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{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 02:57:08
January 20 2012 02:55 GMT
#6441
Uh there were many things the Founders were not aware/could predict Romney; the Internet, Railroad, Monopolies, Women's Rights etc.

He even dodges the question of why SC should for him. I mean really...
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
January 20 2012 02:55 GMT
#6442
Notice Paul is the only one who doesn't attack Obama.
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ZERG_RUSSIAN
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
10417 Posts
January 20 2012 02:56 GMT
#6443
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I'm on GOLD CHAIN
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
January 20 2012 02:57 GMT
#6444
On January 20 2012 11:52 acker wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 20 2012 11:51 {CC}StealthBlue wrote:
On January 20 2012 11:51 acker wrote:
Where were the Iran questions?


I think CNN had to skip it seeing how long the Immigration debate took.


...well, that's good for Paul, but I kind of wanted to hear the crazy from the rest of the candidates

I wish we could stop relying on labels like "crazy" in this political system. If anyone has a serious disagreement with a politician, it needs to be articulated and endlessly articulated until either the people finally either accept it or reject it. If we resort to a battle of labels, we are no better than the politicians who themselves fight an endless war of placing or avoiding labels. A dumbed down or ad hominem political system will never be good for the pursuit of democracy or progress.
KgKris
Profile Joined April 2011
United States164 Posts
January 20 2012 02:58 GMT
#6445
I am so embarrassed to be an american on TL right now
"The spider comes."
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 03:00:12
January 20 2012 02:58 GMT
#6446
From The Economist, blue and orange post:


South Carolina is known for it's commitment to liberty?

Just as California is known for its flirtations with serfdom.



On January 20 2012 11:57 liberal wrote:
I wish we could stop relying on labels like "crazy" in this political system. If anyone has a serious disagreement with a politician, it needs to be articulated and endlessly articulated until either the people finally either accept it or reject it. If we resort to a battle of labels, we are no better than the politicians who themselves fight an endless war of placing or avoiding labels. A dumbed down or ad hominem political system will never be good for the pursuit of democracy or progress.

I direct you to any previous transcript of a 2011/2012 Republican debate featuring Iran as a subject. The crazy comes out hard.
unit
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States2621 Posts
January 20 2012 02:58 GMT
#6447
On January 20 2012 11:58 KgKris wrote:
I am so embarrassed to be an american on TL right now

as am i, hoping for ron paul though
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
January 20 2012 02:58 GMT
#6448
Gingrich with extremely harsh words on Obama, "the most dangerous president of our lifetime." It seems like all Gingrich is riding on at this point is attacking his running mates and Obama. I can't see Santorum ever getting the nomination, he'll probably be the next to drop out but it might be a while. Romney seems so far ahead of everyone overall, it's going to be hard for anyone to catch up. It seems most of Paul's supporters are younger people, and if they get out and vote he could definitely have a fighting chance against Romney if they make it to the final two.
xDaunt
Profile Joined March 2010
United States17988 Posts
January 20 2012 02:59 GMT
#6449
Great debate for Gingrich. This performance may win him South Carolina despite the ex-wife interview.

As for Romney, he needs to up his game and take the gloves off. He's too milquetoast, and it's preventing him from sealing the deal on the nomination.

Santorum is like a nasty chihuahua. He knows he's the little guy up there and tries too hard to overcompensate.

Paul was Paul. Fortunately for him, foreign policy issues did not really come up.
ticklishmusic
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
United States15977 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 03:01:55
January 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#6450
K, so I'd say Paul is the winner of this debate- he looked presidential, fended off the attacks well and managed to avoid saying anything really controversial. Gingrich is second because he was pretty witty, but the wife issue is going to hurt. Santorum got torn apart from all sides. But, Romney is covered in blood and the sharks can smell it. Everyone got a piece of him tonight.

