On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money.
thats the problem in the game industry.
in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to.
names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa.
also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way .
i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i dont like that much of what they done with sc2,the "new blizzard", hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else.
On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money.
thats the problem in the game industry.
in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to.
names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa.
also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way .
i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else.
I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion.
You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words.
On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money.
thats the problem in the game industry.
in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to.
names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa.
also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way .
Yes, and so long that everyone thinks that way, nothing will ever change. As long as you think your vote doesn't matter, then it doesn't.
Also, yes, there's only one of any particular game. But for the vast majority of games, you can find something like it. Yes, it won't be the same story. It won't be the same gameplay. But it'll be similar enough. Or, God forbid, do without. People act like they absolutely must have some particular entertainment. Like it's their life or something.
You don't need any particular videogame. The world will not end if you miss out on the next iteration of FIFA or Assassin's Creed or whatever. All it takes is personal discipline.
Sadly, that is a quality that modern western societies lack as of late.
I'm so glad I don't play EA games anymore. Didn't get battlefield and probably wont, but honestly why are you swearing on official forums anyways - I would assume this happened there. I would think that most companies try to keep their sites as clean and professional as possible so they don't give out a bad image of themselves. However I think this is a little over the top and should be looked at again.
On December 06 2011 07:13 FoeHamr wrote: I'm so glad I don't play EA games anymore. Didn't get battlefield and probably wont, but honestly why are you swearing on official forums anyways - I would assume this happened there. I would think that most companies try to keep their sites as clean and professional as possible so they don't give out a bad image of themselves. However I think this is a little over the top and should be looked at again.
I think it is an issue if the automated system bans you for having your username show up in someone else's hateful post.
On December 06 2011 07:13 FoeHamr wrote: I'm so glad I don't play EA games anymore. Didn't get battlefield and probably wont, but honestly why are you swearing on official forums anyways - I would assume this happened there. I would think that most companies try to keep their sites as clean and professional as possible so they don't give out a bad image of themselves. However I think this is a little over the top and should be looked at again.
I think it is an issue if the automated system bans you for having your username show up in someone else's hateful post.
Wait a minute. If I go and post on the forums calling someone out, raging, and overall being a prick - they get banned for it? That's just fucked up and doesn't make sense.
Wasn't planning on buying any EA games in the near future anyhow, this just gives me more reason not to. I hope EA gets sued for this, it sounds completely insane. People should probably avoid forums associated with game accounts imo. If you can lose your access to a game you paid for because of something you wrote on a forum it doesn't seem worth the risk, especially if the moderators go mad with power (or whatever it is that caused this situation)
I don't see a problem with banning people ingame aswell as forum, based on their forum behavior. If you act like a dick, just to be a dick, just because you can - you deserve it.. Deal with the consequences, dick.
EAs other practices? Horrible. Lets hope they die out soon.
On December 06 2011 07:39 Trashie wrote: I don't see a problem with banning people ingame aswell as forum, based on their forum behavior. If you act like a dick, just to be a dick, just because you can - you deserve it.. Deal with the consequences, dick.
EAs other practices? Horrible. Lets hope they die out soon.
Do you see a problem with EA banning people who were simply mentioned in someone else's posts?
Do you see a problem with them denying access to the single player game when they have said that forum bans would not affect Origin accounts?
On December 06 2011 07:39 Trashie wrote: I don't see a problem with banning people ingame aswell as forum, based on their forum behavior. If you act like a dick, just to be a dick, just because you can - you deserve it.. Deal with the consequences, dick.
EAs other practices? Horrible. Lets hope they die out soon.
Do you see a problem with EA banning people who were simply mentioned in someone else's posts?
Do you see a problem with them denying access to the single player game when they have said that forum bans would not affect Origin accounts?
Did you even read the OP?
Well, all of these things happen, and will continue to happen until we stop buying EA's stuff. Their games are good enough to warrant a TON of people buying them, and as long as they have those sales, then nothing'll change.
Frankly, i think it was a little harsh, and it really sucks for the guy who was banned simply for being mentioned, but it is their forums, and their game platform, and they can ban for whatever reason they like.
If they deemed it fit, they could ban you because of the username you picked, or the fact that you play too much and don't get enough sleep.
Granted, they wouldn't, but they COULD.
