2012 09:09 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide. I don't even vote. People vote to one party of the other because there is no third party with a shot of winning. So we are stuck with the crap the two parties give us.
Not voting isn't going to change that, though. At least vote for a 3rd party candidate.
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On April 20 2012 09:11 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you. I could care less if people lose hope in me. They don't live here. I don't even care what people here think of me. To me it's simple. Waste gas and put miles on my car, or pay to go vote for people I don't want to run the country.
So, your general viewpoint is waste as much money as you can. That's nice.
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On April 20 2012 09:11 Voltaire wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:09 Jisall wrote:On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide. I don't even vote. People vote to one party of the other because there is no third party with a shot of winning. So we are stuck with the crap the two parties give us. Not voting isn't going to change that, though. At least vote for a 3rd party candidate.
Edit: Irrelevant to Obama vs. Romney.
I don't want to waste the gas.
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On April 20 2012 09:12 BionicWaffle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:11 Jisall wrote:On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you. I could care less if people lose hope in me. They don't live here. I don't even care what people here think of me. To me it's simple. Waste gas and put miles on my car, or pay to go vote for people I don't want to run the country. So, your general viewpoint is waste as much money as you can. That's nice.
To the contrary. I don't like to spend money I don't need to. No matter who gets elected they run the same political games. Thats my opinion at least.
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The problem with Ron Paul, aside from his beliefs and policies, is that he has closely associated himself with a vocal fringe minority of crazies. It has gotten to the point that moderates no longer associate Ron Paul with his freedom message but instead with the single-minded doomsday prophet members of the church of Ron Paul. Most moderates feel equally unsettled by these people as they are by birthers and other partisan fanatics.
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On April 20 2012 09:05 Monkeyslave wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:01 Jisall wrote:
Both choices suck. To bad I voting for ron paul is a waste. To many people have this view point as well, thinking voting for Ron Paul would be a waste. If everyone who thought this actually just voted for him and with the current support he has now from people he would win by a landslide.
No, he certainly wouldn't.
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On April 20 2012 09:17 Jisall wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:12 BionicWaffle wrote:On April 20 2012 09:11 Jisall wrote:On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you. I could care less if people lose hope in me. They don't live here. I don't even care what people here think of me. To me it's simple. Waste gas and put miles on my car, or pay to go vote for people I don't want to run the country. So, your general viewpoint is waste as much money as you can. That's nice. To the contrary. I don't like to spend money I don't need to. No matter who gets elected they run the same political games. Thats my opinion at least.
Ron Paul is trying to put more money into the taxpayer's pocket. However, I do agree with your viewpoint that everyone runs the same political games, but what more can you say than you just have to be open your mind to someone who knows what they're talking about.
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On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you.
I am not American, but if I was I would lean towards the right (I support free markets, just not religious conservatism). Stop fucking presuming that everyone in Europe supports Obama.
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On April 20 2012 09:26 Black and Proud wrote:Show nested quote +On April 20 2012 09:05 BionicWaffle wrote:On April 20 2012 08:55 Black and Proud wrote:On April 20 2012 07:50 BionicWaffle wrote:
Dear America,
I see you have once again forgotten your only hope at survival, Ron Paul
Sincerely,
Rest of the fucking world. Dear BionicWaffle, please stop presuming to speak for the rest of the fucking world, especially when you mention meatheads like Paul who is anything but libertarian when compared to politicians like Gary Johnson, sincerely, some guy who is a part of the rest of the fucking world. I see, and you Americans wonder why people lose hope for you. I am not American, but if I was I would lean towards the right (I support free markets, just not religious conservatism). Stop fucking presuming that everyone in Europe supports Obama.
I don't remember saying everyone in Europe Supports Obama, but continue to make yourself look ridiculous, I'm sure it amuses others.
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