No, I promise you that Newt is as smart as advertised. Newt is too smart for his own good, which is why he gets into trouble. He'd thrash Obama in a straight up debate.

You promise?

I'll hold you to that! :p

PhoKingSoupa

United States4 Posts

January 24 2012 02:01 GMT

#7002

It is quite astonishing how many of these forum goers are severely mislead by main stream media. People who think Ron Paul is "crazy" and has "no chance of winning" are eating the mainstream BS. Listen to him speak before you create labels like such. He is the only candidate who sticks to his principles and doesn't just answer questions with empty rhetoric. He is the only candidate who wants to end all the wars and he is the only candidate who actually has a shot against Obama (who must not get re elected).

To say that Ron Paul can't receive votes from moderates is ignorant because he actually leads all polls regarding democratic votes for republican candidates.

Don't believe everything the main stream news tells you, do your own research and actually listen to each candidate speak rather than spread quotes from the news, in the hope to sound "informed".

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

January 24 2012 02:04 GMT

#7003

On January 24 2012 10:56 Roe wrote:

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so....can you tell me why he's actually so smart instead of just saying "I promise!". that's a joke of an endorsement.

Anyone with half a brain who has watched the debates knows that Newt is very smart. Additionally, he has an incredible depth of knowledge to go with it.

I'm not sure what to say other than "I feel bad for you" if none of this is obvious.

GreenManalishi

Canada834 Posts

January 24 2012 02:04 GMT

#7004

On January 24 2012 11:01 PhoKingSoupa wrote:
It is quite astonishing how many of these forum goers are severely mislead by main stream media. People who think Ron Paul is "crazy" and has "no chance of winning" are eating the mainstream BS. Listen to him speak before you create labels like such. He is the only candidate who sticks to his principles and doesn't just answer questions with empty rhetoric. He is the only candidate who wants to end all the wars and he is the only candidate who actually has a shot against Obama (who must not get re elected).

To say that Ron Paul can't receive votes from moderates is ignorant because he actually leads all polls regarding democratic votes for republican candidates.

Don't believe everything the main stream news tells you, do your own research and actually listen to each candidate speak rather than spread quotes from the news, in the hope to sound "informed".

We have all been hearing him speak. If you look through the thread, there are hundreds of Ron Paul youtube clips. Many of us have also watched the debates. Read the thread before posting.

Economist is live blogging again! Let the fun begin.

Saryph

United States1955 Posts

January 24 2012 02:05 GMT

#7005

How many times in this thread have we all read "If you just knew more about Ron Paul's ideas and beliefs you would love him"?

People know his stance, and most Americans don't like it, for various reasons. Maybe you shouldn't just assume that everyone is blinded by the media, and consider that maybe there are other people who pay attention too, and have legitimate problems with his stances on issues.

PhoKingSoupa

United States4 Posts

January 24 2012 02:06 GMT

#7006

Also, don't drink the Gingrich cool aid. While he is intelligent he does not have our (the citizens') interests at heart and has accepted millions from national banks, who are responsible for the collapse of the world economy. So please, all of those who are planning on voting for Newt Gingrich, do your research!

GGTeMpLaR

United States7226 Posts

January 24 2012 02:07 GMT

#7007

Taking bets on how long before RP gets a question in this debate.

So far it's just been Gingrich and Romney acting like children attacking one another and the NBC moderator encouraging them on lol

Saryph

United States1955 Posts

January 24 2012 02:09 GMT

#7008

Newt cheated on multiple wives, left them when they got cancer/MS, was brought up on ethics charges, the only Speaker of the House to have such a problem, and was forced to pay $300k for ethics problems. He then had to resign in disgrace and became a lobbyist for an organization that his party hates possibly more than anything short of abortion.

Yeah.... its pretty bad when that is the guy who is leading the family values party.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

January 24 2012 02:10 GMT

#7009

Stream isn't working =(, and I'm technically supposed to be studying.

LR pleaseee

Derez

Netherlands6068 Posts

January 24 2012 02:12 GMT

#7010

All out negative warfare between Mitt and Newt. Newt taking credit for everything during clinton and before. Romney not a complete disaster.

Blackrobe

United States806 Posts

January 24 2012 02:12 GMT

#7011

Oh look it's the Romney vs Gingrich pillow fight.

xDaunt

United States17988 Posts

January 24 2012 02:12 GMT

#7012

On January 24 2012 11:06 PhoKingSoupa wrote:
Also, don't drink the Gingrich cool aid. While he is intelligent he does not have our (the citizens') interests at heart and has accepted millions from national banks, who are responsible for the collapse of the world economy. So please, all of those who are planning on voting for Newt Gingrich, do your research!

Don't get me wrong. I'm not endorsing Gingrich, and I recognize the problems that he brings as a candidate.

acker

United States2958 Posts

January 24 2012 02:13 GMT

#7013

The real winner of this fight might be Obama if this keeps up, judging from the live blogs.

GreenManalishi

Canada834 Posts

January 24 2012 02:15 GMT

#7014

On January 24 2012 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
Stream isn't working =(, and I'm technically supposed to be studying.

LR pleaseee

http://www.economist.com/blogs/democracyinamerica/2012/01/republican-nomination-8

Economist is live blogging on the debate. Might be worth checking out, I don't think we can keep up a LR.

Mordanis

United States893 Posts

January 24 2012 02:17 GMT

#7015

On January 24 2012 11:10 1Eris1 wrote:
Stream isn't working =(, and I'm technically supposed to be studying.

LR pleaseee

Did you click on the play button? That had me confused for about a minute :/

Anyways, Paul is talking about electability, and how he is getting so much support from younger people. He's now saying that he likely won't run as a 3rd party.

EDIT: whoops I guess that isn't necessary

Kiarip

United States1835 Posts

January 24 2012 02:18 GMT

#7016

I'd probably take Romney over Gingrich if I had to pick between the two... =/

Saryph

United States1955 Posts

January 24 2012 02:18 GMT

#7017

Gingrich now saying he wants a commission to look into going back to gold as our currency? Sure is trying to make it easy to reelect Obama.

1Eris1

United States5797 Posts

January 24 2012 02:20 GMT

#7018

On January 24 2012 11:17 Mordanis wrote:

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Nah page won't even load = /. The Economist's reports are hilarious though

Saryph

United States1955 Posts

January 24 2012 02:22 GMT

#7019

According to Gingrich's tax plan Mitt Romney would pay no taxes at all.

Mordanis

United States893 Posts

January 24 2012 02:23 GMT

#7020

Damn. Can't get educated about who I'll vote for, have to see a movie with my grandfather. Does anyone know where I could get a synopsis of what everyone said or a VOD?