It's sad, but it's not like people are going to stop buying battlefield, or other EA Games that come out every year
On December 06 2011 06:40 overt wrote: The solution to all of this is to just not buy EA or Activision products. You're supporting the two companies that are ruining video games when you do.
If you boycott those companies (which would include not buying Blizzard games btw) you can actually hope for things to change. Like for Origin to be less shitty. For EA's customer service to be better. For Activision to stop being dicks to their employees and producing games like they're all Madden.
Boycotts work. Buying EA/Activision games and then bitching about lack of features and shitty customer service doesn't because they're still getting your money.
thats the problem in the game industry.
in a sense a company has the monopoly on a product. while in most other branches the products more or less do the same there is only ONE starcraft and only ONE assassins creed and only ONE Fifa etc. so boycotting a company(esp big publishers) shuts yourself out of products you might really want and have no alternative to.
names like that will sell no matter what. even if tomorrow came out that EA is extracting kids souls to power their servers people would still buy the next fifa.
also in todays grand global videogame industry you have a hard time getting noticed that way .
i mean i agree with you and as said in my previous post dont plan to buy EA games anytime soon. but i WILL buy hots and d3 even tho i hate much of what they done with sc2, hate activision, HATE kotick etc just because i need to have them and i cant get them from anyone else.
I understand why most people don't choose to boycott EA/Activision but those two companies are, imo, ruining the video game industry. If people want shit to change you have to actually do something rather than complain about it on reddit or TL and send angry emails. Most of the people bitching about Origin and EA will probably end up buying Mass Effect 3 regardless. Most of the people who are mad about Activision laying off the guys at Infinity Ward, not putting LAN in SC2, and all of the other shenanigans that they pull will still buy the new Call of Duty or StarCraft expansion.
You have to show companies that you're mad with your wallet not with your words.
The answer is easy if you ask me :p
Piracy
Just download the games you want to play but are being made by some douche company and pay for games from studios you like. Don't give money to Blizzard, give it to indie developers or other companies which are not controlled by money
i don't understand where this sudden hatred of blizzard is coming from, this is an EA thing, yes they have a parent company of Activision, but that doesn't mean suddenly because EA did this, Blizzard is at fault. Sometimes the fanaticism of this forum is mind bogglingly stupid.
On December 06 2011 07:39 Trashie wrote: I don't see a problem with banning people ingame aswell as forum, based on their forum behavior. If you act like a dick, just to be a dick, just because you can - you deserve it.. Deal with the consequences, dick.
EAs other practices? Horrible. Lets hope they die out soon.
Do you see a problem with EA banning people who were simply mentioned in someone else's posts?
Do you see a problem with them denying access to the single player game when they have said that forum bans would not affect Origin accounts?
Did you even read the OP?
The OP just showed a flaw in the system. Obviously that is not the moderation that EA is after, ifact i would argue that this probably happens more than one would expect! Except it is dealt with faster and quiter. They will update their software and the problem will go away.
No honestly i do not, why are you being a dick to begin with? If you are posting on EA's forum shitting all over other people and their product, I personally do not see a problem with them withdrawing access to your account.
These kinds of issues will continue as we increasingly transition toward software as a service. The only way to respond is to either boycott SaaS (pretty much impossible IMO) or only support the companies that at least try to take care of their customers.
On December 06 2011 07:39 Trashie wrote: I don't see a problem with banning people ingame aswell as forum, based on their forum behavior. If you act like a dick, just to be a dick, just because you can - you deserve it.. Deal with the consequences, dick.
EAs other practices? Horrible. Lets hope they die out soon.
Oh, I do. Even if they clean up the exploit, it's still a horrible consequence. Again, I've never understood the fascination for curse words. However, the punishment should match the crime. If swearing is disallowed on the forums, then ban them from the forums. But for instance, Honda can't take away your car if you post a nasty comment on their website. It's just isn't legal. But what the gaming industry has done is made all the cars dependent on the manufacturer so they can shut it on and off at will.
There may be cases where in forum actions may warrant ingame bans, but I can't think of any. Ruining other people's fun with hacking... sure. But being a douche on a forum? There's no way a company could've done this in earlier days. They just didn't have that much control. To do the equivalent, they'd have to break into your house and physically confiscate it. It really moves the games away from personal property and more to a glorified rental system.
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