Given that, looks like Romney is going to win SC, though with probably a weaker margin. Gingrich/ Paul are going to be close together for second/third (Paul second I hope), and Santorum is going to be last.
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FeUerFlieGe
Profile Joined April 2011
United States1193 Posts
January 20 2012 03:00 GMT
#6451
Paul and Gingrich are the only ones who can beat Obama and stand up to him in debates.
To unpathed waters, undreamed shores. - Shakespeare
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 03:01:41
January 20 2012 03:01 GMT
#6452
On January 20 2012 12:00 FeUerFlieGe wrote:
Paul and Gingrich are the only ones who can beat Obama and stand up to him in debates.


Paul and Gingrich can't stand up to Obama. Romney certainly can, but not in a debate. Probably in economy, which would be good enough to win if Europe keels over.
liberal
Profile Joined November 2011
1116 Posts
January 20 2012 03:01 GMT
#6453
On January 20 2012 12:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
K, so I'd say Paul is the winner of this debate- he looked presidential, fended off the attacks well and managed to avoid making anything really controversial. Gingrich is second because he was pretty witty, but the wife issue is going to hurt. Santorum got torn apart from all sides. But, Romney is covered in blood and the sharks can smell it. Everyone got a piece of him tonight.

Pretty good assessment, I agree with all the points here, although I only saw the latter half of the debate.
ArvickHero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
10387 Posts
January 20 2012 03:01 GMT
#6454
I would put Paul over Gingrich in a debate vs Obama, particularly because Paul isn't relying on exaggerated character attacks like everyone else
Writerptrk
{CC}StealthBlue
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States41117 Posts
January 20 2012 03:01 GMT
#6455
Okay report card time:

Newt Gingrich - B+ - Quick responses, especially with SC voters regarding the economy.

Ron Paul - A - Good answers as usual, brings up issues many Americans agree/concerned with.

Romney - D+ - Crashed and burned on the tax issue, dodged several questions by going to the repetitive attack Obama, Roman Empire theory of Military strength, then said he won't release last years tax returns because he doesn't want Obama to win. Then suggest increase Government by proposing National I.D. Cards.\

Santorum - C - What can you say about Santorum, he wasn't as bad as Romney.
"Smokey, this is not 'Nam, this is bowling. There are rules."
allecto
Profile Joined November 2010
328 Posts
January 20 2012 03:02 GMT
#6456
After that debate, I'm seriously confused how Romney has been the frontrunner for so long. Did he do something right sometime in the distant past or is it just more funding?
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
Last Edited: 2012-01-20 03:03:50
January 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#6457
On January 20 2012 12:02 allecto wrote:
After that debate, I'm seriously confused how Romney has been the frontrunner for so long. Did he do something right sometime in the distant past or is it just more funding?

He's so ambivalent about his position everyone can reluctantly stand for him. Especially since he's the only one who can beat Obama.

But few people actually like him.
Serpico
Profile Joined May 2010
4285 Posts
January 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#6458
Is Paul the only one who mentioned cutting military spending overseas?
Lavalamp799
Profile Joined March 2011
United States554 Posts
January 20 2012 03:03 GMT
#6459
On January 20 2012 12:00 ticklishmusic wrote:
K, so I'd say Paul is the winner of this debate- he looked presidential, fended off the attacks well and managed to avoid making anything really controversial. Gingrich is second because he was pretty witty, but the wife issue is going to hurt. Santorum got torn apart from all sides. But, Romney is covered in blood and the sharks can smell it. Everyone got a piece of him tonight.


I'd say Paul got the least out of this debate. The other three just seemed to discuss amongst themselves and almost ignore Paul for most of the debate. I think Gingrich "won" the debate, especially coming out firing at the start. Romney is always extremely well spoken and knows how to get the cheers, so I think it was a fairly positive debate for him as well. One thing I noticed about Romney tonight is how he said his one regret was he wished all the times he attacked Paul, Gingrich, or Santorum that he was attacking Obama instead. It's like he's speaking as if he already won the nomination, and is switching his focus on Obama now.
acker
Profile Joined September 2010
United States2958 Posts
January 20 2012 03:04 GMT
#6460
On January 20 2012 12:03 Serpico wrote:
Is Paul the only one who mentioned cutting military spending overseas?


Everyone else subscribes to Roman Empire Theory. Except Huntsman, who withdrew.
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